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Old 11-17-2016, 05:15 PM
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Question to you guys and girls.
On a yellow 2016 z06 21 k off .
The car is new do you think I can more off ?
Or should get a 2017 z06.
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Its probably hard to turn down a deal like that but for me I would just go with the new model 2017.

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They'll both be worth about the same in a month...so why pay $21k more for a 2017? You don't gain any warranty advantage...and if you're not gonna track the car, then the overheating is a non-issue. Hard to turn down $21k off.

Personally I'd much rather have the 2016 (at 21k off msrp) with the Callaway package, for pretty much what'd you ultimately pay for the 2017. Although I think some people are getting 5-10% off the 2017's...


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I have been debating....
Corvette z06 or a used 458.
Love the look of the 458.
But not much tourque.
Plus I would save a bunch of money with
Z06
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I've seen up to 13% off 2017's so look around if you want another color
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Originally Posted by 2006m5
I have been debating....
Corvette z06 or a used 458.
Love the look of the 458.
But not much tourque.
Plus I would save a bunch of money with
Z06
The 458's are nice...but you're also talking almost double the price, even for a used one, 2010 or so. $160-$200k. If you're looking for a manual, obviously get the Z06. If you want to 'not lose money' then try to find a manual F430 for $200k, they will likely go up in value, as they were the last Ferrari ever made in a manual and they only made about 8-10% in that spec.

I own a 612 Scaglietti and used to have a 360 in the past...They are cool, and they 'feel special' but the Z06 is loads more fun. The low end torque is incredible and the power is intoxicating.

The cost of ownership between used and new is also a factor, esp. with a Ferrari. Had a tranny problem in the 612, $17,000. Thankfully it was still under warranty, so make sure you're prepared to pay the piper if something breaks. Double the price to buy and quadruple the price to fix, for less performance, but still very cool cars.

Btw, I used to have a 2006 M5...loved the V10. Straight pipes and no cats...But again, nothing down low.

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So true on the m5 ...all top end.
Sold the m5,.,she was a beauty.
The 458 is the last of NA engines...but they want so much for them.
i might end up with a z06.

Do u fellas think yellow is a bad color to own.?

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Old 11-17-2016, 06:40 PM
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Get the '16 and send it to Callaway and have a rockin' fun ride.
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Originally Posted by 2006m5
Do u fellas think yellow is a bad color to own.?
i don't but it's all relative to you.

money a factor? easy choice.

one time dream purchase? get exactly what you want then.

every color Z06 is nice in its own way
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
i don't but it's all relative to you.

money a factor? easy choice.

one time dream purchase? get exactly what you want then.

every color Z06 is nice in its own way
Yellow looks good...but just concern of flash factor.
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I went with a good deal on a 16. It was 90% of what I would have ordered. No regrets.
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Originally Posted by 2006m5
So true on the m5 ...all top end.
Sold the m5,.,she was a beauty.
The 458 is the last of NA engines...but they want so much for them.
i might end up with a z06.
I just went through the same analysis. I have a 2000 360 Modena and I was looking to trade it for a late model 458 Italia. I drove the 458 and then drove a new manual Z06. I decided to keep the 360 and order a new Z06. I saved $100K and I'll be able to decide which won to drive on any given day. BTW the 360 is in for a belt serve...$8,500 ouch!
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Yea those 360's are a good but those belts services ...not good thing.

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Originally Posted by ZoratZ06
They'll both be worth about the same in a month...so why pay $21k more for a 2017? You don't gain any warranty advantage...and if you're not gonna track the car, then the overheating is a non-issue. Hard to turn down $21k off.

Personally I'd much rather have the 2016 (at 21k off msrp) with the Callaway package, for pretty much what'd you ultimately pay for the 2017. Although I think some people are getting 5-10% off the 2017's...

Originally Posted by OnPoint
Get the '16 and send it to Callaway and have a rockin' fun ride.
i like your thinking!!!
several have done the same w 2016 Z06 Corvettes, leaving money still in their pockets.

If we can help, please let me know.
Info@callawaycars.com

thanks!!
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Chris what does callaway do to make the car better faster...I assume.?

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Originally Posted by 2006m5
I have been debating....
Corvette z06 or a used 458.
Love the look of the 458.
But not much tourque.
Plus I would save a bunch of money with
Z06
Pony up and get the 488 then the torque won't be an issue
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Originally Posted by ZoratZ06
They'll both be worth about the same in a month...so why pay $21k more for a 2017? You don't gain any warranty advantage...and if you're not gonna track the car, then the overheating is a non-issue. Hard to turn down $21k off.

Personally I'd much rather have the 2016 (at 21k off msrp) with the Callaway package, for pretty much what'd you ultimately pay for the 2017. Although I think some people are getting 5-10% off the 2017's...

You honestly believe that???

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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
You honestly believe that???
Obviously that assumes you pay MSRP for the 2017. I'd much rather have the $21k off the 2016 model hands down, then 5% off or MSRP on a 2017. At least you can drive the 2016 for a year or so and not get hurt much on it...whereas the 2017 will depreciate 20% in the first 6-12 months and there's your $20k gone.

Of course the Callaway option is the way to go. A 2016 Callaway will likely always be worth more than a 2017 non-Callaway, assuming same miles, condition etc. Yet you'd pay the same to buy them in this case...easy decision there.
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Originally Posted by ZoratZ06
Obviously that assumes you pay MSRP for the 2017. I'd much rather have the $21k off the 2016 model hands down, then 5% off or MSRP on a 2017. At least you can drive the 2016 for a year or so and not get hurt much on it...whereas the 2017 will depreciate 20% in the first 6-12 months and there's your $20k gone.

Of course the Callaway option is the way to go. A 2016 Callaway will likely always be worth more than a 2017 non-Callaway, assuming same miles, condition etc. Yet you'd pay the same to buy them in this case...easy decision there.
There's that word - assume.

1) I read it as both are available (worst case 6-8 weeks for the 2017) so where is the " drive it for a year" part??
2) NO - trade-in is by the book, no way a '17 and '16 are worth the same " in a month " or even a year for that matter. The market knows the discounts, I find it comical when someone can tell people they have a $60,000 pickup that GM gave a $12,000 rebate on and when their friend asks " how much was it? - " it's $60,000", yet they paid $48k BUT when they go to trade it in a year later, to be offered $35,000 - their response " but it's a $60000 truck and you're offering $35k " ??
3) The PEAK is over now in it's 3rd year production, with the 17's starting to be discounted, the 15's and 16's take an even bigger bath in depreciation. See 2nd half of my point # 2
4) Yes the money question is very important, not so much if he plans to keep it a long time but then again, many have said that and months later, check the 'for sale' section - no one knows their future
5) Maybe he wants the '17's better cooling??


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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
There's that word - assume.

1) I read it as both are available (worst case 6-8 weeks for the 2017) so where is the " drive it for a year" part??
2) NO - trade-in is by the book, no way a '17 and '16 are worth the same " in a month " or even a year for that matter. The market knows the discounts, I find it comical when someone can tell people they have a $60,000 pickup that GM gave a $12,000 rebate on and when their friend asks " how much was it? - " it's $60,000", yet they paid $48k BUT when they go to trade it in a year later, to be offered $35,000 - their response " but it's a $60000 truck and you're offering $35k " ??
3) The PEAK is over now in it's 3rd year production, with the 17's starting to be discounted, the 15's and 16's take an even bigger bath in depreciation. See 2nd half of my point # 2
4) Yes the money question is very important, not so much if he plans to keep it a long time but then again, many have said that and months later, check the 'for sale' section - no one knows their future
5) Maybe he wants the '17's better cooling??

I think you missed the point. Fyi, in my first post, I commented on the cooling issue...and said, 'if you're not going to track it, then the cooling is a non-issue.'

The overall point was simple: assuming the 2017 is close to MSRP, let's call it $91k and the 2016 is also $91k (MSRP), BUT it's now $21k or $70k. You will no doubt be better off AFTER one year of ownership buying the 2016 car. Maybe the 2016 depreciates 'some'...but you own it at $70k, the dealer/market took most of the hit, so to speak. The 2017 will EASILY depreciate $10-$15k in a year, so now you paid $91k, but it's worth $75k. So the better VALUE is certainly the 2016 car, unless you can get the 2017 for 15-20% off.

Again, the Callaway would be the way I'd go...more performance and likely won't depreciate as quickly.
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