Tire puncture, can this be patched?
#1
Le Mans Master
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Tire puncture, can this be patched?
I was going in the fast lane about 75 mph, suddenly heard a series of clanking sound , immediately pulled over to the shoulder. Driver's side, rear tire ran over what appears to be a good sized bolt. The head is 0.5" AAA sent a flatbed, it was dark, so I didn't really want the guy to have to search for the correct towing points, besides, it was unsafe with traffic zooming by. I just slowly drove up the ramp, car was towed to my house. I think the clanking sound is due to the length of the bolt, it bangs against the rim. If I drive real slow, no sound. Obviously, I can't drive this slow to the tire shop even if the tire is ZP.
Questions:
[1] Is this patchable?
[2] Can I remove the wheel and take it to the tire shop, they patch it, and I remount it on the car? Then I'll drive it back for them to reset the TPMS.
[3] What kind of tire mounting machine is required? I've read that many shops don't have the correct machine and can damage the rim.
Thanks!
Questions:
[1] Is this patchable?
[2] Can I remove the wheel and take it to the tire shop, they patch it, and I remount it on the car? Then I'll drive it back for them to reset the TPMS.
[3] What kind of tire mounting machine is required? I've read that many shops don't have the correct machine and can damage the rim.
Thanks!
#2
Race Director
That's a huge bolt. Time for a new tire. Sorry
#4
Melting Slicks
I don't think shops will patch the run flats. They won't even patch Y rated performance tires that are not run flat.
What I would do is get weight off the car, pull the bolt, and check diameter of bolt/hole. Then I would check my mushroom plug kit and decide if the hole is small enough to plug. People will argue this can't be done, but I don't care. It has worked for me in the past and the plugs hold up to track use. No need to remove tire.
What I would do is get weight off the car, pull the bolt, and check diameter of bolt/hole. Then I would check my mushroom plug kit and decide if the hole is small enough to plug. People will argue this can't be done, but I don't care. It has worked for me in the past and the plugs hold up to track use. No need to remove tire.
#5
You may patch run flats, but probably not that large. Has to be plugged outside and patched inside (per Michelin). I think no more than 1 per tire allowed.
#6
Le Mans Master
According to the Tire Insustry Safety Association, which is the professional association for shops that plug tires, just a plug is never enough (you have to dismouint and patch it from the inside too), and in this case, it's too big:
"Never repair tires with a tread puncture larger that ¼-inch (6mm)"
You're close to 10mm, so it's tire time. Any chance you might have had any Road Hazard warranty on it?
Dave
"Never repair tires with a tread puncture larger that ¼-inch (6mm)"
You're close to 10mm, so it's tire time. Any chance you might have had any Road Hazard warranty on it?
Dave
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I had this happen (small nail) at only 600 miles (DAMN). Was told at tire repair shop & researched it online & found if puncture is too close to edge,yours is, ( basically outside first tread) it can't be safely patched because of the constant/tremendous amount of flexing of the tire (patch won't stay stuck). Seriously, I hated to spend so much on new PS2 but do you really want to risk your life or passenger 'cause you know sooner or later we have to push these beasts!
#8
Melting Slicks
Looks like you're within 1 1/2" of the sidewall which I've been told a couple of times means it shouldn't be repaired, and second that bolt is way too big.
Call Luke at the Tirerack.
Bish
Call Luke at the Tirerack.
Bish
#10
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Plugging is a temporary fix. A patch is ok if you don't track. The patch glue releases at high temperatures so the patch will let go on the track.
Sorry to hear about the wheel as well. Darn road debris.
Sorry to hear about the wheel as well. Darn road debris.
Last edited by Zjoe6; 10-29-2016 at 12:39 PM.
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If you don't have some sort of road hazard coverage or warranty coverage on the wheel it's time to talk to your insurance company to see if it can be covered under your comprehensive insurance. Usually the determining factor about comp coverage is if the thing you hit is moving and you can't avoid it comp will cover. If it isn't moving then collision covers. Hopefully, you didn't go with a large deductible on the comp.
The bright side of this is the tire is a run flat and the rim is ruined so you might as well drive on it. No need to worry about driving less than 50 miles at 50 mph to keep the tire repairable. Just drive it. That is the good thing about run flats they can be driven when flat.
Bill
The bright side of this is the tire is a run flat and the rim is ruined so you might as well drive on it. No need to worry about driving less than 50 miles at 50 mph to keep the tire repairable. Just drive it. That is the good thing about run flats they can be driven when flat.
Bill
Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 10-29-2016 at 12:43 PM.
#12
Melting Slicks
I agree, that one can't be plugged.
#13
I had one run flat plugged on a Corvette coupe. It was a Goodyear I believe. It was a nail not a bolt.
The guy at Goodyear asked me to come back and watch, I did. He installed a "plug patch"
The guy at Goodyear asked me to come back and watch, I did. He installed a "plug patch"
#14
Le Mans Master
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Thanks all! I'll look into the comp/coll insurance coverage. Otherwise it's gonna be about a grand. Quick look on tire rack shows the tire price to be about $500. The OEM wheel, how much am I in for?
#15
Melting Slicks
I just wrote this information in another thread. First go onto wwwtirerack.com and research about patching a run flat tire. IT CAN BE DONE!!!!!! I called Costco and they told me to bring it in and they would patch it for $10. I took it in and they even let me in the garage to watch to make sure they didn't mess up my wheel. I have put about 2900 miles on my car since I had it patched and so far no problems. I have had my car up to 160-170 several times also. Tire Rack has a chart of different tires and how many times you can patch each tire on their website. Good luck buddy!!!
#17
Le Mans Master
I would personally think that wheel can be repaired, but I don't know much about forged wheels, if that's what indeed ours are.
I'm selling a spare pair of rear wheels, but they're chrome (my factory OEM takeoffs). Not sure what yours are, PM me if I can help.
I'm selling a spare pair of rear wheels, but they're chrome (my factory OEM takeoffs). Not sure what yours are, PM me if I can help.
Last edited by davepl; 10-29-2016 at 03:56 PM.
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Le Mans Master
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Thanks!
Last edited by 427Z0SX; 10-29-2016 at 04:05 PM.
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#20
Le Mans Master
I have to say that I've never seen an object not only puncture a tire, but the wheel as well.
I wouldn't consider attempting to fix either, but replacing both... Check the for sale section, where typically OEM wheels and tires are available. GL.
I wouldn't consider attempting to fix either, but replacing both... Check the for sale section, where typically OEM wheels and tires are available. GL.