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Old 10-20-2016, 10:27 PM
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Yep. same here. I will check in again tomorrow.
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Do the 17's already have the high octane table built in? Bulletin and parts description shows only for 15-16.


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Originally Posted by h3mpking
Do the 17's already have the high octane table built in? Bulletin and parts description shows only for 15-16.



The 2017 owner's manual says use 93 octane, but 91 may be used with reduced performance.





The 2016 manual states 91 is recommended.


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Old 10-21-2016, 10:13 PM
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Wow that's crazy. So if you're in California, or some other 91 and less place, and you buy a new Z06 you off the bat have a slower car.

Can someone please dyno a 2017? I'm sure it's the same **** but there's a slim chance it could be interesting.

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Originally Posted by phantasms
Wow that's crazy. So if you're in California, or some other 91 and less place, and you buy a new Z06 you off the bat have a slower car.

Can someone please dyno a 2017? I'm sure it's the same **** but there's a slim chance it could be interesting.
It's always been this way. 2017 isn't the first year for 91 and the owners manual "recommendations" don't change anything in the tune. The stock 2015/2016 Z06 tune knocks on 93, much less 91. Even a 2005 Silverado 5.3L knocks on 93.

Everything from the factory retards timing from the Hi Octane table.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by phantasms
Wow that's crazy. So if you're in California, or some other 91 and less place, and you buy a new Z06 you off the bat have a slower car.

Can someone please dyno a 2017? I'm sure it's the same **** but there's a slim chance it could be interesting.
My 17 come in VERY soon, I'll hit the dyno on 91, then disconnect the battery for a few minutes, add Torco, idle for a few minutes, then make another few pulls...

I also plan on getting the 100 tune...
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Originally Posted by jbsblownc5
My 17 come in VERY soon, I'll hit the dyno on 91, then disconnect the battery for a few minutes, add Torco, idle for a few minutes, then make another few pulls...

I also plan on getting the 100 tune...
I tried to get it yesterday on my 17 while I was there getting the 500 mile oil change and they said it was not available for purchase on a 2017.

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Originally Posted by h3mpking
I tried to get it yesterday on my 17 while I was there getting the 500 mile oil change and they said it was not available for purchase on a 2017.
Why would it not be....Very Interesting.... for us 15 and 16 owners. If it turns out the 17s are all coming with the 100 tune then us street and track guys cant go wrong getting it. We can have the best of both worlds a tune for the street and if we choose for the track higher octanes without worry of a warranty issue.

I'm looking forward to what this crew finds out here. Doesn't someone here have a contact inside GM to answer this simple question?

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Judging by the year availability and the fact that the 2017 manual calls for 93 instead of 91 I have a feeling that yes they do all come with it. But I still believe that a Z with this tune is going to run worse on 91 than a Z without this tune. There's a possible chance that I have no idea what I'm talking about though.

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24

I'm looking forward to what this crew finds out here. Doesn't someone here have a contact inside GM to answer this simple question?

Should we Ask Tadge?
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Originally Posted by phantasms
Judging by the year availability and the fact that the 2017 manual calls for 93 instead of 91 I have a feeling that yes they do all come with it. But I still believe that a Z with this tune is going to run worse on 91 than a Z without this tune. There's a possible chance that I have no idea what I'm talking about though.
You may be right and I hope so. Seems 93 is plentiful for most. My company will be testing Race-Gas additive and possibly becoming a dealer for. If it all comes together at the track with 93, Race-Gas and this tune may be a great receipt for us speed freaks.

Did you remove that Bernie rap yet or switch to Hillary? My hands shake just typing her name
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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24
You may be right and I hope so. Seems 93 is plentiful for most. My company will be testing Race-Gas additive and possibly becoming a dealer for. If it all comes together at the track with 93, Race-Gas and this tune may be a great receipt for us speed freaks.

Did you remove that Bernie rap yet or switch to Hillary? My hands shake just typing her name
haha yeah Bernia wrap is gone. It'll all be over soon my friend.

Working on something new a crazy....not political though.

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I have no idea how you can come to the conclusion that the 17s already have a 100 octane tune when the manual says 93 recommended but 91 may be used with reduced performance. It's not even the same numbers. LOL

It's not available for the 17s because it's different hardware and there has been no testing or validation on them as they are just now shipping. It may come out later or not at all.

Also every location that has the lower 91 octane has always had to deal with having a high performance car (high compression or boosted) that just won't make as much power as those that have 93 octane. This isn't just a Z06 thing.
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I have driven straight 100 octane fuel in my 2015 Z06 at a couple of road course events. The car absolutely loved it. I had stock tune.

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Originally Posted by h3mpking
I have driven straight 100 octane fuel in my 2015 Z06 at a couple of road course events. The car absolutely lives it. I had stock time.
Lives it or loves it haha
I have not so a question. At the end of a session any feeling of timing pull? Any noticeable diff in coolant temps. I know both of these questions cannot be very definitive.
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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24
Lives it or loves it haha
I have not so a question. At the end of a session any feeling of timing pull? Any noticeable diff in coolant temps. I know both of these questions cannot be very definitive.
HAHA..Lived it and loved it!

I noticed the car did not seem to pull power like it would without the higher octane fuel. That could have been all in the head. I also liked the fact that the exhaust tips did not turn black when running the 100.

The temps still climbed as you would expect after a 20 minute run of open throttle.

On my 2017, I have just over 500 miles on it and have noticed that the exhaust is nowhere near as black as the tips on my 15 got driving around on 93 pump gas. I wonder if they have leaned things out a bit.
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Originally Posted by h3mpking
HAHA..Lived it and loved it!

I noticed the car did not seem to pull power like it would without the higher octane fuel. That could have been all in the head. I also liked the fact that the exhaust tips did not turn black when running the 100.

The temps still climbed as you would expect after a 20 minute run of open throttle.

On my 2017, I have just over 500 miles on it and have noticed that the exhaust is nowhere near as black as the tips on my 15 got driving around on 93 pump gas. I wonder if they have leaned things out a bit.
more timing will burn more fuel, more octane allows more timing

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HAHA..Lived it and loved it!


On my 2017, I have just over 500 miles on it and have noticed that the exhaust is nowhere near as black as the tips on my 15 got driving around on 93 pump gas. I wonder if they have leaned things out a bit.
Or because the 17s have a different tune more in line with the 100 they are offering. Can you feel my optimism!

I see blue rails in the background of your avatar is that possibly Watkins Glen?
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Originally Posted by Mad Dog 24
Or because the 17s have a different tune more in line with the 100 they are offering. Can you feel my optimism!

I see blue rails in the background of your avatar is that possibly Watkins Glen?
I definitely think something is different on this 17 but without dyno proof or tune evaluation I am staying mum. It is looking quite possible that the tune is in line with that 100 octane tune. Will be curious to see someone pull data.


My avatar pic is from Circuit of the Americas.
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Originally Posted by h3mpking
I definitely think something is different on this 17 but without dyno proof or tune evaluation I am staying mum. It is looking quite possible that the tune is in line with that 100 octane tune. Will be curious to see someone pull data.


My avatar pic is from Circuit of the Americas.
where do you live? I could pull your tune and compare it with a 16 pretty easily.


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