Nürburgring Z06 time? 2017 GS sidesteps overheating?
08-10-2016, 06:29 PM
#41
Banned Scam/Spammer
What a bunch of crap. GM has a DESIGN flaw on its hands. The car does not vent out heat properly from the engine bay. They are changing the SC cover and hood to address this design flaw. Unfortunately for owners like myself - I have to buy these design solutions that will (hopefully/perhaps/we will see) make my car perform how it was supposed to in the first place (without having to buy all the cooling mods I did or resort to "home remedy" fixes).
If not for this major design flaw - as "GM's most track-ready car ever - or C7R for the street" - there would be a Nurburgring time eons ago and they would have proudly trumpeted it for all to see as they have for the C6 Z06 and ZR1 times. GM is all about racing victories. Now they are as quiet as a mouse. We will see it the new design fix will allow them to run a complete lap at full power - and if they can - it will be a fantastic time.
Again - this is not a components failure like the valve train in the C6 Z06 - which many manufacturers face to be fair. But a design flaw. That is why GM should fix is and the consumer should not have to pay for it.
If not for this major design flaw - as "GM's most track-ready car ever - or C7R for the street" - there would be a Nurburgring time eons ago and they would have proudly trumpeted it for all to see as they have for the C6 Z06 and ZR1 times. GM is all about racing victories. Now they are as quiet as a mouse. We will see it the new design fix will allow them to run a complete lap at full power - and if they can - it will be a fantastic time.
Again - this is not a components failure like the valve train in the C6 Z06 - which many manufacturers face to be fair. But a design flaw. That is why GM should fix is and the consumer should not have to pay for it.
08-10-2016, 07:14 PM
#43
Le Mans Master
08-10-2016, 07:58 PM
#44
Melting Slicks
Ibtl.
08-10-2016, 08:05 PM
#45
Banned Scam/Spammer
Why do you continue to ignore the evidence? GM is making significant design changes to address the issue, which is great. If there was no issue they would not have invested the time and money to do so. To answer your question the majority do not overheat because the majority do not track their cars. Simple.
08-10-2016, 08:13 PM
#46
Banned Scam/Spammer
That is good advice Sam and hope you are taking it. Looks like you might be on your way to accepting the fact that the C7 Z06 is a profoundly better car than your C6. It is faster 0-60, faster 1/4 mile, far better interior, better looking exterior, and better handling. Time to get the jealous monkey off your back. After years of bashing the C7 its time to give it up Sam. Hope it gets better for ya Dude.
08-10-2016, 08:32 PM
#47
Le Mans Master
Why do you continue to ignore the evidence? GM is making significant design changes to address the issue, which is great. If there was no issue they would not have invested the time and money to do so. To answer your question the majority do not overheat because the majority do not track their cars. Simple.
08-10-2016, 08:34 PM
#48
Banned Scam/Spammer
08-10-2016, 08:42 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
Actually do live on the Beach, maybe one day you can afford too as well.
See...I can play the "afford" card like you do.
See...I can play the "afford" card like you do.
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08-11-2016, 02:18 AM
#52
We are so past denying this issue.
GM has not only copped to it - they have spent a great deal of money to create a fix for their design flaw. This fix is supposed to remediate the two issues that owners - such as myself - have been complaining about since day 1. Heat soak from the SC - with a new SC lid and lack of heat circulation out of the engine bay - with a newly ventilated hood.
You apparently own one - I most certainly do - perhaps you and the other GM cheerleaders on here can turn your attention to something that will benefit owners - and try to get GM to make right with 2015 and 16 owners as opposed to us having to shell out (and estimated) 8-10K to get the car that was marketed to us.
I and others on here have taken so much heat (pardon the obvious pun) discussing these facts - and now that it is confirmed - there is still negativity coming our way? Tadge himself stated that it was due to people like us who made these positive and necessary changes happen.
And here's a clue - that is how change happens - through real feedback from its customer base versus rah rah rah despite the obvious overwhelming evidence and simple logic.
Oh - but you and the rest of the fanboys are the REAL fans of the Corvette and GM right?
I have a different opinion;
You don't love your car or the brand.
If you did you would care enough - more than your personal pride and how buying a car with a flaw makes you look - to help make it better when you know something is wrong - for everyone. Instead - you chose the weaker path and fight people who are trying to make a difference for the community and themselves.
Congrats.
To quote Jack Nicholson from a Few Good Men - I would prefer you just say "thank-you".
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08-11-2016, 02:42 AM
#53
Le Mans Master
If only you were "straightened out".
We are so past denying this issue.
GM has not only copped to it - they have spent a great deal of money to create a fix for their design flaw. This fix is supposed to remediate the two issues that owners - such as myself - have been complaining about since day 1. Heat soak from the SC - with a new SC lid and lack of heat circulation out of the engine bay - with a newly ventilated hood.
You apparently own one - I most certainly do - perhaps you and the other GM cheerleaders on here can turn your attention to something that will benefit owners - and try to get GM to make right with 2015 and 16 owners as opposed to us having to shell out (and estimated) 8-10K to get the car that was marketed to us.
I and others on here have taken so much heat (pardon the obvious pun) discussing these facts - and now that it is confirmed - there is still negativity coming our way? Tadge himself stated that it was due to people like us who made these positive and necessary changes happen.
And here's a clue - that is how change happens - through real feedback from its customer base versus rah rah rah despite the obvious overwhelming evidence and simple logic.
Oh - but you and the rest of the fanboys are the REAL fans of the Corvette and GM right?
I have a different opinion;
You don't love your car or the brand.
If you did you would care enough - more than your personal pride and how buying a car with a flaw makes you look - to help make it better when you know something is wrong - for everyone. Instead - you chose the weaker path and fight people who are trying to make a difference for the community and themselves.
Congrats.
To quote Jack Nicholson from a Few Good Men - I would prefer you just say "thank-you".
We are so past denying this issue.
GM has not only copped to it - they have spent a great deal of money to create a fix for their design flaw. This fix is supposed to remediate the two issues that owners - such as myself - have been complaining about since day 1. Heat soak from the SC - with a new SC lid and lack of heat circulation out of the engine bay - with a newly ventilated hood.
You apparently own one - I most certainly do - perhaps you and the other GM cheerleaders on here can turn your attention to something that will benefit owners - and try to get GM to make right with 2015 and 16 owners as opposed to us having to shell out (and estimated) 8-10K to get the car that was marketed to us.
I and others on here have taken so much heat (pardon the obvious pun) discussing these facts - and now that it is confirmed - there is still negativity coming our way? Tadge himself stated that it was due to people like us who made these positive and necessary changes happen.
And here's a clue - that is how change happens - through real feedback from its customer base versus rah rah rah despite the obvious overwhelming evidence and simple logic.
Oh - but you and the rest of the fanboys are the REAL fans of the Corvette and GM right?
I have a different opinion;
You don't love your car or the brand.
If you did you would care enough - more than your personal pride and how buying a car with a flaw makes you look - to help make it better when you know something is wrong - for everyone. Instead - you chose the weaker path and fight people who are trying to make a difference for the community and themselves.
Congrats.
To quote Jack Nicholson from a Few Good Men - I would prefer you just say "thank-you".
You win post of the year - and from a real enthusiasts. A real service to the Corvette community.
I can't wait to see the replies to this one. Going to have to dig deep into the cow manure pile to refute or argue anything you posted.
Last edited by Hirohawa; 08-11-2016 at 02:43 AM.
08-11-2016, 06:03 AM
#54
Le Mans Master
If only you were "straightened out".
We are so past denying this issue.
GM has not only copped to it - they have spent a great deal of money to create a fix for their design flaw. This fix is supposed to remediate the two issues that owners - such as myself - have been complaining about since day 1. Heat soak from the SC - with a new SC lid and lack of heat circulation out of the engine bay - with a newly ventilated hood.
You apparently own one - I most certainly do - perhaps you and the other GM cheerleaders on here can turn your attention to something that will benefit owners - and try to get GM to make right with 2015 and 16 owners as opposed to us having to shell out (and estimated) 8-10K to get the car that was marketed to us.
I and others on here have taken so much heat (pardon the obvious pun) discussing these facts - and now that it is confirmed - there is still negativity coming our way? Tadge himself stated that it was due to people like us who made these positive and necessary changes happen.
And here's a clue - that is how change happens - through real feedback from its customer base versus rah rah rah despite the obvious overwhelming evidence and simple logic.
Oh - but you and the rest of the fanboys are the REAL fans of the Corvette and GM right?
I have a different opinion;
You don't love your car or the brand.
If you did you would care enough - more than your personal pride and how buying a car with a flaw makes you look - to help make it better when you know something is wrong - for everyone. Instead - you chose the weaker path and fight people who are trying to make a difference for the community and themselves.
Congrats.
To quote Jack Nicholson from a Few Good Men - I would prefer you just say "thank-you".
We are so past denying this issue.
GM has not only copped to it - they have spent a great deal of money to create a fix for their design flaw. This fix is supposed to remediate the two issues that owners - such as myself - have been complaining about since day 1. Heat soak from the SC - with a new SC lid and lack of heat circulation out of the engine bay - with a newly ventilated hood.
You apparently own one - I most certainly do - perhaps you and the other GM cheerleaders on here can turn your attention to something that will benefit owners - and try to get GM to make right with 2015 and 16 owners as opposed to us having to shell out (and estimated) 8-10K to get the car that was marketed to us.
I and others on here have taken so much heat (pardon the obvious pun) discussing these facts - and now that it is confirmed - there is still negativity coming our way? Tadge himself stated that it was due to people like us who made these positive and necessary changes happen.
And here's a clue - that is how change happens - through real feedback from its customer base versus rah rah rah despite the obvious overwhelming evidence and simple logic.
Oh - but you and the rest of the fanboys are the REAL fans of the Corvette and GM right?
I have a different opinion;
You don't love your car or the brand.
If you did you would care enough - more than your personal pride and how buying a car with a flaw makes you look - to help make it better when you know something is wrong - for everyone. Instead - you chose the weaker path and fight people who are trying to make a difference for the community and themselves.
Congrats.
To quote Jack Nicholson from a Few Good Men - I would prefer you just say "thank-you".
Last edited by b4i4getit; 08-11-2016 at 06:07 AM.
08-11-2016, 06:26 AM
#55
Race Director
Overwhelming majority don't track their cars but the ones that do are having issues. You should pull your head out of your a** and look around, many are having issues that track their cars and I don't mean a drag strip.
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08-11-2016, 06:32 AM
#56
Aw shucks......Naaaww. This forum just put me in a gong show frame of mind. But seriously...the GS would be a great/perfect step up from a Miata if someone took an HPDE day & got bitten by the track bug, before they do this....https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...ving-car-meet/
08-11-2016, 06:56 AM
#58
Thats because its got all the SAME C7 Z06 trolls above day in and out repeating the same mundane crap hanging off every word desperate to get a word in. None of the trolling or comments are new either... Just more repetitive dribble from the copy & paste crew. Same arguments can be seen 2 yrs ago. Its pathetic lol
Last edited by GP1224; 08-11-2016 at 06:57 AM.
08-11-2016, 08:04 AM
#59
Banned Scam/Spammer
Thats because its got all the SAME C7 Z06 trolls above day in and out repeating the same mundane crap hanging off every word desperate to get a word in. None of the trolling or comments are new either... Just more repetitive dribble from the copy & paste crew. Same arguments can be seen 2 yrs ago. Its pathetic lol
08-11-2016, 08:44 AM
#60
Originally Posted by drmustang
Exactly, haters every one of them. These creeps who have been psychoticly attacking and bashing this car for the last 2 years are pathetic losers. The C7 Z06 is a great car period. Jealousy is such a destructive emotion. Hopefully GM patches in a fix or whatever that will shut up the creeps who complain about "overheating" every day of their lives. Get over it.
If we assume the OP is asking in good faith if he should get a GS vs a Z06 because of a concern that the 17 Z06 fix for overheating may not be enough, I think people are going to share their views. And that includes vocal people who aren't pleased that they go into limp mode on the track as well as those who don't track but feel that their '15 and '16 Z's are missing something found on the 17s.
Not sure why you believe to be the self-appointed arbiter of what is or isn't important to the OP or the rest of those that frequent these boards.