Better deal? Please look
#2
Drifting
Are these from a dealer? Have you contacted them? I've been given so many "oh that's an incorrect price.. But when do u want to come take a look at it" in the last week when it comes to prices posted online.
#4
Drifting
Are these new or used? Those prices seem all most too good to be true prices.
#6
Your getting approx. 16K off on both cars and based on the MSRP of 89K and 91K and that's a pretty good deal. I have watched prices real close for the past month. On a MRRP car of say 110K you should be able to get 20K+ off.
One thing to ask is the "out of the door price". A couple of dealers tried to add 1000's to the advertised low price based on a couple of rebate items and dealer add on's.
The deal I finally put together just a couple of weeks ago was 20K off + only $195.00. Of course + taxes.
Good luck in your search. There are some great deals out there IMO.
One thing to ask is the "out of the door price". A couple of dealers tried to add 1000's to the advertised low price based on a couple of rebate items and dealer add on's.
The deal I finally put together just a couple of weeks ago was 20K off + only $195.00. Of course + taxes.
Good luck in your search. There are some great deals out there IMO.
#7
Melting Slicks
There are a couple dealers still offering deals such as these on 2016 models - I'm finalizing my purchase on a 2016 3LZ w/Z07 package - $21k off MSRP. I was going to order a 2017 but couldn't pass up the deal on the '16.
#8
Pro
Thread Starter
Put a deposit on the white 3lz my wife didn't like the red color I did, I'll finally be back in a Vette after 5 years! Only problem is I have 2 cars now
With the same engine!
With the same engine!
Last edited by nunii; 10-19-2016 at 08:37 PM.
#9
Same here, I just took delivery of a 16 3LZ Z07 at 20K off.
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bills02 (10-19-2016)
#10
MSRP brainwashing
It is amazing to me how the American car buying public believes that fantastically high MSRPs are the MARKET VALUE of a vehicle and, futhermore, that reductions off these fantasy MSRPs constitute "discounts".
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
#11
Pro
Thread Starter
It is amazing to me how the American car buying public believes that fantastically high MSRPs are the MARKET VALUE of a vehicle and, futhermore, that reductions off these fantasy MSRPs constitute "discounts".
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
#12
Drifting
The OEM's is where the gross goes, on the dealer side the margins have actually dropped and the monthly or quarterly objective bonus are much less than they were years ago which is where so much of the discounts can come from if they are chasing a number.
#13
Melting Slicks
It is amazing to me how the American car buying public believes that fantastically high MSRPs are the MARKET VALUE of a vehicle and, futhermore, that reductions off these fantasy MSRPs constitute "discounts".
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
My bet is that AFTER these discounts the dealers have at least $20,000.00 gross profit margin on the vehicles-perhaps higher.
Many entities exist that make their living telling us that these prices are real and that dealer margins are on par with those of grocery stores.
The prices of all vehicles has risen many many times that of inflation for decades now. Leading the charge to promote this trend has been MSRPs that are totally ridiculous.
As long as people keep paying such inflated prices dealers will keep charging them and asking prices will keep rising.
High prices are useful in marketing because the higher the price the higher the prospect's opinion of the value. This can be seen in several Euro brands.
If everyone had the mindset you have, they'd have all held out and driven the price down. But they know that if they don't buy it someone else will. Same reason athletes' contracts have gone berserk. The owners are all independent consumers.
Your guess of dealer profit is insane. There are websites that will tell you exactly what the dealer is into the car for, including hold backs and factory-to-dealer rebates.
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cvp33 (10-20-2016)
#15
Melting Slicks
Agreed. Anti-capitalist babble meant to make others feel like they paid too much no matter the purchase price. Back on topic - 20% off MSRP and no processing fees seem to be the best in class deals. Can't depbate the 2LZ versus 3LZ without knowing other options. I wanted PDR, black wheels and M7. Ended up with a lot of other options that are more cosmetic (C/F dash, red stitching, Carbon Flash mirrors) but it's all good as it had the basics that I wanted/needed for track work.
Last edited by cvp33; 10-20-2016 at 05:51 AM.