Viper vs. Vette
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CONGRATS OP I am glad that your love you new sweet looking C7 Z and hope you enjoy it in good health!
I did the exact opposite of you and recently bought a 2010 Snakeskin Green ACR, with black tapered stripes in front, 1 of only 4 made, and I could not be happier with this bad azz machine, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!! After the A8 trans. on my 2016 Corvette Z06 had a catastrophic failure and was replaced with a brand new trans., I lost confidence in the C7 Z and traded it for my new Viper. I have to admit compared to the Viper that C7 Z was also boring with the auto A8 trans. M7 is the trans. to get in C7 Z, makes driving SO MUCH funner and less likely to fail!
Don't get me wrong the C7 Z is an awesome looking, super fast, corvette super car, but I just prefer the much more exotic, super rare, in your face, Gen IV Viper ACR, that has ZERO nanny controls. I also like considerably more the Gen IV Viper over the Gen V Vipers b/c the exterior styling on the Gen V Viper is way less aggressive looking (to me) than the exterior body lines of the Gen IV and the Gen V has all the nannies (which I don't like).
This is my second Gen IV Viper as I traded in a 2009 VOI Viper Coupe for the C7 Z06 (big mistake) but everything happens for a reason, as that ultimately led to me getting behind the wheel of my ALL TIME favorite Viper, the 2010 Snakeskin Green ACR that I just bought! The car I bought was PERFECTLY modded by Viper Guru Dan Cragin current owner of Specialty Performance. I am a hardcore go fast guy and my new baby is a complete animal with the following go fast mods. with ZERO nanny controls that has been perfectly modified by Viper Guru Dan Cragin.
1. Belanger Headers and High Flow Cats.
2. Ported and Polished Cylinder Heads
3. Ported Intake Manifold
4. Ram Air Carbon Fiber Kit with K&N Filter
5. Mopar Performance Computer
6. Last but not least rear end ratio upgraded from stock 3.07 to 3.73 gears (simply outrageous).
7. Another great bonus is car was upgraded to an awesome Alpine Stereo system with kick azz speakers and blue tooth which sounds incredible (when I am not just listening to that V 10 engine purring).
This car is a complete beast and incredible looking, puts a HUGE smile on my face whenever I drive it, love it way more than my 2016 C7 Z06 with the A8 trans. (which was boring to drive versus my new to me 2010 Viper ACR.
Now only if it wasant December in the suburbs of Chicago with 7 inches of fresh snow on the ground with sub-zero temps.
Just 3.5 months though until April 1st when the Snakeskin Green Venom Machine will be back out hunting on a full time basis!
I did the exact opposite of you and recently bought a 2010 Snakeskin Green ACR, with black tapered stripes in front, 1 of only 4 made, and I could not be happier with this bad azz machine, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!! After the A8 trans. on my 2016 Corvette Z06 had a catastrophic failure and was replaced with a brand new trans., I lost confidence in the C7 Z and traded it for my new Viper. I have to admit compared to the Viper that C7 Z was also boring with the auto A8 trans. M7 is the trans. to get in C7 Z, makes driving SO MUCH funner and less likely to fail!
Don't get me wrong the C7 Z is an awesome looking, super fast, corvette super car, but I just prefer the much more exotic, super rare, in your face, Gen IV Viper ACR, that has ZERO nanny controls. I also like considerably more the Gen IV Viper over the Gen V Vipers b/c the exterior styling on the Gen V Viper is way less aggressive looking (to me) than the exterior body lines of the Gen IV and the Gen V has all the nannies (which I don't like).
This is my second Gen IV Viper as I traded in a 2009 VOI Viper Coupe for the C7 Z06 (big mistake) but everything happens for a reason, as that ultimately led to me getting behind the wheel of my ALL TIME favorite Viper, the 2010 Snakeskin Green ACR that I just bought! The car I bought was PERFECTLY modded by Viper Guru Dan Cragin current owner of Specialty Performance. I am a hardcore go fast guy and my new baby is a complete animal with the following go fast mods. with ZERO nanny controls that has been perfectly modified by Viper Guru Dan Cragin.
1. Belanger Headers and High Flow Cats.
2. Ported and Polished Cylinder Heads
3. Ported Intake Manifold
4. Ram Air Carbon Fiber Kit with K&N Filter
5. Mopar Performance Computer
6. Last but not least rear end ratio upgraded from stock 3.07 to 3.73 gears (simply outrageous).
7. Another great bonus is car was upgraded to an awesome Alpine Stereo system with kick azz speakers and blue tooth which sounds incredible (when I am not just listening to that V 10 engine purring).
This car is a complete beast and incredible looking, puts a HUGE smile on my face whenever I drive it, love it way more than my 2016 C7 Z06 with the A8 trans. (which was boring to drive versus my new to me 2010 Viper ACR.
Now only if it wasant December in the suburbs of Chicago with 7 inches of fresh snow on the ground with sub-zero temps.
Just 3.5 months though until April 1st when the Snakeskin Green Venom Machine will be back out hunting on a full time basis!
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Congrats on the Viper Jimmy..
I also love Vipers. If it wasnt for the impending doom of Vipers next year, I was seriously contemplating buying a 2016 GT earlier this year. Bolt ons/tuning/e85 and they'll kill lightly modded C7Zs on the highway. I just didnt want to worry about parts availabilty after they stop production... (I just went through that crap with my wife's G8 we bought new, traded it for a 16' 2SS camaro).
There is definitely an "exotic" air about them.
I also love Vipers. If it wasnt for the impending doom of Vipers next year, I was seriously contemplating buying a 2016 GT earlier this year. Bolt ons/tuning/e85 and they'll kill lightly modded C7Zs on the highway. I just didnt want to worry about parts availabilty after they stop production... (I just went through that crap with my wife's G8 we bought new, traded it for a 16' 2SS camaro).
There is definitely an "exotic" air about them.
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Mopar Jimmy (12-20-2016)
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I'll stop by this thread to say I'm a Viper troll that's here soaking in all the great Z06 info... might close the deal on one today, with the intent of daily driving the crap out of it
I'm surprised at how much the C7's looks have grown on me, particularly in the Z06/Z07 trim. And the true kicker is the VALUE... typically 20% off new 2016 Z06s right now. If there were more Gen V Vipers around with really low miles, I might've gone after one... but I do like a flappy-paddle auto for daily driving and other elements of the C7 (e.g. HUD, front camera, CarPlay) are preferable to the Viper.
That said, I don't think I'll ever part ways with my Gen IV ACR. It's my track buddy and it'd be hard to let it go even if I had a big bag o'money to spend on a brand new ACR. And like Mopar Jimmy said: I kinda like knowing that there's no stability or traction control helping me drive my Viper.
We love the rarity of the car, but that also means that we've had to watch the Viper die a couple of times since '92. Unfortunately, I think we've reached a final end of the road: while there may be a car in the future that bears the Viper nameplate, it won't be a big honkin' NA V10 under the hood
Rich
I'm surprised at how much the C7's looks have grown on me, particularly in the Z06/Z07 trim. And the true kicker is the VALUE... typically 20% off new 2016 Z06s right now. If there were more Gen V Vipers around with really low miles, I might've gone after one... but I do like a flappy-paddle auto for daily driving and other elements of the C7 (e.g. HUD, front camera, CarPlay) are preferable to the Viper.
That said, I don't think I'll ever part ways with my Gen IV ACR. It's my track buddy and it'd be hard to let it go even if I had a big bag o'money to spend on a brand new ACR. And like Mopar Jimmy said: I kinda like knowing that there's no stability or traction control helping me drive my Viper.
We love the rarity of the car, but that also means that we've had to watch the Viper die a couple of times since '92. Unfortunately, I think we've reached a final end of the road: while there may be a car in the future that bears the Viper nameplate, it won't be a big honkin' NA V10 under the hood
Rich
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St. Jude Donor '06
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Very very nice, looks like a 2009 to me in of course snakeskin green with a black top and one big black solid stripe running down the hood and deck lid of the car?
The ONE thing I miss that the Viper does not have it he HUD.
You will enjoy the C7 Z for a daily driver its a great car and great value as you point out!
Very very nice, looks like a 2009 to me in of course snakeskin green with a black top and one big black solid stripe running down the hood and deck lid of the car?
The ONE thing I miss that the Viper does not have it he HUD.
You will enjoy the C7 Z for a daily driver its a great car and great value as you point out!
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St. Jude Donor '06
In 2010, only 4 Snakeskin Green ACR were made with the factory black tapered stripes shown on mine. 1 was wrecked on a race track and the I just located a guy in San Diego who has the 1 also (so there is 1 out there somewhere in addition to mine).
I bet your neighbors is a 2008 or 2009 ACR and if its a 2010 with my same exact tapered stripes then we just located the last one that has to be running around somewhere.
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#29
I've had two of them and loved them both, got lots of stares, smiles and compliments thrown at them. But, I do believe my '016 Z06 M7 is a better car, all the way around....performance, ride, build quality, the whole deal. The only thing the newest Viper has my Z06 beat in is resale value...if you have the financial strength and can find a Generation V, buy it and throw it into storage....it will be an excellent investment within the next decade.
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Wow, that car is awesome! Best of luck with it. I tried to do a 2016 Viper GTC 1 of 1 build before I ordered my C7Z but unfortunately the Viper's cost exceeded my budget. Deals were hard to find.
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My two favorite cars that are reasonably affordable. Both are bad to the bone!
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Mopar Jimmy (12-21-2016)
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I'll stop by this thread to say I'm a Viper troll that's here soaking in all the great Z06 info... might close the deal on one today, with the intent of daily driving the crap out of it
I'm surprised at how much the C7's looks have grown on me, particularly in the Z06/Z07 trim. And the true kicker is the VALUE... typically 20% off new 2016 Z06s right now. If there were more Gen V Vipers around with really low miles, I might've gone after one... but I do like a flappy-paddle auto for daily driving and other elements of the C7 (e.g. HUD, front camera, CarPlay) are preferable to the Viper.
That said, I don't think I'll ever part ways with my Gen IV ACR. It's my track buddy and it'd be hard to let it go even if I had a big bag o'money to spend on a brand new ACR. And like Mopar Jimmy said: I kinda like knowing that there's no stability or traction control helping me drive my Viper.
We love the rarity of the car, but that also means that we've had to watch the Viper die a couple of times since '92. Unfortunately, I think we've reached a final end of the road: while there may be a car in the future that bears the Viper nameplate, it won't be a big honkin' NA V10 under the hood
Rich
I'm surprised at how much the C7's looks have grown on me, particularly in the Z06/Z07 trim. And the true kicker is the VALUE... typically 20% off new 2016 Z06s right now. If there were more Gen V Vipers around with really low miles, I might've gone after one... but I do like a flappy-paddle auto for daily driving and other elements of the C7 (e.g. HUD, front camera, CarPlay) are preferable to the Viper.
That said, I don't think I'll ever part ways with my Gen IV ACR. It's my track buddy and it'd be hard to let it go even if I had a big bag o'money to spend on a brand new ACR. And like Mopar Jimmy said: I kinda like knowing that there's no stability or traction control helping me drive my Viper.
We love the rarity of the car, but that also means that we've had to watch the Viper die a couple of times since '92. Unfortunately, I think we've reached a final end of the road: while there may be a car in the future that bears the Viper nameplate, it won't be a big honkin' NA V10 under the hood
Rich
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Racer
I'm told Chrysler pulled the plug because they couldn't fit the side curtain airbags into the gen 5 therefore it would not meet the 2018 mandated safety standards..
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I read that too- probably here. With a clean slate I'm sure they can make it happen, as long as the funding is there. The guys I talked to said they have assurances that the Viper will be back before their current stock is worn out. I understand this is only word of mouth, so take it for what it's worth. The guys smiled as they spoke of it- kind of a wink and a nod. Again, for what it's worth.
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I read that too- probably here. With a clean slate I'm sure they can make it happen, as long as the funding is there. The guys I talked to said they have assurances that the Viper will be back before their current stock is worn out. I understand this is only word of mouth, so take it for what it's worth. The guys smiled as they spoke of it- kind of a wink and a nod. Again, for what it's worth.
The car only sells in the hundreds per year.
Marchionne has said it must make $$$ or it dies.
Chrysler/Fiat is not in the charity business.
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Those in the know say Viper is certainly done after the 2017 model. On a positive note I think that is going to really stabilize deprecation of thees great American exotic Icons and will even help increase the value of the more highly desirable Vipers, like the ACRs, as Vipers will be even more exclusive than they already are.
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bought a used gen 3 viper for $55k with 8k on it.. 6 years later sold it for $44k with 50K on it.. granted it got nicely massaged over the years..
Definitely doubt my Z07 is going to keep its value like that! and I'm sure I wont get any extra for any mods!
Definitely doubt my Z07 is going to keep its value like that! and I'm sure I wont get any extra for any mods!
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The looks of the Viper have been watered down when they stopped producing the GenII which is still unequaled in raw beauty and exclusivity. When it comes to track days the new ACR can't be beat. Yes, I enjoyed my GenIV and the Viper could still be king but like Dodge, Fiat will not invest any money in R&D. Imagine if Dodge would have thrown money into the Viper the way GM supports the Vette. The Viper would then be heads above the competition. I can honestly say at this point they are only equal in the HP dept.