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Old 06-01-2017, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AZDANZ06
At Spring Mountain driving an A8 they made us use the paddle shifters, if not the Z in drive would hunt for gears, using the paddle shifters it was actually quite good going around the track.
Every review states the auto is flawless, but must be driven correctly to be flawless. So yes, for novice students, auto would be a mess. Auto will also overheat quick.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Goldsworth
Thanks, all, for the advice so far. Interesting about the transmission - didn't realize there were issues tracking it. I live in southern California, so desert and heat are the norm for me; especially when tracking.
I'll be on the Roval this Sat in Fontana if you want to swing by and see what the Z can do on the track. This event allows passengers. PM if interested.
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Here's my detailed review coming from a 991.2 GT3

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...991-1-gt3.html
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Originally Posted by AstroRR
Every review states the auto is flawless, but must be driven correctly to be flawless. So yes, for novice students, auto would be a mess. Auto will also overheat quick.
This has not been my experience. Novice drivers typically do not work the car hard enough, even in automatic mode, to overheat the car. More advanced drivers who push the automatics much harder, even in manual mode, are able to overheat the car fairly easily.
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Originally Posted by Bullet Tooth
This has not been my experience. Novice drivers typically do not work the car hard enough, even in automatic mode, to overheat the car. More advanced drivers who push the automatics much harder, even in manual mode, are able to overheat the car fairly easily.
When we did the ride along with the Instructors at Spring Mountain, they ran them in Manual Mode with the Paddle Shifters, these guys can drive I need to upload the video from the PDR of my ride along.
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Originally Posted by Bullet Tooth
This has not been my experience. Novice drivers typically do not work the car hard enough, even in automatic mode, to overheat the car. More advanced drivers who push the automatics much harder, even in manual mode, are able to overheat the car fairly easily.
You are correct, I didn't really write that correctly. In the NV desert, a novice going slow in the corners then hammering it on the straights would drop the car into a much lower gear. They had us stay in 3rd and 4th and short shift as to not overheat.
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Keep one of the Porsches as your daily driver and get either a C5 Z51 coupe and fix it up for the track with a built supercharged engine or get a C6 Z06 and with a little work it will make an awesome track car.

That way you will end up with two cars(with one, the Porsche, will still be drivable if the other gets broken while on the track), with one, C5 or C6, dedicated for the track with the necessary safety modifications, etc.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Keep one of the Porsches as your daily driver and get either a C5 Z51 coupe and fix it up for the track with a built supercharged engine or get a C6 Z06 and with a little work it will make an awesome track car.

That way you will end up with two cars(with one, the Porsche, will still be drivable if the other gets broken while on the track), with one, C5 or C6, dedicated for the track with the necessary safety modifications, etc.
That 'one take' guy (with the shaved head?) on YOUTUBE tested a C7 with a maggy on top...it got hot at the end of that cannon road he always testes on..
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Originally Posted by 2fastnow
That 'one take' guy (with the shaved head?) on YOUTUBE tested a C7 with a maggy on top...it got hot at the end of that cannon road he always testes on..
lol he's bald and his name is Matt Farah.
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How were you able to overlay the real time data at the bottom of the screen. I have the PDR but don't remember this being an option. I need to be educated. Thanks


Originally Posted by LagunaSecaZ06
My tires were worn out, and I needed to have a track alignment. But with a Z06 (Manual 7 speed) I could stick with a 2015 Turbo S (PDK). With new tires and the alignment I would have been able to pass her.

https://youtu.be/D3-cskrPKzU

Keep in mind 650HP/650 Lb/ft TQ with only rear wheel drive demands respect. With traction control off, you can lay two patches of rubber for as long as you want, without slipping the clutch(just floor it hard in 1st). Its a whole new experience with 650HP/RWD.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by AZDANZ06
When we did the ride along with the Instructors at Spring Mountain, they ran them in Manual Mode with the Paddle Shifters, these guys can drive I need to upload the video from the PDR of my ride along.
Yes, please do.
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Originally Posted by bcmarly
Yes, please do.
Here you go

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Originally Posted by Kevin Goldsworth
Sorry, another question for the tracksters - am I nuts for considering the "auto" transmission? Am coming from the Porsche world (even though mine are manual) where PDK is king for lap times.
A very good friend of mine sold his 2007 911 Turbo and bought a Z06 M7. He is extremely happy. We have several Z06's in our group and we all run advance level lap times. The only problematic Z06 happened to be the A8. Engine overheats quickly due to close ratio as explained by GM. Stay away from A8 for track duty. You will run the same lap times if not faster as GT3 RS with PDK. I really like Porsche just so you know. It goes back to driver skill. We are in So Cal as well.
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I've tracked my old C7 Stingray and 981 Cayman S (both sold) and currently have a GT4 and C7 Z06 (still breaking it in). I love the mid engine Porsches for their balance and ease of fast driving on the track and street. The Porsches feel 'sturdier', but I enjoy the Corvettes more for everything but tight courses, like autocross, where the Porsche mid engine and short wheel base excel. My z51 Stingray ran 2 sec. faster lap times than my Cayman S with me driving both and running the same tires (Michelin PS). On the track, my GT4 can keep up with my buddies C7 Z07 in the tight corners, but his lap times are a couple seconds faster overall because of his power when the course opens up. If you want to challenge your ability and have a very fast car, go for the Z06. If you want a car that is easy to drive quick (but slower) get the Porsche.
Either way, get a manual transmission unless you really care about getting 10ths of a second quicker lap times.

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Originally Posted by 2fastnow
That 'one take' guy (with the shaved head?) on YOUTUBE tested a C7 with a maggy on top...it got hot at the end of that cannon road he always testes on..
You don't need a hair drier on a C6 Z06. Easy to get the same power to the rear wheels as the C7 Z06 with just H/C/I with the LS7.

Then combine that 575rwhp LS7 with a 350 pound lighter car(C6 Z06) and you will see a very quick car on the track(road course or drag strip).
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Originally Posted by AZDANZ06
Here you go

Thanks, 2 things: you were driving with the nannies off, and you were short shifting at around 5000-5500 rpms. Were you not driving aggressively enough to warrant activating the nannies? I heard the instructor say that it was easier on the car with the nannies disengaged, which makes sense, but there's a trade off.
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Originally Posted by bcmarly
Thanks, 2 things: you were driving with the nannies off, and you were short shifting at around 5000-5500 rpms. Were you not driving aggressively enough to warrant activating the nannies? I heard the instructor say that it was easier on the car with the nannies disengaged, which makes sense, but there's a trade off.
That was the instructor driving, I was riding with him.


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