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Old 09-13-2016, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RS4EVA
Nice job. Interesting that you coast going into the esses and then mash the gas after the 1st curb just for a second. I'm surprised that doesn't upset the car.
Yeah, I picked that up from watching Jim Meros lap. It actually helps plant the back end.
Old 09-13-2016, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Newton06
Holy Sweet Jesus, that is hauling the mail - congrats!

Assuming you were in the Red/Instructor group?

What color was your car?

I was in the blue group this weekend and got my PBR 2:16.6, in my Z51 on PSS tires.

Sloth-like compared to your time!
Running in red group. Shark gray Z06. Parked up at the top of the hill. Sorry we didn't get to chat but those are pretty good times for a Z51 on PSS.
Old 09-13-2016, 10:46 AM
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Nice driving! That looks like a blast.
Old 09-13-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Can you post the Cosworth Vehicle Stats? Interested in how your coolant and oil temps compare to mine.

Also wondering about the regular running across the rumble strips at NASCAR and Oak Tree. Do you try and straddle them? I have gone out there several times to see if I could get a better line but they really beat the hell out of the car. I saw the Pros doing it every lap during the last race but they have sponsors to pay for the wear and tear.

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I also started doing it after watching the pro race. DSC shocks just soak up the curb. Just have to watch the throttle while on the paint. I'll post up later a few things I learned watching the pro race and tried this weekend. Will also pay Bosworth data.
Old 09-13-2016, 11:55 AM
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Nice to see that you did not overheat, the trolls will find that disappointing.

Is your car an M7 Z07?

How does this course differ from the C&D Lightning Lap?

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Old 09-13-2016, 03:50 PM
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When the Corvette Racing team qualified for the pole at VIR a few weeks ago with a 1:41.559 is this the same course you run Poor-sha. I am new to this car thing and trying to learn. If it is the same course then my next question is how do they do that. I have come to learn by listening to you and others that a full second in road course racing is huge. I understand they are NA cars with less horse power. I know they weigh less but is that the reason. C&D lightning lap shows the Z06 beat other cars like the McLaren that have a better power to weight than the Z06(I think). Could I put you in the C7R and you turn a lap that is very close to them. Thanks in advance. Love reading your posts.

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Old 09-13-2016, 04:05 PM
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What is the lap record for that course?
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Very impressive! Congrats!

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Old 09-13-2016, 04:30 PM
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sweet that track looks like a blast
Old 09-13-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WzUpDoc
When the Corvette Racing team qualified for the pole at VIR a few weeks ago with a 1:41.559 is this the same course you run Poor-sha. I am new to this car thing and trying to learn. If it is the same course then my next question is how do they do that.
Yes that is the same Full Course that Poor-sha runs. The C7R, though having less HP, only weighs 2745lb with fuel and driver which is about 900-1000 lb less that a production C7 Z06. It is also has more aero dynamic down force, more tire grip, and better brakes. All of this adds up to a much faster lap time.
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Old 09-13-2016, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Halltech
What is the lap record for that course?
For what type of car? The overall lap record is 1:35.43 by a LeMans P1 car. A C7 Z06 would fit in the TT1 time trial class and the NASA lap record for that class is 1:53.9

Nice Lap Poor-sha!

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Old 09-13-2016, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WzUpDoc
Could I put you in the C7R and you turn a lap that is very close to them. Thanks in advance. Love reading your posts.
I think it's safe to say that those guys are on a whole other level. As racerns has noted there is a lot more to those cars too but the factory pro drivers have a level of skill and experience that I will never come close to.

Looking at the data I can see another second of lap time and there's maybe 1-2 more in there if I had the ***** and did everything right but that's still 15 seconds a lap off of the pros in the C7.R. I saw those times and just shook my head.

My car is an M7.
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I meant for production vehicles. Thanks.
Old 09-13-2016, 06:42 PM
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Dude. That's some sick driving right there. Can you tell me at about what RPM you execute the no lift shift as to not hit the limiter? Any other comments on how it works? I used to no lift shift on my C6Z but I was more familiar with the car and it wasn't an "app" of the computer back then.

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Old 09-13-2016, 09:09 PM
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Just watched the video. Nice job using all of the new tarmack. Like your lines through 3 NASCAR jumping the curbing and coming out of Oak Tree and letting the car track left.....exactly the line I ran with my CTS-V albeit 16 seconds slower at 2:15. Also like how you straighten 14/14a at the end of the back straight. Extends the braking zone and let's you carry speed deeper.

Entry speed into the uphill essess is sick dude.....ballzy. I was jumping the burms there in the V to make that a straight away. Probably why I blew my passenger side shock. I'll be watching this video multiple times before I go. Well done!

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Old 09-13-2016, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Poor-sha
BTW, if anyone wants to know what no lift upshift sounds like check out the upshifts on the back straight coming out of oak tree. It makes a really cool sound.
Now that's getner done, that track is yours!

I need to try the no lift up shift next time for sound alone its worth it especially when passing porch or two.

Starting to feel bad for those that overheat and cannot enjoy their cars as we do. My M7 Z07 had a top EOT of 272 and coolant to 225 in the blistering heat this summer running hot laps. Never a power loss either

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Old 09-13-2016, 10:12 PM
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It's interesting we assume that a more seasoned driver is likely to overheat a car than a novice. I'd expect a novice to be equally or more likely. They simply want to mash the go pedal while carrying less average speed (i.e. Less air and speed for cooling). A pro driver could turn a much faster lap time and with less revs than the novice trying to drag race every straight section.

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Old 09-13-2016, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spearfish25
It's interesting we assume that a more seasoned driver is likely to overheat a car than a novice. I'd expect a novice to be equally or more likely. They simply want to mash the go pedal while carrying less average speed (i.e. Less air and speed for cooling). A pro driver could turn a much faster lap time and with less revs than the novice trying to drag race every straight section.
Noobs are more likely to overheat brakes, but veterans are more likely to overheat transmission and engine simply because a faster lap means more time at WOT which equals more heat. Novices dont usually give full throttle, coast into the brake zone, brake too long (hence brakes overheating) and are slower applying throttle on exit.

This is not an assumption. Its been proven time and again.
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Nice run, Sean. You are hauling butt!

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