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Old 06-13-2016, 10:13 AM
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Hey Guys,

So my SC2’s are at the end of their life. Chords aren’t showing, but at 15k miles, they’re cooked.

I was thinking of going to the conti’s but found a couple people saying they didn’t get much life out of them. (About the same as the SC2’s). Does anyone have any experience with the life expectancy of these tires?

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Why not PSS? Other than 60% more expensive than Continental, they are much more gripper. If your Cup 2 lasted 15k miles, I'm sure you can push the PSS another 8k miles. 15k miles on Cup 2 has gotta be a record. Most got 1/2 that.
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Don't know about the wear of the Contis, but one thing I noticed is that the actual tread width on them is much narrower than either of the michelins even though they are considered the same size.
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Originally Posted by RandomTask
Hey Guys,

So my SC2’s are at the end of their life. Chords aren’t showing, but at 15k miles, they’re cooked.

I was thinking of going to the conti’s but found a couple people saying they didn’t get much life out of them. (About the same as the SC2’s). Does anyone have any experience with the life expectancy of these tires?

Thanks!
Joe
I have 15K on my Continentals and they look to have slightly more than 50% wear left. I do a lot of highway driving and got 25K out of the original Michelins (non-Z07). I know for a fact the Continentals will last longer than the Michelins. They don't have quite as much grip but they are slightly better in cold weather and rain. They are an excellent option for those looking to save a few dollars and relatively quite. They do however look a little smaller in height and this look takes some getting use to. I would recommend them.
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I have a set of Conti's and PSS's. I can tell you that the grip stinks with the Conti's and I do not like the tire at all.
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Originally Posted by mjpcowboy
I have a set of Conti's and PSS's. I can tell you that the grip stinks with the Conti's and I do not like the tire at all.
That sums it up. For stock wheel, PSS for street and PSC2 for track. The end
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and the conti's are not as wide... personally i think they look horrible. Mich's are square and the conti's are rounded, very rounded.

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I have Contis on 3 cars -- my Z06, my Ferrari 550, and my CTS-V. In general, they last about 20,000 - 22,000 miles, are incredibly compliant, handling is excellent (unless you're Mario Andretti), wet weather traction is superb, you have no cold weather worries, and they are less expensive. Of course, if you drive in a spirited fashion all the time, stick with the SS or Cup. My SS are now my track tires.
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Originally Posted by fpfaeth
I have Contis on 3 cars -- my Z06, my Ferrari 550, and my CTS-V. In general, they last about 20,000 - 22,000 miles, are incredibly compliant, handling is excellent (unless you're Mario Andretti), wet weather traction is superb, you have no cold weather worries, and they are less expensive. Of course, if you drive in a spirited fashion all the time, stick with the SS or Cup. My SS are now my track tires.
Yeah, i was gonna do the Conti's on the stock wheels and get a set of 18"s to mount some track day scrubs onto them.

I would like to see what the conti's look like mounted on the stock wheels since everyone is mentioning how short they are :P
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Originally Posted by fpfaeth
I have Contis on 3 cars -- my Z06, my Ferrari 550, and my CTS-V. In general, they last about 20,000 - 22,000 miles, are incredibly compliant, handling is excellent (unless you're Mario Andretti), wet weather traction is superb, you have no cold weather worries, and they are less expensive. Of course, if you drive in a spirited fashion all the time, stick with the SS or Cup. My SS are now my track tires.
Yep, agree completely. They are certainly a great choice if you're looking for an 8/10ths handling tire that is much quieter and less punishing than the run flat Michelins. The Contis, being less sticky, also don't fling as much road crap. My experience with several different types of Contis is about 25K+ miles before they are done.

Appearance? Well, uh, um, they look sorta kinda round to me, including the sidewalls. I suppose there's a difference between run flats with rigid sidewalls or inner load bearing support structures and non run flat tires that rely solely on air pressure to support a car. Do they curve more at the sidewalls than the run flat Michelins and therefore seem narrower? I suppose they do but I can live with that considering the other qualities they offer.

Yes, the Michelin PSS and SC2s are the 9 and 10/10ths track tires.

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I have the contis. I got them because SS were not available when I needed tires. I have two track days on super sports. And 4 full days and a few random laps here and there on the contis. They are not nearly as grippy. But, I am very pleased with them on the road. They have plenty of grip for anything reasonable on the street. They are quieter and more comfortable. They are still plenty capable for the track if you are not trying to set lap records. If you are just having fun they are great. Very predictable with minimal tire wear. Even when you are pushing them pretty hard.

They have better wet traction also. Which is important for me. More so honestly than 1/10th or so of a G. Due to the fact that I drive my car on roads a lot.

The tires do look different. But you get used to it quickly.

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Hmm, not helping guys hahaha. (opinions are really opposed)

Tire rack has the conti's for $1100 and the PS's for $1850. In the specs, it does show that the Conti's are 1.2" narrower in tread than the PS's (!!!).

So are the PS's really worth the extra $750? Again, these tires would be for street (occasional spirited driving).

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Originally Posted by RandomTask
Hmm, not helping guys hahaha. (opinions are really opposed)

Tire rack has the conti's for $1100 and the PS's for $1850. In the specs, it does show that the Conti's are 1.2" narrower in tread than the PS's (!!!).

So are the PS's really worth the extra $750? Again, these tires would be for street (occasional spirited driving).
I was in the same boat as you. On the verge of ordering the Contis, but then ended up getting the PSS. What changed my mind was the narrow footprint, the chance that I was going to use them at the track, and a guy on here had some new PSS (not take offs) for sale that brought the price difference down to the $400-$500 range. If you really have no plans of using them at the track, I am sure they will be fine for the street as long as you don't mind the look.
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Default I like Conti's

I have had Continental Extreme Contact DW's on an C6 and was very impressed. I did not track the car so I can't comment on that. The wear rating was in the low to mid 300's which means under normal driving they might get 25K - 30K miles. When My OEM's wear out, I will look at them as a replacement.
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Originally Posted by RandomTask
Hmm, not helping guys hahaha. (opinions are really opposed)

Tire rack has the conti's for $1100 and the PS's for $1850. In the specs, it does show that the Conti's are 1.2" narrower in tread than the PS's (!!!).

So are the PS's really worth the extra $750? Again, these tires would be for street (occasional spirited driving).
Before you buy at Tire Rack like I did. Go to America Tire or Discount Tire, they will match the price and mount/balance for an add'l $60.00. If you carry them in, it is $180.00 to mount/bal. Talk to the installer, seems most are able to mount without issue.
I have 6000 miles on my Conti's, 1/2 gone. I got 10k out my corded MPSS. Conti's are comparable to MPSS but way better in rain.
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Originally Posted by mjpcowboy
I have a set of Conti's and PSS's. I can tell you that the grip stinks with the Conti's and I do not like the tire at all.
Originally Posted by jdmdohcpower
That sums it up. For stock wheel, PSS for street and PSC2 for track. The end
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The Z06 comes with the PSS Michelin which we know are runflats.

Michelin makes the SS non run flat.

According to Michelin and the reviews this is the best tire.

Problem is they don't make then in 335 only 325 that shows slightly
wider thread.
Then the front they have 275's. I have been buying the SS
in these in the 325 rear/ 275 front and find really it is perfect for the Z06.

The very slight less .2 tenths in height in not noticed.
They have a full thread of 10/32's. They are only 1450 a complete set.

This is the top choice for the Z06.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
The Z06 comes with the PSS Michelin which we know are runflats.

Michelin makes the SS non run flat.

According to Michelin and the reviews this is the best tire.

Problem is they don't make then in 335 only 325 that shows slightly
wider thread.
Then the front they have 275's. I have been buying the SS
in these in the 325 rear/ 275 front and find really it is perfect for the Z06.

The very slight less .2 tenths in height in not noticed.
They have a full thread of 10/32's. They are only 1450 a complete set.

This is the top choice for the Z06.
Do you have a link to these non run flat super sports?
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Originally Posted by RandomTask
Do you have a link to these non run flat super sports?
Look at tire rack for Michelin SS. I order mine from Discount/America's tire my local store.
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Get them road force balanced !

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