Porsche owner, considering trading in for a Z06...
06-01-2017, 01:03 AM
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Well... according to Car and Driver's lightning lap. The 2016 Cayman GT4 lapped in 2:54.0, the 2014 Cayman S in 3:02.6. If you slot the GTS in between those, let's call it a 2:58. That is 5 seconds slower than the 2014 z51, 11 seconds slower than the 2016 Grand Sport, 14 seconds slower than the 2015 Z06. So track worries be gone. Plus the new z06s are now cured from overheating issues.
The z06 is a total animal in comparison to your two cars. Twice the amount of horsepower. It will be a 100% change you should definitely take. You'll be surprised at how good the interior is also. And if you don't need all the gobs of power, the grand sport is the better choice.
The z06 is a total animal in comparison to your two cars. Twice the amount of horsepower. It will be a 100% change you should definitely take. You'll be surprised at how good the interior is also. And if you don't need all the gobs of power, the grand sport is the better choice.
06-01-2017, 01:24 AM
#3
My tires were worn out, and I needed to have a track alignment. But with a Z06 (Manual 7 speed) I could stick with a 2015 Turbo S (PDK). With new tires and the alignment I would have been able to pass her.
Keep in mind 650HP/650 Lb/ft TQ with only rear wheel drive demands respect. With traction control off, you can lay two patches of rubber for as long as you want, without slipping the clutch(just floor it hard in 1st). Its a whole new experience with 650HP/RWD.
Hope that helps.
Keep in mind 650HP/650 Lb/ft TQ with only rear wheel drive demands respect. With traction control off, you can lay two patches of rubber for as long as you want, without slipping the clutch(just floor it hard in 1st). Its a whole new experience with 650HP/RWD.
Hope that helps.
So I currently own Porsches; namely an '05 911 and '15 Cayman GTS. Am considering trading both in for a Z06. Am I nuts? Any former Porsche owners here? A few main obvious reasons: getting a fast Porsche costs lots of money, fun favor seems high in the Z06 camp...
My main concern is missing the handling. I do track my Cayman about once a month. It's super fun in the twisties, but lacks power in the straights. Although it does teach good driving discipline; in other words, carrying speed through turns.
Anyways, thoughts from the group?
My main concern is missing the handling. I do track my Cayman about once a month. It's super fun in the twisties, but lacks power in the straights. Although it does teach good driving discipline; in other words, carrying speed through turns.
Anyways, thoughts from the group?
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06-01-2017, 01:50 AM
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In my experience about 4 track days and 6,000 miles on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. The carbon brake pads are good for 4 trackdays and 8,000 miles(street) and are about $450 from Amazon. I've heard the carbon rotors last about 14-16 track days. Gas mileage for me is 25MPG at 70MPH, 19MPG city driving and 3.5MPG at the track (burns a 1/4 tank per 20 minute session).
06-01-2017, 02:16 AM
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I can't speak for the Cup 2s or the MPSS that come on the C7, but my C5 had run-flats and I opted for non run-flat MPSS due to cost and ride comfort. Not a track car though.
06-01-2017, 02:18 AM
#11
I need to replace my tires soon, can you please recommend some nice non run flat cost effective options? I will need to keep a patch kit handy I suppose.
06-01-2017, 07:50 AM
#12
So I currently own Porsches; namely an '05 911 and '15 Cayman GTS. Am considering trading both in for a Z06. Am I nuts? Any former Porsche owners here? A few main obvious reasons: getting a fast Porsche costs lots of money, fun favor seems high in the Z06 camp...
My main concern is missing the handling. I do track my Cayman about once a month. It's super fun in the twisties, but lacks power in the straights. Although it does teach good driving discipline; in other words, carrying speed through turns.
Anyways, thoughts from the group?
My main concern is missing the handling. I do track my Cayman about once a month. It's super fun in the twisties, but lacks power in the straights. Although it does teach good driving discipline; in other words, carrying speed through turns.
Anyways, thoughts from the group?
06-01-2017, 08:03 AM
#13
Unless you are a total animal in the cayman, the corvette will be faster in the straights and in the corners - by a lot.
For brakes, swap to AP racing brakes and you will get 10-20 days out of the pads. I have 12 days on a set of pads and they look less than half worn. I will mic them this weekend.
The corvette will be much harder on tires.
For brakes, swap to AP racing brakes and you will get 10-20 days out of the pads. I have 12 days on a set of pads and they look less than half worn. I will mic them this weekend.
The corvette will be much harder on tires.
06-01-2017, 08:05 AM
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The only Porsche to pass me on track has been a Cup car... I absolutely love the P cars but even the GT3RS (with most drivers, a pro would certainly close the gap) struggles to keep up with the Z06 in my experience. Then again, there are plenty of drivers on track in new Z06s that are going slower than molasses.
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06-01-2017, 08:55 AM
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Dump the 2 P cars and go for the Z06 as it will rip the ***** off the old 911 and the Cayman which is not much more than a fast go kart. Neither of those is any match for the profoundly superior Z06. I've done the 911 thing, forget about it.
06-01-2017, 09:15 AM
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I've been in both cars. I'm going to a track this weekend where I fully expect to have trouble with the Caymans.
Having been in both cars, it's not so much a general handling difference. The Z06 has more grip than the GT4 I was in. The biggest difference is in balance and how nimble the car is. It's tougher to throw the Z06 around for me in stock form than a GT4. You feel the extra weight. If you get into tight slaloms that are lower speed or a very technical track where you can't use the hp, you'll wish you had the GT4. The rest of the track, you want the Z06 even in the turns. That's a pretty small set of tracks though.
As the car sits, I'm still getting used to the Z06. My wife tracked it all year last year. I have about 6 track days (where I was driving this car) and half of those were in the wet. I primarily run with PCA and we've converted a few over to the Z06 after being in the right seat.
Don't get the auto. I wouldn't even recommend the Z07 package as the brakes are really only ideal for the street. They perform great but aren't practical from a cost standpoint. All the track guys I know switched to iron because of the cost. I run the AP/Essex kit all around and they are better performers, lighter, last forever (9668 caliper), and are much much cheaper to run. They cost as much as a set of rotors/pads for the carbons to buy the whole kit initially.
My advice for a track car would be to get a low optioned Manual Z with the PDR option (performance data recorder) and get the 2nd radiator. Start there and then you can figure out if you want to upgrade brakes and add a suspension controller along with some fresh cup 2s every now and then.
Having been in both cars, it's not so much a general handling difference. The Z06 has more grip than the GT4 I was in. The biggest difference is in balance and how nimble the car is. It's tougher to throw the Z06 around for me in stock form than a GT4. You feel the extra weight. If you get into tight slaloms that are lower speed or a very technical track where you can't use the hp, you'll wish you had the GT4. The rest of the track, you want the Z06 even in the turns. That's a pretty small set of tracks though.
As the car sits, I'm still getting used to the Z06. My wife tracked it all year last year. I have about 6 track days (where I was driving this car) and half of those were in the wet. I primarily run with PCA and we've converted a few over to the Z06 after being in the right seat.
Don't get the auto. I wouldn't even recommend the Z07 package as the brakes are really only ideal for the street. They perform great but aren't practical from a cost standpoint. All the track guys I know switched to iron because of the cost. I run the AP/Essex kit all around and they are better performers, lighter, last forever (9668 caliper), and are much much cheaper to run. They cost as much as a set of rotors/pads for the carbons to buy the whole kit initially.
My advice for a track car would be to get a low optioned Manual Z with the PDR option (performance data recorder) and get the 2nd radiator. Start there and then you can figure out if you want to upgrade brakes and add a suspension controller along with some fresh cup 2s every now and then.
06-01-2017, 09:24 AM
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Having owned a 981 boxser S and a 2017 z06 there is no comparison. Interior is almost as good 9/10ths. The only thing better was the pdk damn that was the best Trans I owned I have the a8 auto now. But 650/650 certainly male up for it. I would do it again.
06-01-2017, 09:37 AM
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Yes you would be nuts for getting the auto since you apparently want to go to the track. You will be visiting your dealer a lot if you go this way. Not clear if you currently have a PDK but you won't like the A8 by comparison. It is not meant for the track. If you do get a Z06 consider the manual since it is mostly bulletproof. Keep in mind that overheating may still be in your life especially if you are one of the few drivers that can push the car to its limits.
06-01-2017, 09:50 AM
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Yes you would be nuts for getting the auto since you apparently want to go to the track. You will be visiting your dealer a lot if you go this way. Not clear if you currently have a PDK but you won't like the A8 by comparison. It is not meant for the track. If you do get a Z06 consider the manual since it is mostly bulletproof. Keep in mind that overheating may still be in your life especially if you are one of the few drivers that can push the car to its limits.
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