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Old 11-20-2016, 08:42 AM
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Those are pretty good videos Larry. They show the lift pretty well. For someone without alot of room and who doesn't want to deal with a giant 4 post or scissor, I really feel this lift is a good, safe alternative. Money was no object for me. I picked the lift I felt was best for my purposes. One of my Vettes is still sitting on it as I type. I am up early getting ready to crawl underneath her. Gotta wait another hour or so I don't wake the house with all the banging and clanking I am about to create. Snow is coming on Sunday, and I hate having to fire up the loud jet engine salamander heater.
I was changing the brakes on my buddy's S4 yesterday. First, I hate Audi, always have to do something different and second I've reaffirmed how much I hate jacks and jack stands.

I don't work on cars as much these days as I've got a miniature 1 car garage, but I definitely wouldn't mind getting a bit more active again
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Old 11-20-2016, 08:46 AM
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Larry, I don't understand your complaint. Fred's Race Ramps are awesome. Never had any problems.

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Old 11-20-2016, 09:03 AM
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I was changing the brakes on my buddy's S4 yesterday. First, I hate Audi, always have to do something different and second I've reaffirmed how much I hate jacks and jack stands.

I don't work on cars as much these days as I've got a miniature 1 car garage, but I definitely wouldn't mind getting a bit more active again
I hear you. I got real sick and tired of jacking up corners, manipulating jack stands and screwing around with the whole operation. REAL sick and tired of it. It is nice to just push a button and the whole car lifts and stays there as long as you want. Mine has been on the lift for almost 3 weeks now. Just pounded off the rotors last night. No issues. I can't stand taking my car to the dealer or shop, so I prefer to do my own work. I am no pro - not even close, but I can turn a wrench.

And just ignore Mitch. He is trolling this thread. He doesn't understand that you can't change brakes or tires using race ramps. And he somehow found a way to bring up Hilary Clinton in a discussion regarding lifts! Amazing. Fred does have a real nice product though. It is of very high quality and for its intended purpose it does it well.

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Old 11-20-2016, 09:20 AM
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Larry, I don't understand your complaint. Fred's Race Ramps are awesome. Never had any problems.
Not complaining, just stating facts...there should never be a "problem", it's pretty simplistic

I've had Rhino Ramps for 15 years, they're great but limited in what you can do. Race Ramps aren't too different than Rhino Ramps except that you get all fours off the ground

I've saved most of my money by changing my own brakes, rear end, springs, shocks, lower control arms, sway bars, spindle arm, etc.

Can't do any of that on Rhino Ramps or Race Ramps

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Old 11-20-2016, 09:41 AM
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One more little benefit, for us folks in the Northern states, we can likely store our cars on the quick jack and keep the tires off the ground
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:07 AM
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Just get yourself a QUICKJACK 5000. Best investment I ever made. Here is my C6 Z06 up on the lift this weekend. I'm installing DRM valved Bilstein shocks, spindle ducts, brakes, tow hooks and some other things. Use it on my C7 Z06 also. Works like a charm.
I see the jack in the front, but I assume when you actually get under it you place 4 jack stands on the corners??? As a Paramedic Fireman for 27 years I have ran on a couple fatalities where jack hydrolics have failed, not a good seen. You can never go wrong with a few jack stands
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Old 11-20-2016, 10:14 AM
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I see the jack in the front, but I assume when you actually get under it you place 4 jack stands on the corners??? As a Paramedic Fireman for 27 years I have ran on a couple fatalities where jack hydrolics have failed, not a good seen. You can never go wrong with a few jack stands
As I have said 3-4 times in this post, the lift is not held up by hydraulics. It is held up by two locking bars, with a combined total load rating of the unit with locking bars rated at 5000lbs. My own testing suggests the load rating is actually much higher. With the locking bars engaged, the hydraulics are not being used to hold the car up. I have said this over and over and over. In fact, you could completely disconnect the hoses and unplug the hydraulic pump if you wanted.

So to repeat for the 5th time, THE HYDRAULICS ARE NOT USED TO HOLD UP THE CAR. THE HYDRAULICS ARE USED TO LIFT AND LOWER THE CAR.

If you still wanted, 4 jack stands can be placed under the car in about 5 seconds. In the upper left hand corner of my second picture, you can see my blue jack stands available if I feel it is necessary.

So the car is held up BY THE LOCKING BARS, which when combined with the unit (WITHOUT HYDRAULICS) are rated to 5000lbs. I still have the hydraulics engaged in these pictures, which are ONLY A BACKUP. Then I have a second hydraulic jack as well as jack stands available if I am actually under the car. I am fairly certain that I am safer under my car than you are driving around the street.

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Old 11-20-2016, 10:28 AM
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Mordeth- I advise always Jack Stands. The LOCKING BARS could fail. Welds are not 100% anymore. Better safe than sorry .... Good day friend.

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Old 11-20-2016, 01:00 PM
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Mordeth- I advise always Jack Stands. The LOCKING BARS could fail. Welds are not 100% anymore. Better safe than sorry .... Good day friend.
My God... After watching this thread go straight to the bowels of He!! I can't believe that I'm responding.

But... Really?? I guess the welds on jack stands can fail also. Or they can just break because the metal is inferior. Or there could be an earthquake while you're under the car.

But I'm probably a racist also so please ignore this...
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:44 PM
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Those with quckjacks, are you just parking your car over it daily?
I just wanted to know if I can just leave the quickjack there under the corvette to double up the garage space.
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Old 11-20-2016, 01:52 PM
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Those with quckjacks, are you just parking your car over it daily?
I just wanted to know if I can just leave the quickjack there under the corvette to double up the garage space.
I do. You can drive over them but not <on> them. So when I'm done with my work, I lower them then push them under the car and leave them there.
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:19 PM
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Well, I did not vote for Hilary, but the idea of safely lifting all 4 corners with minimal effort (QUICKJACK)definitely has my attn. not to mention $1200 vs $1900,
One last thing, it seems to me that good old Mitch84 has already a couple of $ in 2 cents at a time��

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Old 11-20-2016, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mordeth
I do. You can drive over them but not <on> them. So when I'm done with my work, I lower them then push them under the car and leave them there.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 11-20-2016, 08:11 PM
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So where is the place to get the best price on the QuickJack?
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Old 11-20-2016, 08:26 PM
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So where is the place to get the best price on the QuickJack?
I got mine from GarageEnthusiast.com

They are a forum sponsor here. $75 discount to Corvette forum members. They were pretty good with keeping me informed of availability and shipping info. Mine arrived in about 2 weeks from order date. I did have a problem when I first ordered as my bank rejected the purchase. Ended up putting it on my credit card, who also rejected the order until I called them and told them to let it go through. Issue was on my end.
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Mordeth- I advise always Jack Stands. The LOCKING BARS could fail. Welds are not 100% anymore. Better safe than sorry .... Good day friend.
I have personally witnessed two different sets of ramps fail. One set failed when the vehicle was about half way up the ramp. The other failed after being up on the ramp about 5 minutes. Lucky for you, you weren't under the vehicle. There are hundreds of welds on a car. If you don't trust welding maybe you should give up driving.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:05 AM
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I have personally witnessed two different sets of ramps fail. One set failed when the vehicle was about half way up the ramp. The other failed after being up on the ramp about 5 minutes. Lucky for you, you weren't under the vehicle. There are hundreds of welds on a car. If you don't trust welding maybe you should give up driving.
Your Ramps failed? How so? Cheap ugly Rhino Ramps? Or Fred's amazing Ramps? Kinda hard to believe you. Please give specifics how they failed ....
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How are you not banned from here? Mods, please remove him
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How are you not banned from here? Mods, please remove him
How have I hurt your feelings? Just because you don't like me, so you have the authority to order the Mods to ban me? Wow, ok whatever ....

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I do. You can drive over them but not <on> them. So when I'm done with my work, I lower them then push them under the car and leave them there.
I do the same, works well
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