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Old 12-14-2016, 01:26 AM
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Default 2017 Z06 supercharger lid installed on 2016 Z06

I just installed the 2017 supercharger lid on my 2016 Z06. The install took about 20 minutes for the hood insulator (84016133) and supercharger lid (126703730) took about 30 minutes.

I purchased the parts from Trunk Monkey. The supercharger lid arrived damaged, because GM did not pack the bolts(which I did not order and were not on the bill of materials) in a bag. They just threw them in loose. So Trunk Monkey was great and replaced it with a new one. I also ordered the retaining clips for the hood insulator, but I used a plastic interior pry bar and got them out and they were in perfect shape. If you are careful, you can do the swap without new insulator clips.

Will the lid help at the track? I don't know. On my naturally aspirated cars I did run a plenum spacer and they seemed to help. The new lid has a lot more volume, looks badass and I don't think it will hurt. I am not going to swap out the intercooler bricks with the tilted ones.








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awesome write up, thanks
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Your welcome.
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awesome write up, thanks
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Odd they couldnt fit a bigger supercharger under the hood as well.
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One question I haven't seen answered yet, does the new taller lid fit with old hood insulator? Just wondering how close the fit is or will it actually make contact.
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How much more expensive would the tilted intercooler brick have cost and how much longer would the installation time have been?
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Thanks for the write up Now I need to call a monkey
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You could probably close the hood with the old insulator. I wouldn't recommend it, since it would put stress on the hood and, look like crap because of the rubbing between the lid and the insulation. You would have fibers all over the engine.

Its about $93 for the insulator to do it right.


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One question I haven't seen answered yet, does the new taller lid fit with old hood insulator? Just wondering how close the fit is or will it actually make contact.
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Does swapping out the lids void your warranty?
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How much the lid cost?
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trunk monkey is the cheapest on the hood insulator by a large margin. might order just to have for a future swap
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Originally Posted by skipperC7
Does swapping out the lids void your warranty?


id imagine it might be nothing to talk about if installed by a dealer and tech. but the DIY guys might catch some slack for it.




hopefully they will just change the oil check the tires and move along lol.....
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Originally Posted by mtaylor
Odd they couldnt fit a bigger supercharger under the hood as well.
The lobe length needs to be shorter to get down in the valley. That's why you get 1.7L rotors. And it's not a bad thing, they spin it faster, which is also not a bad thing. Until you get outside it's envelope, but I don't think anyone has shown that with the 1.7L yet...
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Originally Posted by skipperC7
Does swapping out the lids void your warranty?
If something downstream fails, like a rotor, it might. But I can't personally think of a practical failure that I'd expect that I could tie back to the lid.

People need to stop thinking they can void an entire warranty - you can wind up with specific warranty claims denied, but that's different.
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
The lobe length needs to be shorter to get down in the valley. That's why you get 1.7L rotors. And it's not a bad thing, they spin it faster, which is also not a bad thing. Until you get outside it's envelope, but I don't think anyone has shown that with the 1.7L yet...
Well the length wasnt an issue for the zr1, or is it the hp fuel pump that requires the blower to be shorter?
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Originally Posted by skipperC7
Does swapping out the lids void your warranty?
I don't see it voiding the warranty because it is a genuine GM part.

........and the fact that most stealerships won't be able to tell the difference.
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Originally Posted by mtaylor
Well the length wasnt an issue for the zr1, or is it the hp fuel pump that requires the blower to be shorter?
They couldn't get it down into the valley, and you wound up with a hole cut in the hood and a (sorry) cheezy plastic window looking at a cheezy plastic cover (good engine under all that though).

The LS9 and LSA (I think) look like they've got a bread box on top of the engine because the blower sits ON the engine rather than IN it.

Shorter lobes -> down in the valley -> lower motor -> lower hood -> lower center of gravity -> all goodness.

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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
They couldn't get it down into the valley, and you wound up with a hole cut in the hood and a (sorry) cheezy plastic window looking at a cheezy plastic cover (good engine under all that though).

The LS9 and LSA (I think) look like they've got a bread box on top of the engine because the blower sits ON the engine rather than IN it.

Shorter lobes -> down in the valley -> lower motor -> lower hood -> lower center of gravity -> all goodness.
So youre saying lobe diameter is the issue not length
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Originally Posted by mtaylor
well clearly with the new lid they had more room to work with and still keep the same hood height.
Yes the original was when they (INCORRECTLY, it turns out) thought they needed to meet the european pedestrian crash impact standard. That also requires a certain gap between the hood and the engine.

Now that they realized they don't, they revised the hood pad and the blower is able to take up that extra space.

Win-win, unless you're a pedestrian I guess!

So youre saying lobe diameter is the issue not length
Normally I'd say it's all about girth and length in proper proportion, but when it comes to blower lobes, no, I just thought shorter. Sure there's a diameter limit too, but all I really claim to know is that the TVS-2300 didn't fit so they went smaller with something that did fit. I wasn't in the room!

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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
Yes the original was when they (INCORRECTLY, it turns out) thought they needed to meet the european pedestrian crash impact standard. That also requires a certain gap between the hood and the engine.

Now that they realized they don't, they revised the hood pad and the blower is able to take up that extra space.

Win-win, unless you're a pedestrian I guess!



Normally I'd say it's all about girth and length in proper proportion, but when it comes to blower lobes, no, I just thought shorter. Sure there's a diameter limit too, but all I really claim to know is that the TVS-2300 didn't fit so they went smaller with something that did fit. I wasn't in the room!
i guess the aftermarket is always better at making stuff fit the eforce fits and i believe its the tvs 2300


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