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Old 05-01-2016, 03:53 PM
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I know many have been waiting for some time (me too), but I finally had the time and decent weather (70deg and 1200DA) to get to No Problem for a couple passes.... My car is an a8

1st pass spun bad, I think in part because I was behind some waxer who thought it was cool to roll thru the water box with his fat front tires and then do a rolling burnout. Result was 10.99@129mph

2nd pass 90min later was a dead hook, 1.58 60' 10.61@130.6mph

3rd pass an hour later....1.56 60' 10.61@130.37


Another 757 a8 put 600.4/637tq to the rollers on a dynojet 2 days after I was at the track. Now we know
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How does 600rwhp equate to a 757hp package? Also don't stock z06 trap around 125mph?? That's an extra 5mph for 20K ?? Something seems way off or WAY overpriced. And I don't care about the warranty nonsense. The Callaway package is so much more expensive than any other tuners blower kit that you are essentially already paying for a motor replacement just in case. I bet many are tuned very safe and rarely does that warranty come into play.

Example if ECS charges 10k for their supercharger kit and headers installed and tuned and said to me do you want to pay us 20k and we will give you a warranty also incase your motor blows? I would say no and I think most would rather just pay for the replacement motor IF it's ever needed not just pay regardless for a "warranty" that's just me though.
A Callaway is smog legal in 50 states with a warranty. Because of their reputation, a Callaway sold on the secondary market would be able to recoup at least half of the 17.5K spent for the conversion if not more. If one would have another shop mod the car with a supercharger kit, headers and a tune, you would have a car that is not smog legal, not warrantied and probably worth less on if sold that a non modded car. If I wanted a modded car, I would rather buy a stock setup and mod it myself or pay to have it modded rather than buy someone elses mess with no warranty and not street legal. (A lot of people will dump a modded car that is not running right or has been hurt). You have to think about the back end of spending extra for a Callaway.
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John,

That definitely seems like a low trap. My Callaway at the Texas Mile ran 130 traps on street tires (non cups), on dusty concrete with an M7 transmission, so it didn't have the benefit of the A8 in the quarter.
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Originally Posted by JHEBERT
I know many have been waiting for some time (me too), but I finally had the time and decent weather (70deg and 1200DA) to get to No Problem for a couple passes.... My car is an a8

1st pass spun bad, I think in part because I was behind some waxer who thought it was cool to roll thru the water box with his fat front tires and then do a rolling burnout. Result was 10.99@129mph

2nd pass 90min later was a dead hook, 1.58 60' 10.61@130.6mph

3rd pass an hour later....1.56 60' 10.61@130.37


Another 757 a8 put 600.4/637tq to the rollers on a dynojet 2 days after I was at the track. Now we know
Nice runs. What was your 1/8 mph? Were your runs on Cups or Drag Radials?
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Originally Posted by JHEBERT
I know many have been waiting for some time (me too), but I finally had the time and decent weather (70deg and 1200DA) to get to No Problem for a couple passes.... My car is an a8

1st pass spun bad, I think in part because I was behind some waxer who thought it was cool to roll thru the water box with his fat front tires and then do a rolling burnout. Result was 10.99@129mph

2nd pass 90min later was a dead hook, 1.58 60' 10.61@130.6mph

3rd pass an hour later....1.56 60' 10.61@130.37


Another 757 a8 put 600.4/637tq to the rollers on a dynojet 2 days after I was at the track. Now we know

Interesting that an A8 with ARH headers and Halltech tuned made 603/621 on a mustang dyno.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...iscussion-170/

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How does 600rwhp equate to a 757hp package? Also don't stock z06 trap around 125mph?? That's an extra 5mph for 20K ?? Something seems way off or WAY overpriced. And I don't care about the warranty nonsense. The Callaway package is so much more expensive than any other tuners blower kit that you are essentially already paying for a motor replacement just in case. I bet many are tuned very safe and rarely does that warranty come into play.

Example if ECS charges 10k for their supercharger kit and headers installed and tuned and said to me do you want to pay us 20k and we will give you a warranty also incase your motor blows? I would say no and I think most would rather just pay for the replacement motor IF it's ever needed not just pay regardless for a "warranty" that's just me though.

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Originally Posted by thegame
How does 600rwhp equate to a 757hp package? Also don't stock z06 trap around 125mph?? That's an extra 5mph for 20K ?? Something seems way off or WAY overpriced. And I don't care about the warranty nonsense. The Callaway package is so much more expensive than any other tuners blower kit that you are essentially already paying for a motor replacement just in case. I bet many are tuned very safe and rarely does that warranty come into play.
The car does about 535 stock with the A8.
To be fair the trap speed is at 1200 ft.
The Callaway intake looks like a Halltech that's at least 30 rwhp with no tune.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The car does about 535 stock with the A8.
Right so something seems off about those Callaway numbers. I would have expected at least a 650rwhp car.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The car does about 535 stock with the A8.
my Z06 ZO7 A8 Dynod at 540. added pulley and CAI, with the tune it Dynod at 617. it only cost me 2000$. I can post the Dyno sheets if you like.
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This car is amazing fast. Several factors to look at............DA1200 not idea for personal best, track preparation ?, first time out at drag strip? 5 mph trap speed is a lot through the 1/4 and the car keeps pulling. I would not base everything on just one car. The average Z06 drivers can't perform these number.
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I didn't notice the altitude. True
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The car is wearing race tech 19" all the way around with nitto nt05's in the rear....I expected more but was told that this is close to the test results that Callaway got. So....I'm done jacking around with these fools and I'm pulling the supercharger off again....along with the heads. I'll make it right

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The car does about 535 stock with the A8.
To be fair the trap speed is at 1200 ft.
The Callaway intake looks like a Halltech that's at least 30 rwhp with no tune.
To be fair(and accurate), the trap speed is the average speed over a 66 foot distance with the first set of lights at 1254 feet and the second set of lights at 1320 feet.

Also the A8 has around a 15% driveline loss which would equate to ~550 rwhp and the M7 has around a 12% driveline loss which would equate to ~570 rwhp.

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Originally Posted by thegame
How does 600rwhp equate to a 757hp package? Also don't stock z06 trap around 125mph?? That's an extra 5mph for 20K ?? Something seems way off or WAY overpriced. And I don't care about the warranty nonsense. The Callaway package is so much more expensive than any other tuners blower kit that you are essentially already paying for a motor replacement just in case. I bet many are tuned very safe and rarely does that warranty come into play.

Example if ECS charges 10k for their supercharger kit and headers installed and tuned and said to me do you want to pay us 20k and we will give you a warranty also incase your motor blows? I would say no and I think most would rather just pay for the replacement motor IF it's ever needed not just pay regardless for a "warranty" that's just me though.
A Callaway is smog legal in 50 states with a warranty. Because of their reputation, a Callaway sold on the secondary market would be able to recoup at least half of the 17.5K spent for the conversion if not more. If one would have another shop mod the car with a supercharger kit, headers and a tune, you would have a car that is not smog legal, not warrantied and probably worth less on if sold that a non modded car. If I wanted a modded car, I would rather buy a stock setup and mod it myself or pay to have it modded rather than buy someone elses mess with no warranty and not street legal. (A lot of people will dump a modded car that is not running right or has been hurt). You have to think about the back end of spending extra for a Callaway.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
A Callaway is smog legal in 50 states with a warranty. Because of their reputation, a Callaway sold on the secondary market would be able to recoup at least half of the 17.5K spent for the conversion if not more. If one would have another shop mod the car with a supercharger kit, headers and a tune, you would have a car that is not smog legal, not warrantied and probably worth less on if sold that a non modded car. If I wanted a modded car, I would rather buy a stock setup and mod it myself or pay to have it modded rather than buy someone elses mess with no warranty and not street legal. (A lot of people will dump a modded car that is not running right or has been hurt). You have to think about the back end of spending extra for a Callaway.
I'm not dissing Callaway I actually like the 2.3 and the hole in the hood but I stand by my statement thinking it's overpriced. You can get a A&A kit that's smog legal and has carb approval and much cheaper and better performance than the Callaway car.

As far as resale value I have seen Callaway cars in the C6 section selling pretty low so it's not completely a gaurentee.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
A Callaway is smog legal in 50 states with a warranty. Because of their reputation, a Callaway sold on the secondary market would be able to recoup at least half of the 17.5K spent for the conversion if not more. If one would have another shop mod the car with a supercharger kit, headers and a tune, you would have a car that is not smog legal, not warrantied and probably worth less on if sold that a non modded car. If I wanted a modded car, I would rather buy a stock setup and mod it myself or pay to have it modded rather than buy someone elses mess with no warranty and not street legal. (A lot of people will dump a modded car that is not running right or has been hurt). You have to think about the back end of spending extra for a Callaway.
A&A kit is smog legal now! Just saying!

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I'm not dissing Callaway I actually like the 2.3 and the hole in the hood but I stand by my statement thinking it's overpriced. You can get a A&A kit that's smog legal and has carb approval and much cheaper and better performance than the Callaway car.

As far as resale value I have seen Callaway cars in the C6 section selling pretty low so it's not completely a gaurentee.
You mean a just a standard kit and no meth or fuel upgrades on a C7?

Not really you land at maybe 570 rwhp and short of a Callaway car even short of a stock Z. But you are much cheaper.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
You mean a just a standard kit and no meth or fuel upgrades on a C7?

Not really you land at maybe 570 rwhp and short of a Callaway car even short of a stock Z. But you are much cheaper.
First I doubt a stingray Callaway makes 570 to the tire with no meth and 7lbs pully that comes stock.. Secondly I've seen tons of dyno sheets. I've owed and ridden in tons of cars and my experience has been if the cars have same or similar hp numbers the Centri car always pulls up top. If a Callaway stingray made 550 whp and raced an A&A/procharger/ECS car with same power my money is on the Centri car every single time. I'm sure many would disagree being the section I am in but I've had way too much life experiences verifying this for me to believe otherwise.

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Originally Posted by thegame
First I doubt a stingray Callaway makes 570 to the tire with no meth and 7lbs pully that comes stock.. Secondly I've seen tons of dyno sheets. I've owed and ridden in tons of cars and my experience has been if the cars have same or similar hp numbers the Centri car always pulls up top. If a Callaway stingray made 550 whp and raced an A&A/procharger/ECS car with same power my money is on the Centri car every single time. I'm sure many would disagree being the section I am in but I've had way too much life experiences verifying this for me to believe otherwise.
At the track about a year and a half ago, we were quicker and faster than a Stingray as you describe. It claimed more RWHP or some other extrapolated figure. But since we weren't bench racing, on that day, our SC627 won. And was 50-State emissions compliant, unlike the other one w/ long tubes, etc.

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At the track about a year and a half ago, we were quicker and faster than a Stingray as you describe. It claimed more RWHP or some other extrapolated figure. But since we weren't bench racing, on that day, our SC627 won. And was 50-State emissions compliant, unlike the other one w/ long tubes, etc.
It claimed lol ok case closed ! This year in nj we did a run for veterans. There was a Callaway stingray that you guys just did an m7 and a friend procharger on 8lbs. They raced many times that day and I was shotgun in both cars. The Centri car won everytime. Chris obviously your going to defend your product as you should but I am talking all my own personal experiences. Nothing against Callaway I'm sure all owners love their cars and the peace of mind.

Now off to catch second half of playoffs! Goodnight all

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I spent 4,000$ and made 650whp at Horsepower Addicts in jersey
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It claimed lol ok case closed ! This year in nj we did a run for veterans. There was a Callaway stingray that you guys just did an m7 and a friend procharger on 8lbs. They raced many times that day and I was shotgun in both cars. The Centri car won everytime. Chris obviously your going to defend your product as you should but I am talking all my own personal experiences. Nothing against Callaway I'm sure all owners love their cars and the peace of mind.

Now off to catch second half of playoffs! Goodnight all
Sounds like on that day, and whatever the configuration, the results differed from our day at the track. Enjoy


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