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Old 04-20-2017, 10:19 AM
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The big wing is almost obscene but man, that thing sounds sweet!
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I wonder if the Viper community complained this much about the ACR having a giant wing..

This is obviously a purpose built car.
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Have you seen the size of those side intakes? Looks like they are going to house some pretty big coolers!

Maybe a cheepish upgrade for Z06 cars...
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Have you seen the size of those side intakes? Looks like they are going to house some pretty big coolers!

Maybe a cheepish upgrade for Z06 cars...
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I agree about the front end/bumper. The photo's look like the fenders extend further at the top (could be just the camo wrapped over spats) and define a much greater angled and larger vent. Given all that being true a retro-swap would probably require both bumper and fender replacement. The other thing that has me puzzled (doesn't take much) is that supercharged cars don't (in my experience) produce flames at the exhaust tip but turbocharged cars very commonly do. But turbocharged cars don't commonly "whine" like the sound I hear on the recording.
Old 04-20-2017, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by foreverfuelie
I agree about the front end/bumper. The photo's look like the fenders extend further at the top (could be just the camo wrapped over spats) and define a much greater angled and larger vent. Given all that being true a retro-swap would probably require both bumper and fender replacement. The other thing that has me puzzled (doesn't take much) is that supercharged cars don't (in my experience) produce flames at the exhaust tip but turbocharged cars very commonly do. But turbocharged cars don't commonly "whine" like the sound I hear on the recording.
Whine aside!

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Old 04-20-2017, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by foreverfuelie
But turbocharged cars don't commonly "whine" like the sound I hear on the recording.
You're right...modern turbos tend to have a slight Whooosh sound to them.

The whine in the video is not really obvious to me.
Perhaps we have the DOHC motor in this car???
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Originally Posted by Garret
And with tre low wing as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTdhNcBXDQY
Based on the look of this rear wing vs. the other higher and more elaborate rear wing, I wonder if GM is going to offer various aero similar to the Stage 2 or Stage 3. What would be nice is if the track wing could be removed and a street wing could be installed providing the best of both worlds.

I know some guys would like the elaborate track wing on a street car coasting 30 MPH through commuter traffic, but I think the lower wing would be great for non-track driving.

Still surprised they didn't further differentiate the lower rear fascia with a diffuser.
Old 04-20-2017, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
You're right...modern turbos tend to have a slight Whooosh sound to them.

The whine in the video is not really obvious to me.
Perhaps we have the DOHC motor in this car???
Highly doubtful that this is a DOHC motor. Would be too tall to fit under that hood. Compact packaging still puts the cam in the valley.

I thought the supercharger whine was obvious. Turbos are much higher pitched, more like a whistle.

There's a huge difference between a whine and a whistle, whether it's forced induction, or women.

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I agree. Perhaps twin turbo.
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Originally Posted by MSG C5
Based on the look of this rear wing vs. the other higher and more elaborate rear wing, I wonder if GM is going to offer various aero similar to the Stage 2 or Stage 3. What would be nice is if the track wing could be removed and a street wing could be installed providing the best of both worlds.

I know some guys would like the elaborate track wing on a street car coasting 30 MPH through commuter traffic, but I think the lower wing would be great for non-track driving.

Still surprised they didn't further differentiate the lower rear fascia with a diffuser.
If you look at the "other brand", they have a low wing version and the "extreme" - higher, bigger wing. The low wing blocks your rear vision significantly, but the extreme wing is up out of the field of view. As far as swapping wings, not hard to do, but at $12K for the wing (other brand), it's a bit pricy. LOL By the way, the "low wing" version did not sell very well. For the track rat types that bought the car, it was "go big or go home".

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Originally Posted by mfain
If you look at the "other brand", they have a low wing version and the "extreme" - higher, bigger wing. The low wing blocks your rear vision significantly, but the extreme wing is up out of the field of view. As far as swapping wings, not hard to do, but at $12K for the wing (other brand), it's a bit pricy. LOL By the way, the "low wing" version did not sell very well. For the track rat types that bought the car, it was "go big or go home".

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A low slung version is it! Bigger and a matching splitter. Amazingly, the big nostrils in the Vette actually seems to have simplified things!

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Originally Posted by foreverfuelie
I agree about the front end/bumper. The photo's look like the fenders extend further at the top (could be just the camo wrapped over spats) and define a much greater angled and larger vent. Given all that being true a retro-swap would probably require both bumper and fender replacement. The other thing that has me puzzled (doesn't take much) is that supercharged cars don't (in my experience) produce flames at the exhaust tip but turbocharged cars very commonly do. But turbocharged cars don't commonly "whine" like the sound I hear on the recording.
Flames are all in the tune! Maybe GM has a track mod that injects a little too much fuel on over run to cool the chambers down a little. Or maybe the GM engineers just threw in a 'showoff tune' for the press (and to get us interested).

Agree about the cooling mods not going to be easy. But all the current 'solutions' are well over $5k! Lol
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Originally Posted by mfain
LOL By the way, the "low wing" version did not sell very well.
The lower wing wasn't the reason it didn't "sell very well."


For the track rat types that bought the car, it was "go big or go home".
Absolutely, the Big A$$ Wing is highly functional in a track setting.
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No doubt this mule is super charged
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No doubt this mule is super charged
No doubt it could be!
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Originally Posted by BaylorCorvette
I wonder if the Viper community complained this much about the ACR having a giant wing..

This is obviously a purpose built car.
No, and its exact reason why Chevy has never gone all-in for a Corvette track car.

Better off making a super luxurious high-powered variant with chrome wheels and curb feelers for most of this forum instead.

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Before I bought my C7, I had a 5th gen ZL1 and from outside of the car (from spectator position) you could really hear the supercharger whine and sounded very similar to this. I'm at the track frequently and see all sorts of cars out there with all sorts of configurations and nothing here points to turbocharger to me. Also for the record my supercharged ZL1 shot flames at the track, granted it wasn't OEM exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Kappa
No, and its exact reason why Chevy has never gone all-in for a Corvette track car.

Better off making a super luxurious high-powered variant with chrome wheels and curb feelers for most of this forum instead.
But think about how handy that big wing will be at the next Cars & Coffee. I imagine at least 12 Venti Mochas can fit on that wing at one time!

Waiting to see the first ZR1 with the track wing AND chrome wheels.

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A 700HP DOHC ZR1 with a SC sound track for the special people!


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