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Old 05-04-2017, 10:04 AM
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Ring fans. New GT3 ran the ring at 7:12. That's quote good.

https://www.porsche-press.be/nurburg...previous-model
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Ring fans. New GT3 ran the ring at 7:12. That's quite good.

https://www.porsche-press.be/nurburg...previous-model
911's suck on street tracks. VW and segmented Porsche Ring times have messed with us before. A VID Please!

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Well, the new ZR1 or Z06x has its work cut out for it. A 4.0 500HP GT3 with only 20% better Aero did it in 7:12.7. That's some good engineering right there.

Leave it to the Germans to have a 4.0 motor do what it does. Imagine, what they could have done with 6.2L or 7L of displacement.

Even if the ZR1 or Z06x beats or matches the time set by the GT3, it is still not impressive as it will be doing it with brute power ( > 650HP/TQ) and lots more Aero.

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Old 05-04-2017, 10:50 AM
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Just the Benchmark for that possible new small wing ZO6 (ZL1 like!) "Refresh"! Tough market GM!

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Originally Posted by Robert R1
Ring fans. New GT3 ran the ring at 7:12. That's quote good.

https://www.porsche-press.be/nurburg...previous-model
Originally Posted by Checkmate1
Well, the new ZR1 or Z06x has its work cut out for it. A 4.0 500HP GT3 with only 20% better Aero did it in 7:12.7. That's some good engineering right there.

Leave it to the Germans to have a 4.0 motor do what it does. Imagine, what they could have done with 6.2L or 7L of displacement.

Even if the ZR1 or Z06x beats or matches the time set by the GT3, it is still not impressive as it will be doing it with brute power ( > 650HP/TQ) and lots more Aero.
I'll be damned...I must have accidentally clicked on the Porsche forum.
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
911's suck on street tracks. VW and segmented Porsche Ring times have messed with us before. A VID Please!

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Old 05-04-2017, 11:22 AM
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WOW!

Tough Market GM (But, your 2015 SPEC had that handled, I'm sure!

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I'll be damned...I must have accidentally clicked on the Porsche forum.
@sunsalem- One has to admit the accomplishment here from Porsche. They always manage to do more with less.

It doesn't make me less of Vette supporter. If anything, it solidifies my standing as an enthusiast for all cars and good engineering.

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Originally Posted by Checkmate1
@sunsalem- One has to admit the accomplishment here from Porsche. They always manage to do more with less.

It doesn't make me less of Vette supporter. If anything, it solidifies my standing as an enthusiast for all cars and good engineering.
I agree, and yes it is possible to be a Corvette enthusiast while respecting other brands. They aren't mutually exclusive. Many here own multiple brands.
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The P-cars can really put power down at corner exit. This is something the mid-engine C8 will accomplish better than the C7. However, the ZR1 is going to rip down the 'Ring's straights. Hopefully we get to see a real Corvette 'Ring time.
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Originally Posted by Checkmate1
Well, the new ZR1 or Z06x has its work cut out for it. A 4.0 500HP GT3 with only 20% better Aero did it in 7:12.7. That's some good engineering right there.

Leave it to the Germans to have a 4.0 motor do what it does. Imagine, what they could have done with 6.2L or 7L of displacement.

Even if the ZR1 or Z06x beats or matches the time set by the GT3, it is still not impressive as it will be doing it with brute power ( > 650HP/TQ) and lots more Aero.

Imagine what GM could do if the selling price of the Corvette was the same as the Porsche.
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I fully expect the big wing ZR1 to be somewhere under 7:00 from what I saw at Laguna Seca. The cornering speed on the ZR1 was crazy fast.
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[QUOTE=skank;1594668197]I fully expect the big wing ZR1 to be somewhere under 7:00 from what I saw at Laguna Seca. The cornering speed on the ZR1 was crazy fast.[/QUOTE This car will set records!!
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
I'll be damned...I must have accidentally clicked on the Porsche forum.
Let the hate flow....

By the way, what's GM and Corvette doing at the Ring? Don't they know that no one cares about Ring times?
What a waste of a bunch of $$$'s.

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Let's all collectively assume they still have the SC engine in the ZR1, it's all about managing torque. Personally, I feel they should have kept the HP from 650-700 with a lot less torque as it would be great for road courses.

I blame too much torque as to why the Z06 can be unmanageable at the limits.
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Torque is a attribute not a detriment. Always has been and always will.
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Originally Posted by Checkmate1
Well, the new ZR1 or Z06x has its work cut out for it. A 4.0 500HP GT3 with only 20% better Aero did it in 7:12.7. That's some good engineering right there.

Leave it to the Germans to have a 4.0 motor do what it does. Imagine, what they could have done with 6.2L or 7L of displacement.

Even if the ZR1 or Z06x beats or matches the time set by the GT3, it is still not impressive as it will be doing it with brute power ( > 650HP/TQ) and lots more Aero.
Your argument has more holes than Swiss cheese.

And good luck getting a GT3 for anywhere NEAR the base price, if you can even get one.

Please go away.

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Originally Posted by 427Z0SX
Imagine what GM could do if the selling price of the Corvette was the same as the Porsche.
They're going to have this opportunity with the Zora.
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They better be working on their Overheating issues as much as the speed as far as I'm concerned.I think the Auto z06 was a complete ripoff.
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
By the way, what's GM and Corvette doing at the Ring? Don't they know that no one cares about Ring times?
What a waste of a bunch of $$$'s.


Originally Posted by Checkmate1
Let's all collectively assume they still have the SC engine in the ZR1, it's all about managing torque. Personally, I feel they should have kept the HP from 650-700 with a lot less torque as it would be great for road courses.

I blame too much torque as to why the Z06 can be unmanageable at the limits.


Originally Posted by skank
Torque is a attribute not a detriment.
Until this happens:

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