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Old 05-02-2017, 08:00 PM
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OnStar sent me my first "smart driver" report today. It informed me that I'd had 51 instances of hard braking, and 198 instances of hard acceleration, along with suggestions on how I could better avoid such situations in the future.
Old 05-02-2017, 08:09 PM
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Turn off the reports and notifications in your online profile
Old 05-02-2017, 09:13 PM
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Wow!! Mine must be off because I could only imagine what mine would say.. Lol
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I never enabled that service.
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:54 PM
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I did not enable OnSpy at all.
Old 05-03-2017, 09:42 AM
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Wish we could buy the car without OnStar. I get the same reports and to my knowledge did not turn anything on.
Old 05-03-2017, 09:59 AM
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Just bought a Caddy XT5 and at the time of signing, one of the docs was an agreement that I would not disable the OnStar system. Should have asked what would happen if I did do that or if I refused to sign it..


Big brother is there for sure and contrary to their statements on the issue, they're selling access to the data to the insurance industry.
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I turned it on for my 2 kids and nanny/wifemobile, so turned it on for my Z06 too just for fun and reference.

I don't do much hard braking on the street, but BOY I do a lot of hard acceleration, and according to their map, usually in the same locations! It's almost like there's a pattern.

It's not Big Brother though, since you have to turn it on. More like Big Cousin Bubba. That info is =supposed= to be private unless you opt in to have it sent to insurance carriers for a discount, etc.

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They called me while I was on the back stretch at Charlotte Motor Speedway at 160mph. They wanted to make sure that I was OK. It was funny as hell to all of the other Optima guys racing there that weekend.
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Originally Posted by Thomasmoto
They called me while I was on the back stretch at Charlotte Motor Speedway at 160mph. They wanted to make sure that I was OK. It was funny as hell to all of the other Optima guys racing there that weekend.
I saw a video of a quick CTS-V that OnStar called too - I guess he exceeded the G limits and triggered an accident call (it was at the end of the 1/4).

What would make them call you on the back straight, did they say?
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
I saw a video of a quick CTS-V that OnStar called too - I guess he exceeded the G limits and triggered an accident call (it was at the end of the 1/4).

What would make them call you on the back straight, did they say?
Yes, the speed indicated, 165 mph, a "possible" accident.

I actually hit the same speed 3 months later, on a road in Mexico of course, but they didn't call that time. I was just blowing the carbon out of it.

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Originally Posted by 8850
Wish we could buy the car without OnStar. I get the same reports and to my knowledge did not turn anything on.
You have to pay $5 extra per month to turn on the feature. As far as calling me or notifying my insurance company (it gets mileage reports so I can get an insurance discount) it never happened even when running around VIR or CMP at speed. The only thing that I can see that might cause confusion is if you wreck the car at the track and they call you to notify you they have notified emergency services and you say they are already here.

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Right after I bought the car they sent me either an email or a letter via regular mail saying that I had to sign some document or give my OK via email that I had read their contract and would adhere to the terms. I ignored it, and to make a long story short, I said I wasn't going to agree to a contract I never saw---------true story-----they sent me a ONE HUNDRED PAGE CONTRACT---all very small print---that they expected me to read, sign and mail back to them?????????

It went into the trash and they shut the service off---which I had asked the dealer to do in the 1st place when I picked up the car (claimed they couldn't).
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Yep, never turned it on, on any of the 7 vehicles that have it. I refused to sign any of their docs. Funny, they still sold me the cars.
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They told me I had to push the blue button before I left to activate. Whoops. Forgot.
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I actually have pulled the OnStar fuse in my trunk fuse block....Turns those annoying lights on the mirror off, too.
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Originally Posted by pcguy2u
Just bought a Caddy XT5 and at the time of signing, one of the docs was an agreement that I would not disable the OnStar system. Should have asked what would happen if I did do that or if I refused to sign it..


Big brother is there for sure and contrary to their statements on the issue, they're selling access to the data to the insurance industry.
The auto insurance would like nothing better than improved driving statistics to start charging based on actual individual driving patterns and mileage. I've always argued the mileage issue because I used to drive over 30K miles per year mostly on divided highways and expressways without any accidents or violations, whereas I had a cousin who only worked 5 miles from her house and had three tickets and two accidents in one year.

I like the old days when your insurance premium was less each year as the car aged and replacement costs were reduced. These days, my insurance premium inches up every year without any violations or claims, just because they have to make up for the other drivers.
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My "Savvy" accessory [Blocks low speed false signals] for my Valentine One radar detector plugs into the OBD for power and speed sensing. As a result, On-Star downloads are blocked.
The unheralded and largely unknown benefit of Savvy is blocking big brother!
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Originally Posted by $Bill
My "Savvy" accessory [Blocks low speed false signals] for my Valentine One radar detector plugs into the OBD for power and speed sensing. As a result, On-Star downloads are blocked.
The unheralded and largely unknown benefit of Savvy is blocking big brother!
Nice. Is the accessory specific to the Valentine, or does it also work with the Escort brand?


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