2016 C7 at NCM 209.9
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#22
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That doesn't sound like overheating. You've got a lot of non temp related things going on and the fluid temps don't look that bad. The oil temp is high but it's not near the shut down limit.
It kind of sounds like an electrical issue of some sort. Loose ground or battery cable? I had an exhaust leak melt an electrical connector under the motor on mine.
Keep us posted and I hope for a quick fix.
It kind of sounds like an electrical issue of some sort. Loose ground or battery cable? I had an exhaust leak melt an electrical connector under the motor on mine.
Keep us posted and I hope for a quick fix.
Be well buddy and enjoy your vacation..
Jim
#23
Drifting
I am not good at getting and posting the data but here is what I have:
At turn 10 the car immediately slowed down to about 30-40 MPH, flashers came on, DIC said: LOW BRAKE FLUID, LOW OIL PRESSURE, HIGH OIL TEMP, Etc. It was important to watch for other cars in the red group until we got off track so I can't tell you what else it said. The car also called OnStar!
The Cosworth program showed:
Max water temp 230
Max oil pressure 51.1
Max oil temp 273
Max trans temp 167
If you notice 2nd gear was used a lot. Running the track in 3rd is slower but there are no issues.
I hope this is what you were asking.
Jim
At turn 10 the car immediately slowed down to about 30-40 MPH, flashers came on, DIC said: LOW BRAKE FLUID, LOW OIL PRESSURE, HIGH OIL TEMP, Etc. It was important to watch for other cars in the red group until we got off track so I can't tell you what else it said. The car also called OnStar!
The Cosworth program showed:
Max water temp 230
Max oil pressure 51.1
Max oil temp 273
Max trans temp 167
If you notice 2nd gear was used a lot. Running the track in 3rd is slower but there are no issues.
I hope this is what you were asking.
Jim
Thanks Jim,
That exactly what I was interested in. I agree with every one else that this sounds like an electrical issue because your temps weren't that bad at all. Also the calling of ONstar is especially interesting, I wonder if this could be due to the your sticky tires exceeding some g force threshold.
P.S. Enjoy your last ride. Godspeed and have a blast.
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Thanks Jim,
That exactly what I was interested in. I agree with every one else that this sounds like an electrical issue because your temps weren't that bad at all. Also the calling of ONstar is especially interesting, I wonder if this could be due to the your sticky tires exceeding some g force threshold.
P.S. Enjoy your last ride. Godspeed and have a blast.
That exactly what I was interested in. I agree with every one else that this sounds like an electrical issue because your temps weren't that bad at all. Also the calling of ONstar is especially interesting, I wonder if this could be due to the your sticky tires exceeding some g force threshold.
P.S. Enjoy your last ride. Godspeed and have a blast.
AND OR
The fact that so many systems lost communication with (stopped reporting) to the PCM/ECM at the same time. Losing so many systems simultaneously while the car is moving is indicative of a catastrophic crash so I imagine ONSTAR could be triggered in this instance as well.
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The car isn't as strong as you Jim :)
Say it ain't so. You are an amazing 72 years young and you outdrive all us young guys combined looking forward to seeing you and the SRF is in and I have bedded the brakes as instructed, secondary cooler installed at Power steering cooling duct (GM) installed
Nothing was done intentionally. I have run the car in many modes. That traction control or slipping comes on in every mode under braking. You cannot not feel it in the car. I am running Hawk 60 rear pads so maybe that has something to do with it with CCW C14 18 X 13 rear wheels with A7 345 tires. The tires are a bit taller than stock. I am not sure what all that means.
I am 72 years old and have had a great career but it is time for me to stop. I will be at the 10/10s event in a couple of weeks and that is it for this car on the track. My bones are getting less dense due to advanced prostate cancer treatments and my very supportive wife and doctors say it is time to quit.
Everything must come to an end.
Jim
I am 72 years old and have had a great career but it is time for me to stop. I will be at the 10/10s event in a couple of weeks and that is it for this car on the track. My bones are getting less dense due to advanced prostate cancer treatments and my very supportive wife and doctors say it is time to quit.
Everything must come to an end.
Jim
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Jim like Poor Sha said this isn't indicative of an overheat condition.
This is 100% an electrical problem. The braking system (low brake fluid) and the engine oil pressure warning system (low oil pressure) are 2 totally unrelated systems. The fact that you got both of these unrelated warnings as well as other warnings simultaneously tells us the communication from the data bus was lost for those systems. Generally when this happens the affected system defaults to the worst case alarm to "scare' the driver into a immediate reaction.
Have them look for a lose or water soaked connector at the PCM or as Poor Sha said burnt and or bare wires on the harness between the PCM and the engine sensor harness that feeds all of the engine sensors.
Let us know what you find out.
This is 100% an electrical problem. The braking system (low brake fluid) and the engine oil pressure warning system (low oil pressure) are 2 totally unrelated systems. The fact that you got both of these unrelated warnings as well as other warnings simultaneously tells us the communication from the data bus was lost for those systems. Generally when this happens the affected system defaults to the worst case alarm to "scare' the driver into a immediate reaction.
Have them look for a lose or water soaked connector at the PCM or as Poor Sha said burnt and or bare wires on the harness between the PCM and the engine sensor harness that feeds all of the engine sensors.
Let us know what you find out.
Jim
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I'm sorry to hear that Jim. As a urologist, I can understand what you're dealing with better than most folks. That being said, drive the tires off that car for as long as you can. Or take the young rookie under your wing and teach him how to make the car dance as you did in that video. Life is about doing and enjoying what you love.
I train everyone I can. Still race pro modified stock cars but that is ending also. I plan on continuing to instruct. I also have a close friend I am helping race in the SCCA.
Thanks for the input.
Jim
Last edited by Painrace; 09-29-2016 at 09:31 PM.
#28
Melting Slicks
I am on Lupron, Zytiga and Prednisone! PSA has been undetectable for over 2 years!
I train everyone I can. Still race pro modified stock cars but that is ending also. I plan on continuing to instruct. I also have a close friend I am helping race in the SCCA.
Thanks for the input.
Jim
I train everyone I can. Still race pro modified stock cars but that is ending also. I plan on continuing to instruct. I also have a close friend I am helping race in the SCCA.
Thanks for the input.
Jim
Just curious, but have you raced in the SCCA? If so, what class did you race in?
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Jim