0NORCAL-SS

Local dealer said gm has sent memo out and informed service depts if any of the cars has a catch can and engine failure warranty is denied.

Guys make sure to keep your oem lines handy so you can swap back to stock

Read this
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451361

DLC7

BAM!

Saw that coming from a mile away. ......call me a sage

How many blown engines have you heard of Tony?

lgodom

I read the owner's dissertation and he's defiantly up $htie creek without a paddle or a raft. Al Oppenheiser said if someone adds a cold air and breaks a half shaft GM won't cover it. It's an ignorant shame that the brand manager said the catch can could cause oil starvation.

SMFCPACFP

Very poor and foolish advice from a vendor

If GM ask the car owner with the engine failure, if he had modified the car, and he says "no" after switching back to the oem lines, he has committed a crime - fraud, possible jail time. Is this the kind of advice to give?

If the catch can causes the engine to fail, maybe using one seems foolish.

Oskee

[QUOTE=NORCAL-SS;1592238078]Local dealer said gm has sent memo out and informed service depts if any of the cars has a catch can and engine failure warranty is denied.

Guys make sure to keep your oem lines handy so you can swap back to stock



Remember here in California anything from headers to cold air intake to a catch can must have a CARB number ( Calif Air Resources Board ) other wise it is illegal . Yes I was also told this by more than one dealer that it will void your warranty and you can also fail a smog inspection (visual) Thats why its good to keep your OEM parts so you can switch back when you need warranty work done .

ncrowe

Catch cans don't cause engines to fail - just like a CAI doesn't break axles

I dont run the catch can - even though I have one - it's not on the car. I do run Meth - which cleans the top end every time I pedal the car

Hirohawa

[QUOTE=Oskee;1592238223]I Was told the same thing by a prominent SoCal Chevy dealership. He said Cold Air intake would void my warranty.

SMFCPACFP

I hope this doesn't make you feel too bad, but your opinion as to whether catch cans do, or don't make engine fail is totally irrelevant.

The only opinion that counts is GM's and the jury, if you decide to take GM to court.

Opinions expressed on this forum are generally worth what you paid for them.

spearfish25

It's a good example of the risks one takes modifying anything on the car. One can quote the MM warranty law all they want. But you still look directly up the slopes of Everest if GM is going to deny your claim.

AORoads

Commit fraud by switching back to stock? And that's good advice?

jklein7

When making any mods if there is a problem GM will have the final say so.
In reading this tale it is a shame however the lesson is don't make changes unless you are prepared to face the consequences. I was thinking of CAI and pulley and such but not now. What a shame.

dale fehrenbach

Sorry guys,
What is a catch can
I am stock and will stay that way but want to know

ChevyChad

A catch can separates the oil from the PCV line so that it does not enter the intake manifold. There is no way this could have caused the failure. Pure BS for GM to claim that this is the culprit in this scenario. I'd be pissed!

0NORCAL-SS

Well mine blew up and it was stock and gm took care of me very well.

To date I've sold well over 150 afe/halltech intakes not one blown motor. Sold many pullies not one blown motor.

Do I think a catch can will do this???..... no and neither do the techs at the dealer but GM is on warranty claims hard and in this case I think a little to hard.

Snorman

I am puzzled that people think they should retain the right to modify a system or aspect of the car to affect the function or performance and still maintain a full factory warranty.
S.

jim2527

GM part number 12653073 is a catch can for Camaros and does NOT void the Camaro Warranty.

Do you think they'll come out with one for the 'vette?

jdmdohcpower

Tony,
don't mind these clowns. Thanks for the GREAT advise!

AllFlash

If there is a GM guy here...would love clarification if this is not correct. It came from GM to our business in preparation of an article. It came through a dealer, via District Rep and from higher as it took some time to answer a set of questions.

The process of GM blocking warranties is very simple and includes no causation whatsoever. If GM determines that you have performance enhanced your vehicle in any way, shape or form, they put a block on your engine and power train. That block simply states that the block has been put in place as a result of 'performance enhancements'. It does not go into detail whatsoever about specifics. This block means that, even if the engine goes in a totally unrelated manner to the enhancements, the block is still there and the engine won't be repaired under warranty. I would bet that somewhere there is a printed policy related to when warranty blocking occurs, this including performance enhancements.

Now, should your engine have a catastrophic failure, the control module is sent to GM where information is contained that cannot be retrieved at the dealer level. This information provides tuning related info if it was tuned, and also makes it evident to them if the module was reset or replaced.

Now.... The dealer level is not very accurate as, my dealer tells me that you can switch off CAI or anything from the header down...as long as no tuning is affected. The question then came up whether the engines readjustments as a result of the CAI were recorded to which no answer was provided. Other dealers say that CAI voids warranty as seen in this thread.

Would love to hear valuable, accurate and knowledgeable return on this... There are just so many variations thrown about.

09Z06pj

Kinda hard to disagree with this statement. It's just much simpler to leave it the way it is if you want full warranty. A lot less to worry about.

OnPoint

This.