Tadge Confirms Cooling Improvements for 2017 ZO6!
07-21-2016, 02:44 AM
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Guys bought this car in "good faith" based on GM's claim.
They should stand by their assertions about its trackability, especially when it was used to entice folks to buy the car in the 1st place.
07-21-2016, 02:51 AM
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Thread derailment!
07-21-2016, 04:58 AM
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I remember reading somewhere on this forum that during aftermarket cooling solution testing, completely removing the hood did not significantly affect oil, coolant, or trans max temps on track. It was either LG or GSpeed performing the testing. If that's the case, I'm not sure how good vents would have any effect. Maybe some huge intake holes in the front bumper like a GT3 would help.
07-21-2016, 05:08 AM
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Time shall tell what GM has engineered. By then we'll have 148 more pages of speculation and johnglenntwo nonsense posts.
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07-21-2016, 07:26 AM
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I wonder if the new SC cover necessitated a higher hood? Would that still be required on a retrofit where we don't need to pass EU pedestrian crash safety tests?
If they enlarged the single hood vent then presumably they also had to change the radiator to hood duct. I'm in the midst of putting a Halltech intake on my car and I wonder if the intake will still fit if the radiator to hood duct is larger.
Time will tell but too bad we don't have more details or photos. This constant drip of information just creates more speculation (like I just did!)
I wonder if we can tee up an Ask Tadge to get real details on the changes.
If they enlarged the single hood vent then presumably they also had to change the radiator to hood duct. I'm in the midst of putting a Halltech intake on my car and I wonder if the intake will still fit if the radiator to hood duct is larger.
Time will tell but too bad we don't have more details or photos. This constant drip of information just creates more speculation (like I just did!)
I wonder if we can tee up an Ask Tadge to get real details on the changes.
07-21-2016, 07:47 AM
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No. Let's wait to see what the real press has to say about the changes. More detail is coming, but again: I wouldn't take what you've read on this Motor1 site as gospel yet. I think it's click-bait but I'm happy to be proven wrong on that one.
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07-21-2016, 08:02 AM
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07-21-2016, 08:03 AM
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07-21-2016, 08:32 AM
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I don't know if hood and vent changes will be enough. The prudent move will be for one of the first 2017 models to get tracked to identify if these changes as well as the unannounced changes will be sufficient.
Hopefully this is not all window dressing to keep sales going. I find it strange that it took them 2 full years to tackle this problem.
Hopefully this is not all window dressing to keep sales going. I find it strange that it took them 2 full years to tackle this problem.
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07-21-2016, 08:54 AM
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I wonder if the new SC cover necessitated a higher hood? Would that still be required on a retrofit where we don't need to pass EU pedestrian crash safety tests?
If they enlarged the single hood vent then presumably they also had to change the radiator to hood duct. I'm in the midst of putting a Halltech intake on my car and I wonder if the intake will still fit if the radiator to hood duct is larger.
Time will tell but too bad we don't have more details or photos. This constant drip of information just creates more speculation (like I just did!)
I wonder if we can tee up an Ask Tadge to get real details on the changes.
If they enlarged the single hood vent then presumably they also had to change the radiator to hood duct. I'm in the midst of putting a Halltech intake on my car and I wonder if the intake will still fit if the radiator to hood duct is larger.
Time will tell but too bad we don't have more details or photos. This constant drip of information just creates more speculation (like I just did!)
I wonder if we can tee up an Ask Tadge to get real details on the changes.
From what I have heard, no on the higher hood. There is enough space between the 2016 supercharger lid and the hood to accept the 2017 lid and bricks. The only reason that space is there is for EU crash standards. Since GM imports less than 5000 Z06s into the EU they were able to get an exemption.
This will be a great addition to the TIKT heat exchanger system. The TIKT HX can reduce the temp of the water and they larger bricks will do a better job reducing the IAT.
07-21-2016, 08:57 AM
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From what I have heard, no on the higher hood. There is enough space between the 2016 supercharger lid and the hood to accept the 2017 lid and bricks. The only reason that space is there is for EU crash standards. Since GM imports less than 5000 Z06s into the EU they were able to get an exemption.
This will be a great addition to the TIKT heat exchanger system. The TIKT HX can reduce the temp of the water and they larger bricks will do a better job reducing the IAT.
This will be a great addition to the TIKT heat exchanger system. The TIKT HX can reduce the temp of the water and they larger bricks will do a better job reducing the IAT.
07-21-2016, 08:58 AM
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07-21-2016, 09:36 AM
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From what I have heard, no on the higher hood. There is enough space between the 2016 supercharger lid and the hood to accept the 2017 lid and bricks. The only reason that space is there is for EU crash standards. Since GM imports less than 5000 Z06s into the EU they were able to get an exemption.
This will be a great addition to the TIKT heat exchanger system. The TIKT HX can reduce the temp of the water and they larger bricks will do a better job reducing the IAT.
This will be a great addition to the TIKT heat exchanger system. The TIKT HX can reduce the temp of the water and they larger bricks will do a better job reducing the IAT.
07-21-2016, 09:43 AM
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They are off to the side but if you make the lid taller you can make the bricks taller also.
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07-21-2016, 09:58 AM
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The report said "new hood with improved cooling vents" so I'm not sure what that actually means. Since the Camaro ZL1 has the higher SC cover, I'm thinking Tadge may incorporate that into the Z06 to help cooling and perhaps forcing a slightly higher hood that may or may not include new or additional cooling vents.
Hopefully actual pictures will follow shortly.
Hopefully actual pictures will follow shortly.
07-21-2016, 10:13 AM
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Interesting... I'm not seeing how intercooler bricks will help when the issue isn't really IATs, but airflow management and cooling. We've seen all the work G-speed and LGM have put into testing the side-mount intercooler options. I'm skeptical GM's changes will work on a hot day with a good driver. But at least they're doing something. Kudos to the guys tracking these cars and bitching.
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07-21-2016, 10:27 AM
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Interesting... I'm not seeing how intercooler bricks will help when the issue isn't really IATs, but airflow management and cooling. We've seen all the work G-speed and LGM have put into testing the side-mount intercooler options. I'm skeptical GM's changes will work on a hot day with a good driver. But at least they're doing something. Kudos to the guys tracking these cars and bitching.
07-21-2016, 11:21 AM
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Don't want to sound like an ahol but this all sounds like what Callaway has already done... well over a year ago. Larger side bricks and an additional large primary brick on top. Hence the hole in the hood. They also added a larger reservoir and higher flow intercooler water pump. Callaway gets beat up on this forum all the time yet they designed a system that adds more air AND cooling. Plus a larger charger. Sure it would be nice if GM did this from the start.
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