What we learned about the 2017 Z06 at the NCM Bash
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What we learned about the 2017 Z06 at the NCM Bash
During the Saturday afternoon repeat of the 2017 Corvette Overview Session with Harlan Charles and Kirk Bennion, I asked a few questions about the 2017 Z06. The following is a transcript of the Q&A with Harlan Charles.
Me: Are we expecting some changes for the 2017 Z06 and when will the order guide be available?
Harlan: 2017 Z06 production starts in September sometime and the order guide will probably come out in June. It will get the changes we've talked about, the new colors, interior things. The other thing it will get is the standard rocker as well.
Me: Any changes beyond that?
Harlan: That's all I have today. (Followed by a big grin and a couple of snickers).
I feel fairly confident we will see some performance upgrades, at a minimum to the cooling system. We will all find out in June.
Harlan: 2017 Z06 production starts in September sometime and the order guide will probably come out in June. It will get the changes we've talked about, the new colors, interior things. The other thing it will get is the standard rocker as well.
Me: Any changes beyond that?
Harlan: That's all I have today. (Followed by a big grin and a couple of snickers).
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05-01-2016, 02:26 PM
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LMAO at a 75-100 hp increase. When, ever in the last several generations has GM substantially increased the hp rating of an engine mid-cycle? The LS9, LS7, LS6...sure...the ZR-1 LT5 got a 30 hp bump back in '93. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say the regulations for fuel economy and emissions were nowhere near as stringent as they are in 2017.
75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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What, that's all they offered as far as the word on the Z06. I waited for that...some reveal that was. Guess they're still tweaking things. Tune in next month fans.
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Yes, that was it. The Grand Sport received all of the attention, but the non-disclosure on the 2017 Z06 was definitely intentional.
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Buggers lol. I came straight to the forums to see what the word was tonight. I cancelled my order this spring. I hear rumors of great things from insiders. So I gave up my allocation when it came up. I hope it was worth it. I might not see a car until spring of 2017 now : (
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Buggers lol. I came straight to the forums to see what the word was tonight. I cancelled my order this spring. I hear rumors of great things from insiders. So I gave up my allocation when it came up. I hope it was worth it. I might not see a car until spring of 2017 now : (
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First off thank you again jag for all your love and work with the corvettes.
My opinion, I honestly feel there will definitely be performance upgrades. One of my thoughts is because of the callaway and the Grand sport. Before the Grand sport entered the picture, some people were deciding between a callaway or Z51. For me I loved the aggressive Z06 look over the Z51 but now with the Grand sport you can have that aggressive Z06 look with the Grand Sport and Callaway package. No apparent heat soaked issues, instant acceleration, Z06 wide body look, full warranty and almost the same price tag as the Z06 with the Grand sport callaway package together . So GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more.
The part that confuses me and please help me out if I am wrong. For around $15,000 less you get a Grand Sport that has everything the Z06 has BESIDES the supercharger, larger hood and what else? So what will stop people from getting a Grand Sport and adding the Callaway package? So to me GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more. Would love to hear your thoughts on this? Thanks
My opinion, I honestly feel there will definitely be performance upgrades. One of my thoughts is because of the callaway and the Grand sport. Before the Grand sport entered the picture, some people were deciding between a callaway or Z51. For me I loved the aggressive Z06 look over the Z51 but now with the Grand sport you can have that aggressive Z06 look with the Grand Sport and Callaway package. No apparent heat soaked issues, instant acceleration, Z06 wide body look, full warranty and almost the same price tag as the Z06 with the Grand sport callaway package together . So GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more.
The part that confuses me and please help me out if I am wrong. For around $15,000 less you get a Grand Sport that has everything the Z06 has BESIDES the supercharger, larger hood and what else? So what will stop people from getting a Grand Sport and adding the Callaway package? So to me GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more. Would love to hear your thoughts on this? Thanks
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Some one correct me if I'm wrong but to go Callaway will cost you over 20g's.
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First off thank you again jag for all your love and work with the corvettes.
My opinion, I honestly feel there will definitely be performance upgrades. One of my thoughts is because of the callaway and the Grand sport. Before the Grand sport entered the picture, some people were deciding between a callaway or Z51. For me I loved the aggressive Z06 look over the Z51 but now with the Grand sport you can have that aggressive Z06 look with the Grand Sport and Callaway package. No apparent heat soaked issues, instant acceleration, Z06 wide body look, full warranty and almost the same price tag as the Z06 with the Grand sport callaway package together . So GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more.
The part that confuses me and please help me out if I am wrong. For around $15,000 less you get a Grand Sport that has everything the Z06 has BESIDES the supercharger, larger hood and what else? So what will stop people from getting a Grand Sport and adding the Callaway package? So to me GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more. Would love to hear your thoughts on this? Thanks
My opinion, I honestly feel there will definitely be performance upgrades. One of my thoughts is because of the callaway and the Grand sport. Before the Grand sport entered the picture, some people were deciding between a callaway or Z51. For me I loved the aggressive Z06 look over the Z51 but now with the Grand sport you can have that aggressive Z06 look with the Grand Sport and Callaway package. No apparent heat soaked issues, instant acceleration, Z06 wide body look, full warranty and almost the same price tag as the Z06 with the Grand sport callaway package together . So GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more.
The part that confuses me and please help me out if I am wrong. For around $15,000 less you get a Grand Sport that has everything the Z06 has BESIDES the supercharger, larger hood and what else? So what will stop people from getting a Grand Sport and adding the Callaway package? So to me GM has to do something to make the Z06 stand out more. Would love to hear your thoughts on this? Thanks
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Thanks for the update...
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Obvious the focus this year is on the GS and my guess is the ink hasn't dried yet on what if any changes are in store for the Z06. For 2017 the GS is going to be the money maker for GM, it's a Stingray offered in a Z06 body so very little R&D money to roll this out and a big savings over the Z06. Technically nothing major for any of the cars, it appears to be a lot more makeup and lipstick to make it more customizable. I predict GS sales will exceed Stingray sales for '17 and less than 10,000 Z06's built.
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Well, the Z06 is only 8.8% shy of the Hellcat's hero number of 707, I wonder if GM has any interest in holding that title, and if so, if the 1.7L is capable of it? I doubt they'll chase that, but you never know...
It's hard to believe they'd go to a rotor change or something similar in only 2 years, but we used to run on 2 year design cycles for entire car lines, so a blower rotor change is hardly unimaginable.
Not that the car needs more horsepower as a first change, but it's a marketing year over year thing. Easy to print and explain.
It's hard to believe they'd go to a rotor change or something similar in only 2 years, but we used to run on 2 year design cycles for entire car lines, so a blower rotor change is hardly unimaginable.
Not that the car needs more horsepower as a first change, but it's a marketing year over year thing. Easy to print and explain.
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Buggers lol. I came straight to the forums to see what the word was tonight. I cancelled my order this spring. I hear rumors of great things from insiders. So I gave up my allocation when it came up. I hope it was worth it. I might not see a car until spring of 2017 now : (
I was at a show last weekend where the dealer was offering all in stock Z06s models at invoice pricing. This is smart business as they need to reduce existing inventory before we get too excited over the 2017.
I'm not expecting so much an HP increase as I am perhaps the integration of the A10 transmission and other cooling elements applied to the Camaro ZL1.
As to the Grand Sport, I think the wide body components look nice, however some of the color combinations, stripe packages, etc. on display really look a little over-the-top and IMO ruin the great lines of the C7. I know it's an individual taste and preference thing, however it seems like GM ran out of ideas on how to differentiate the GS beyond the wide body panels so they threw in a lot of decals and color combos.
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- Some that care about performance only, regardless of badging.
- Others that want the look and bragging rights of the Z06 name.
- and those that want both!
The new Grand Sport is certainly gorgeous (especially in Admiral Blue and Watkins Glen), but I suspect few are going to go at or below invoice (to start) and the true net result between a Z06 and a Grand Sport will be debatable when you consider the added power w/ warranty and Z06 name status.
- Others that want the look and bragging rights of the Z06 name.
- and those that want both!
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I think it will definitely get a bump in power. The LT4 is now in the CTS-V and the upcoming Camaro ZL1 making only 10 fewer HP. I dont think that sits well with current owners. We will probably see a hair over 700hp. It could also just be a "performance pack" where it will be an option to bump power. Sort of like Mercedes AMG where they offer an AMG and an AMG S. I'm hoping to see a light weight version.
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During the Saturday afternoon repeat of the 2017 Corvette Overview Session with Harlan Charles and Kirk Bennion, I asked a few questions about the 2017 Z06. The following is a transcript of the Q&A with Harlan Charles.
Me: Are we expecting some changes for the 2017 Z06 and when will the order guide be available?
Harlan: 2017 Z06 production starts in September sometime and the order guide will probably come out in June. It will get the changes we've talked about, the new colors, interior things. The other thing it will get is the standard rocker as well.
Me: Any changes beyond that?
Harlan: That's all I have today. (Followed by a big grin and a couple of snickers).
I feel fairly confident we will see some performance upgrades, at a minimum to the cooling system. We will all find out in June. Harlan: 2017 Z06 production starts in September sometime and the order guide will probably come out in June. It will get the changes we've talked about, the new colors, interior things. The other thing it will get is the standard rocker as well.
Me: Any changes beyond that?
Harlan: That's all I have today. (Followed by a big grin and a couple of snickers).
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Actually, the cost is $17,995, plus any other options one might select. Thanks.
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Is the $17,995 taxable?
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LMAO at a 75-100 hp increase. When, ever in the last several generations has GM substantially increased the hp rating of an engine mid-cycle? The LS9, LS7, LS6...sure...the ZR-1 LT5 got a 30 hp bump back in '93. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say the regulations for fuel economy and emissions were nowhere near as stringent as they are in 2017.
75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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LMAO at a 75-100 hp increase. When, ever in the last several generations has GM substantially increased the hp rating of an engine mid-cycle? The LS9, LS7, LS6...sure...the ZR-1 LT5 got a 30 hp bump back in '93. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say the regulations for fuel economy and emissions were nowhere near as stringent as they are in 2017.
75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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75 - 100 horsepower bump is a pipe dream.
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