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Old 05-01-2016, 07:32 PM
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I would be very surprised at any power increase personally.

The car can barely be driven as is on the street. Much better places to spend money, namely cooling, tranny, etc.

Said differently, who is the marginal buyer that they get over the finish line with a power bump? Someone who wasn't quite ready to buy with only 650hp?

Are they really going to try and top HP in a hellcat when they could have done that in the beginning? The Hellcat has been out for years now. And the goal of the platform is obnoxious crazy blue collar power with bragging rights. GM is smart enough not to engage in a HP battle with a competitor who will immediately one-up them.

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Originally Posted by Snorman
They are option code J57 and the cost is $7495. While some may argue that is only $500 less than the Z07 package, the Z07 package requires CFV ($3995) or CFZ ($2995).
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:06 PM
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I seriously doubt they will bump the HP at all as that will shorten the life of the blower as it is already spinning like crazy now.

But it would be nice if they put a 2.3L on it which should have been done from the start. I think a lot of people would jump on that especially if it was a option to do it. I know I would have no problems forking over another 4k to get that option.
Old 05-01-2016, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Redc7z06
Yes the price was announced the Z06 for '17 goes up $50.
If this is accurate, then the value actually went down as side shirts are now standard. They certainly cost more than $50.

Not saying that this information was not reported, but it makes no sense.

While I don't expect any earth shattering changes to the '17 Z06, it seems that information was intentionally withheld at the Bash to better shine the spotlight on the GS.

I would suspect the availability of more detailed information in the coming months, and a correction to the reported $50 increase.

"If" it's still $50, then there is no need to further speculate on any notable changes for '17; unless they're adding an additional performance/cooling option, or some other package with a different price tag.
Old 05-01-2016, 10:44 PM
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They should have jacked up the ZO6 price for 2017 that would have helped move some 2016s. Like the previous post if there adding side skirts and only raising the price $50 doesn't make sense that they are going to change much for 2017.
Old 05-01-2016, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 427bob
2017 Z06...
10 spd auto for sure.
I think they're still gathering performance numbers to sell you the fact that is will accelerate faster than the current Z06.
Surprise would be 700 hp or maybe even 725. And, of course, a price increase.
I've been thinking about it and would be surprised. Maybe they'll bump the manual's horsepower because if the A10 is really any faster (and they actually use it in the Z06 this coming year) it is really gonna put a gap in performance between itself and the M7
Old 05-02-2016, 12:12 AM
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They only power bump the corvette is going to get is a higher end car than the Z06 , and that is when all you guys who care about ring times will get what you have been waiting for, but it won't be In a C7Z06
Old 05-02-2016, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
For those who track the car, a 10-speed will be very difficult to manage on-track unless the car is left to shift for itself (and even then, I'm not sure how it's going to work). Short, very hard braking zones where the car now has to drop 2-3 gears are going to be so compressed that I can't see how it's going to drop 3-4 gears, or worse, at a track like Daytona where you'll go from 170-175 mph down to 55-60 mph for turn 1, maybe 5 gears.
That's a lot of gear changes to manage.
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I agree with this is the A10 a better track tranny or just for better MPG. There won't be a HP increase for 17 on the Z.
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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
They only power bump the corvette is going to get is a higher end car than the Z06 , and that is when all you guys who care about ring times will get what you have been waiting for, but it won't be In a C7Z06
I have to agree.
The Z has more than enough power for the street IMO...and I keep thinking about the nearly mythical "Zora."

I believe the Stingray may see something.
At least rom a marketing POV, the 6.2L NA should be bumped up to 500hp.
Many smaller NAs in the marketplace can deliver that number.
Gotta wonder when we will see a small turbo for the entry car.
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I would welcome any HP bump, however I doubt we will see it on the Z06. However, any type of stealth or non-option improvements such as better cooling and the A10 transmission that would hopefully delete the $1300 gas guzzler tax could line up with the $50 price increase already reported for 2017. Hopefully reports like this ring true as it does make sense that the Z06 would be second in line for the new A10.

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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
We will all find out in June
Finding out more in June is an almost certainty. Likely via both GM and the press.
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Old 05-02-2016, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by STStingray
If this is accurate, then the value actually went down as side shirts are now standard. They certainly cost more than $50.

Not saying that this information was not reported, but it makes no sense.

While I don't expect any earth shattering changes to the '17 Z06, it seems that information was intentionally withheld at the Bash to better shine the spotlight on the GS.

I would suspect the availability of more detailed information in the coming months, and a correction to the reported $50 increase.

"If" it's still $50, then there is no need to further speculate on any notable changes for '17; unless they're adding an additional performance/cooling option, or some other package with a different price tag.

Here's the price book.
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Originally Posted by jvp
Finding out more in June is an almost certainty. Likely via both GM and the press.
so there is more to find out ??
Old 05-02-2016, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jvp
Finding out more in June is an almost certainty. Likely via both GM and the press.
Coming from you, this speaks volumes. I take it to mean there's a big enough change coming for the mags to take notice.
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I don't think there will be changes to the Z06, I think they may offer a stripper version track pack Z to go along with it. Similar to viper TA or ACR.
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Originally Posted by STStingray
If this is accurate, then the value actually went down as side shirts are now standard. They certainly cost more than $50.

Not saying that this information was not reported, but it makes no sense.

While I don't expect any earth shattering changes to the '17 Z06, it seems that information was intentionally withheld at the Bash to better shine the spotlight on the GS.

I would suspect the availability of more detailed information in the coming months, and a correction to the reported $50 increase.

"If" it's still $50, then there is no need to further speculate on any notable changes for '17; unless they're adding an additional performance/cooling option, or some other package with a different price tag.
I think the new "Stage I" side skirts will be the same as the ones on the Grand Sport. They are different and shorter than the current Stage II/Stage III Carbon Flash/Carbon Fiber-finish skirts that are available.

Personally, I don't like the shorter ones I've seen on the Grand Sport and prefer the existing Z06 Stage II/III skirts.

If all GS and Z06 models have some type of skirt, it probably reduces cost overall in terms of production.
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My guess is there will be a blower revision and secondary radiator to keep the GM Hellpig from overheating on track. Then some other sticker/color/badge engineering that GM has become so fond of lately.

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Old 05-02-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TRANS DAMM
I think they may offer a stripper version track pack Z to go along with it. Similar to viper TA or ACR.
With the negative press and Vette track guy's comments in comparing the Z to the ACR, I can see Chevy offering an optional Big A$$ rear wing similar to the Dodge...assuming the cost of adapting the wing from the current race car is somewhat negligible.



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Old 05-02-2016, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
With the negative press and Vette track guy's comments in comparing the Z to the ACR, I can see Chevy offering an optional Big A$$ rear wing similar to the Dodge...assuming the cost of adapting the wing from the current race car is somewhat negligible.


GM has the technology and ability to add a Big A$$ rear wing. Heck, they could do most of the work using CFD to determine front splitter, canard and rear air foil impacts on the car.

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But GM must realize that they really won't sell enough of the cars to make it worthwhile. They could put a car out that would run right next to the ACR, but would people buy it? And if so, at what cost?
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
With the negative press and Vette track guy's comments in comparing the Z to the ACR, I can see Chevy offering an optional Big A$$ rear wing similar to the Dodge...assuming the cost of adapting the wing from the current race car is somewhat negligible.
Not going to happen. It was mentioned early on when the Z06 came out that they considered a true chassis-mounted wing for the stage 3 package. However, it requires too much modification to the chassis/hatch/bumper to do it correctly. Just screwing it to the trunk lid is not sufficient.


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