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Old 06-30-2016, 10:35 AM
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Don't think there would be much negative commentary if GM had produced a car that lived up to the "best track vette ever" hype. That's the main issue for most of the, as a lot of you call them, haters.


And for what it worth, I don't believe that all the haters (naysayers, my word) are folks who can't afford one and/or don't have or have never owned a supercar. It's all about disappointment and real hype.

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Old 06-30-2016, 10:35 AM
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I am seriously thinking about buying a Lambo Spyder and I could get it today if I trade my Vette. But I cannot trade it. Love the damn car too much.

I will wait till I can have both.
Old 06-30-2016, 10:37 AM
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Jealousy.
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Originally Posted by tonypittman
Thanks for the pic.

I'm not a huge C7 fan - I respect the car and appreciate it for what it is. Never did like the rear. However, this pic gives me a chub. Beautiful car, color, stance, trim, etc. I could see myself upgrading.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:48 AM
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I agree with this viewpoint. As someone who has owned more expensive cars, my "expectations" were much higher than when considering a Corvette. However, when the price tag (for my car) was around $115,000, accompanied by all the hype, I began looking more closely (remembering the poor interiors and finish of the past). As for me, selling a Porsche Turbo S (did not have garage space for both cars), I bought the Corvette "wondering" if I really would enjoy it. I can honestly tell you, I have never looked back.

In my case, with the exception of the overheating problem on the track (I have an A8), the car is technologically, mechanically, and aesthetically, as nice (to me) as my Ferrari, etc. Best




Originally Posted by almarlowe
I think it's because this Z06 is a different Vette. It is now being compared to other supercars. It's performance is now being compared to a higher level of competition and it performs as well as cars which cost 100k or more. Vettes were always nice fast sports cars with few US competitors in their market and no one considered them to be compared to the Porsches etc. of the world. Now that has changed and there is a new level of critique.
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Originally Posted by OLD_GOAT
I could care less with what some say or think. Most would give anything to have a C7Z in their garage, so in their shallow little minds, putting down the car compensates for not having the money to buy one.


Which means you care, at least a little. . .
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Originally Posted by Millerrock
Never met a girl that wouldn't get into a vette!!

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Old 06-30-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1320fan
Jealousy.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tonypittman
Disconcerting.

I've thoroughly enjoyed owning 5 different Corvettes, ranging from two C4s, a C5, a C6Z, and now a C7Z. Not one of these cars was what I'd call "PERFECT". Each had its strengths and weaknesses.

I truly think it's the best Vette ever...and possibly by a considerable margin. Are people like me missing something?
Sorry but I do NOT think the C7Z it is the best Vette ever. It is a compromised design create to appeal to graying men who what to be comfortable and to have an open air experience.

I encourage you to read posts 33, 64, 87, and 115 inhttps://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-the-c7.html
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Originally Posted by grcor
Sorry but I do NOT think the C7Z it is the best Vette ever. It is a compromised design create to appeal to graying men who what to be comfortable and to have an open air experience.

I encourage you to read posts 33, 64, 87, and 115 inhttps://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-the-c7.html
Told you. Group 1.

The link and post references are to his previous arguments why he doesn't like the car. Beautiful.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:32 PM
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I feel fortunate to be surrounded by all you rich people that can afford a Corvette.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:33 PM
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so far my experience is the opposite.... my 14 Z51 and now my 16 ZO6 get nothing but spinning heads and thumbs up..... the negative crap on this forum just hilarious ...drooling with envy
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullet Tooth
Told you. Group 1.

The link and post references are to his previous arguments why he doesn't like the car. Beautiful.
You forgot to mention in post #33 I mentioned things I like about the C7Z.
Old 06-30-2016, 12:41 PM
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Of course it's a compromise. I can drive it to a track 3 hours away with my top off and comfortable cranking my favorite tunes. Then I can put the top on and kick *** on the track with street tires. Take the top off and comfortably drive home. If you want t race on a track all day, buy a race car and Trailer it there. This is a street car that is track capable.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:55 PM
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For me, I would have liked the idea of the car a whole lot more if they had called it a ZR1 instead of Z06. It's not that I don't like the car (okay, the rear end still hasn't grown on me, and by now I don't think it ever will) it's just disappointment relative to the hype.

I just liked what Z06 used to stand for.
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Old 06-30-2016, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pcguy2u
Don't think there would be much negative commentary if GM had produced a car that lived up to the "best track vette ever" hype.
GM did drop the ball with this by not releasing a Ring time.
It immediately focused attention on its track capabilities and the rest, as they say, was history.

Originally Posted by grcor
appeal to graying men who what to be comfortable and to have an open air experience.
At 60 years old, I wouldn't consider it a "comfortable open air experience."
The cockpit is too cramped for that.
Something more roomy and higher off the ground would be better.
Old 06-30-2016, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
I also believe that if the ZR1 was this cheap we would have seen better drivers pushing them at the track and revealing their performance envelope.
I agree with all of your post except this one... I am a NASA instructor and a buddy of mine who is also an instructor has a stock C6 ZR1. He runs timetrials with it on Hoosiers and the car will run all day long. Yes it gets a bit slower when hot, but it runs. He runs near 2:00 at VIR w/o issue.

Every track weekend I see C7Zs in the pits overheating with moderate/average drivers.

As to the OP... the car is criticized because GM came out of the gate marketing the car as the most trackable Corvette in history. It didn't live up to it and they amended the marketing slogan to "track capable" or some vague term which they said meant only that the warranty was in effect even with track use.... which has been the case since the C5, but they acted like it was something new here.

They're fantastic cars... best Corvettes yet, but GM overpromised and underdelivered. With all the marketing about track focused and all the new vents/ducts and tech from the C7R (styling anyway) I was confident GM finally made a car that could truly handle track days with minimal mods... that seems to be the case for the Z51 but not the Z06.

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Old 06-30-2016, 01:33 PM
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[QUOTE=tonypittman;1592529688]Disconcerting.

I've thoroughly enjoyed owning 5 different Corvettes, ranging from two C4s, a C5, a C6Z, and now a C7Z. Not one of these cars was what I'd call "PERFECT". Each had its strengths and weaknesses.


Like others mentioned, everyone has access to the internet and social media. In addition, YouTube reviews etc. are everywhere and highlight the good and the bad for every car.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
that seems to be the case for the Z51 but not the Z06.

I wonder if the upcoming Grand Sport might be a better track performer than the Z51...
Old 06-30-2016, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TARANTULA
I feel fortunate to be surrounded by all you rich people that can afford a Corvette.


Truth. Good luck trying to explain to people on here that a Corvette is not a conquest vehicle.
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