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Newbie here, so easy, i did search but did not find a lot of threads on this topic. Not looking for a "debate" on RF vs Non RF, covered many times.
2016 C7 Z06 with 07 Option meaning comes with Super Sport Cup 2 ZP's
Cup 2 Track Tires, Car "Crabs" in turns, Rough, Noisy, I know Duh..
Switched Tires
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Conclusion
Next time will try the OEM Super Sport ZP as prefer the look, not at all sure "if" the ride would be as good as "non" RF Tires..?
[QUOTE=Mystic_2003;1593908499]Newbie here, so easy, i did search but did not find a lot of threads on this topic. Not looking for a "debate" on RF vs Non RF, covered many times.
2016 C7 Z06 with 07 Option meaning comes with Super Sport Cup 2 ZP's
Cup 2 Track Tires, Car "Crabs" in turns, Rough, Noisy, I know Duh..
Switched Tires
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Conclusion
Next time will try the OEM Super Sport ZP as prefer the look, not at all sure "if" the ride would be as good as "non" RF Tires..?[/QUOTE
you are so right, this thread could be the grand debate! IMO, the run flats ride hard, much harder than non run flats. For my driving habits, I would much prefer non run flats, but until the Michelins are available in the correct spec size, I'll likely stay with the standard Michelin run flats. Some of the members have tested and run the non run flat Continentals, but for me, I've tried Contis on other cars and never had much luck with them.
Newbie here, so easy, i did search but did not find a lot of threads on this topic. Not looking for a "debate" on RF vs Non RF, covered many times.
2016 C7 Z06 with 07 Option meaning comes with Super Sport Cup 2 ZP's
Cup 2 Track Tires, Car "Crabs" in turns, Rough, Noisy, I know Duh..
Switched Tires
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Conclusion
Next time will try the OEM Super Sport ZP as prefer the look, not at all sure "if" the ride would be as good as "non" RF Tires..?[/QUOTE
you are so right, this thread could be the grand debate! IMO, the run flats ride hard, much harder than non run flats. For my driving habits, I would much prefer non run flats, but until the Michelins are available in the correct spec size, I'll likely stay with the standard Michelin run flats. Some of the members have tested and run the non run flat Continentals, but for me, I've tried Contis on other cars and never had much luck with them.
Newbie here, so easy, i did search but did not find a lot of threads on this topic. Not looking for a "debate" on RF vs Non RF, covered many times.
2016 C7 Z06 with 07 Option meaning comes with Super Sport Cup 2 ZP's
Cup 2 Track Tires, Car "Crabs" in turns, Rough, Noisy, I know Duh..
Switched Tires
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Conclusion
Next time will try the OEM Super Sport ZP as prefer the look, not at all sure "if" the ride would be as good as "non" RF Tires..?[/QUOTE
you are so right, this thread could be the grand debate! IMO, the run flats ride hard, much harder than non run flats. For my driving habits, I would much prefer non run flats, but until the Michelins are available in the correct spec size, I'll likely stay with the standard Michelin run flats. Some of the members have tested and run the non run flat Continentals, but for me, I've tried Contis on other cars and never had much luck with them.
I had Conti's on my GS and they worked great. Much quieter. Once my stock sticky tires are dead, hopefully not until after the 2017 season I will replace them with non run flats.
There are myriad threads on this subject and Michelin has started responding somewhat already. Specifically, with the Pilot Sport 4 which is replacing the Pilot Super Sports and the Cups as well. I chatted with them some time ago and they were talking about developing the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires in the 20". They already have the 19" available. I had them on my C7 Stingray and they were fine for street use. However, there is a power difference of 190 horsepower and that may be a game changer. I am not a runflat fan and have removed them from all of my autos and carry a VIAIR 12 volt compressor, a Dynaplug kit, and as a last resort a large can of aerosol Slime. If the tire shreds then I will wait for the rollback. They do now offer the Alpin snow tires for the Z06 and that allows cold weather use if you want to change out tires twice a year.
IMO, the run flats ride hard, much harder than non run flats.
I use to agree with this comment 100% in my C5/C6 days. All my tires when needing replacement changed over to non run flats. Now I have changed my opinion, seems like run flats have improved over the years not as harsh of a ride and surprisingly less weight than before. Had the cup 2 Zp and did not think they where loud at all.
In regards to the Conti's, no personal experience but from what I have read from others here the Michelin PSS is a superior tire.
Going to see if the new Michelin's will be released in March in factory ZR1 sizes and if not will go the same route as you,
PILOT SUPER SPORT
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
I went from the MPSPs on my 2014 Stingray with 18s on the front and 19s on the rear and the front crabbing was completely eliminated, and the ride was much quieter, smoother, and more refined for touring. It was an A6, an early C7 and I loved it. The reason I included the transmission information is that it had longer gearing and the shifts were not as dramatic and pronounced as the A8 in the Z and it was 190 less HP than the Z. I did not have any uncontrollable fishtailing with hard acceleration. I never did track it, but I kept the MPSS just in case I changed my mind and put them back on it when I traded it in on the Z. I do not plan to track the Z either and I want a 4 seasons tire for it like the MPS A/S 3+s. I don't drive it in the snow as I have 4WD vehicles for that, but I want to be able to drive it when it is cool and the MPSS are really useless when it is below 45 + or -. I have the MPS A/S 3+s on my F56 JCW mini that is a fun little speedster and they work great on it. Of course it is FWD and less than half the HP of the Z, but I do track it some with the A/S 3s on it and it does fine. I carry a VIAR 12V compressor, Dynaplug kit, and a large can of Slime just in case when I am traveling. In the event of a catastrophic tire failure I will wait for the rollback.
I posted a few months back that I paid $1,242 for my replacement set. Still burning off the MPSS ZP's and can't wait to get the regular MPSS's on. The ZP's definitely ride stiff, but have good grip once they're warmed up. These are Michelin Pilot Supersports, not run flats, not sport cup 2's.
Got this deal during the ebay/DTD promotion $100 OFF $400 purchase.
1) Link through Befrugal for 6% rebate to Discount Tire Direct
2) Buy 325/25/20 R, 295/30/19 F Michelin Pilot Supersports (confirmed by others that these fit, slightly wider front and rear, even though the rears are 325 versus 335 they are in fact wider than the ZP's).
3) Use DTD credit card for payment
4) $100 Black Friday rebate + $60 DTD credit card rebate + $90 Befrugal rebate
$1,492 shipped free, no tax
- $160 DTD rebates
- $90 befrugal rebate
$1,242 NET
A few hoops to jump through but worth it to save $250.
[QUOTE=Mystic_2003;1593908499]
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Can you post some pictures of the front and rear tire lip/rim with the above sizes. Looking at the Michelin site and they offer 295/30R19 in the PSS, this may resolve the issue.
I posted a few months back that I paid $1,242 for my replacement set. Still burning off the MPSS ZP's and can't wait to get the regular MPSS's on. The ZP's definitely ride stiff, but have good grip once they're warmed up. These are Michelin Pilot Supersports, not run flats, not sport cup 2's.
Got this deal during the ebay/DTD promotion $100 OFF $400 purchase.
1) Link through Befrugal for 6% rebate to Discount Tire Direct
2) Buy 325/25/20 R, 295/30/19 F Michelin Pilot Supersports (confirmed by others that these fit, slightly wider front and rear, even though the rears are 325 versus 335 they are in fact wider than the ZP's).
3) Use DTD credit card for payment
4) $100 Black Friday rebate + $60 DTD credit card rebate + $90 Befrugal rebate
$1,492 shipped free, no tax
- $160 DTD rebates
- $90 befrugal rebate
$1,242 NET
A few hoops to jump through but worth it to save $250.
Awesome deal! I think the sizes you listed above are the way to go unless Michelin comes out with different sizes as part of the PSS replacement.
PILOT SUPER SPORT - Non Run Flats
Front: 275/30ZR19
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Opinion
Pro: Very Quiet, Very Smooth, More Tread(9.5/32), less $
Con: Tires a "little" small, esp on Front, little rim protection, rounded inwards vs the more blocked design on the CUP 's, 1 MPH Spedo Error
Can you post some pictures of the front and rear tire lip/rim with the above sizes. Looking at the Michelin site and they offer 295/30R19 in the PSS, this may resolve the issue.
Here you go..
Rear: 325/25ZR20
Front: 275/30ZR19
Last edited by Mystic_2003; 01-25-2017 at 08:51 PM.
thanks for those pics.. i HATE that look.. Had it on my C6 when I switched.. but the ride was AMAZING..... such a tough choice.. the look of the car is so proper with the squared shoulder of the RF.. that's about all they're good for in my eyes!
Not hard for me, I just wrote the check for $1464 @ Discount.
1. Ensure they have a Hunter Touchless Tire Machine and RoadForce Balancer
2. Set proper expectations and take pictures of wheels, "If you scratch you buy"
The guy said lots of cars today have RF(Run Flats), so even Cup2's not a problem.
But yes these are easier as sidewall is more flexible.
Easier to carry as saves 4 lbs per tire..
There are myriad threads on this subject and Michelin has started responding somewhat already. Specifically, with the Pilot Sport 4 which is replacing the Pilot Super Sports and the Cups as well. I chatted with them some time ago and they were talking about developing the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires in the 20". They already have the 19" available. I had them on my C7 Stingray and they were fine for street use. However, there is a power difference of 190 horsepower and that may be a game changer. I am not a runflat fan and have removed them from all of my autos and carry a VIAIR 12 volt compressor, a Dynaplug kit, and as a last resort a large can of aerosol Slime. If the tire shreds then I will wait for the rollback. They do now offer the Alpin snow tires for the Z06 and that allows cold weather use if you want to change out tires twice a year.
Always wondered, what is the recommended upper temp limit for the Alpin or other winter rated tires?
01-20-2017, 10:35 AM
Tires....Non-runflats on C7 Z06
