Corvette Z06 Owners Hit GM with Proposed Class-Action Lawsuit
#41
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This is idiotic. A class action lawsuit over an issue that only effected 4 cars under very specific conditions out of the 20,000 they sold? Great. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation and the only people who are ever going to get anything out of this are the attorneys. Meanwhile we'll all have cars that take another $10k hit because they have a bad rap that they don't deserve at all. Even worse, now I'm gonna have to have the same retarded f'n conversation at every car show (and eventually) with every potential buyer when I go to sell it; 'did it ever overheat?'.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
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The only Z06 owners that I have heard about having overheating issues are ones that have posted such on this and other forums. I wonder how far this will actually go...
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All you guys have to do is go to a track day during a summer month with 80F+ ambient temps. Every automatic Z06 there will overheat. M7s will overheat if driven 9 or 10/10ths. Just because they don't overheat while getting groceries doesn't mean this isn't a very real concern for those guy who bought the Z06 for a track car. This horse has been beaten so many times it's now dust. Just respect the perspective of other owners who have bought an $80-100k car that doesn't perform to the expectations set forth by the manufacturer.
Jag, Z06s overheating are a dime a dozen at Sebring from May through October.
Jag, Z06s overheating are a dime a dozen at Sebring from May through October.
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That's a shame...
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When in all your life have you been able to show up at a track with an unmodified vehicle, be competitive and not expect to eventually exceed the limitations of the car?
And when have you been able to take a car to the track abuse it in a racetrack environment and drive it the local dealer for warranty service and not be denied?
I get it, you are one of the few that can exceed the cars limitations on a hot day. Many think you are being unreasonable in your expectations. There will be a percentage of folks capable of exceeding the limitations of any product.
Perhaps if you spent your resources and time improving the car rather than in the lawyers office you would have the most capable car at the track..(if you don't already?).....Seriously how far can the Z be off the mark at your skill level? What an extra cooler or two? Maybe a $1000 bucks or so? Certainly less of a commitment in time and funds than a law suit.
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This is idiotic. A class action lawsuit over an issue that only effected 4 cars under very specific conditions out of the 20,000 they sold? Great. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation and the only people who are ever going to get anything out of this are the attorneys. Meanwhile we'll all have cars that take another $10k hit because they have a bad rap that they don't deserve at all. Even worse, now I'm gonna have to have the same retarded f'n conversation at every car show (and eventually) with every potential buyer when I go to sell it; 'did it ever overheat?'.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
Most people won't run the car hard enough but many of us are struggling with the choice of spending 6-8k on parts and installation and having a cut up front bumper or overheating every session.
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This is idiotic. A class action lawsuit over an issue that only effected 4 cars under very specific conditions out of the 20,000 they sold? Great. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation and the only people who are ever going to get anything out of this are the attorneys. Meanwhile we'll all have cars that take another $10k hit because they have a bad rap that they don't deserve at all. Even worse, now I'm gonna have to have the same retarded f'n conversation at every car show (and eventually) with every potential buyer when I go to sell it; 'did it ever overheat?'.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
No matter how it turns out, the damage is done. Way to go ********.
#49
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Nothing going to happen with this. Guaranteed. GM has much deeper pockets than any of you as well as a large team of lawyers that can keep this tied up longer than you will be interested in the car and no longer own it. Now if there were fatalities like the ignition debacle this might be successful but the only thing that got hurt was your enjoyment of the car and feelings that you got taken by a shady marketing department.
#51
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I do not track my Z, I do run some 1/2 mile events twice a year and allow for plenty of cool down between passes, so it's not an issue for me. I spearheaded the Class Action Suit against GM for the C6Z Valve Guide Issue, I swore I would never buy anything GM again, **** last year I bought two fully loaded 2016 2500 HD Duramax/Allison Trucks and our 2016 Z06/Z07, spent over 200K on GM, they do make cool stuff compared to other manufacturers, their trucks are bullet proof with the engine/tranny combo.
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All you guys have to do is go to a track day during a summer month with 80F+ ambient temps. Every automatic Z06 there will overheat. M7s will overheat if driven 9 or 10/10ths. Just because they don't overheat while getting groceries doesn't mean this isn't a very real concern for those guy who bought the Z06 for a track car. This horse has been beaten so many times it's now dust. Just respect the perspective of other owners who have bought an $80-100k car that doesn't perform to the expectations set forth by the manufacturer.
Jag, Z06s overheating are a dime a dozen at Sebring from May through October.
Jag, Z06s overheating are a dime a dozen at Sebring from May through October.
Are they the only stock cars out there having issues?
The truth of the matter is most every car out there has some modifications or its having an issue or its not running with the pack.
They have improved brakes, improved exhaust, improved suspension improved cooling. We all know it, lets not pretend all the other cars are showing up unmodified running at the front of the pack.
On a hot day its not just C7 Z06's that are having problems at the track for one reason or another.
Since when do folks expect to show up with an unmodified car at any race track and not have issues?
I don't get it.
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Since GM called it the "most capable track Corvette ever". Try to understand those that like to track or do HPDE's, you would be hacked too. The cars are flawed whether you want to admit it or not. The good thing is I believe this has been a real incentive for GM to build a real track capable car, the C7 ZR1!
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To add, it wasn't constant 25 min going at it. Sometimes we stopped to let groups catching up from behind to pass us. Also, we slowed whenever we did car rotations every 2 laps. I think all that helped keep temps low(er.)
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I'm sure nothing will come of this nonsense other than maybe GM rolling out their "fix" or "upgrade" or whatever it is a little sooner. Those of you who claim to be on the fence about buying the car don't back out because of this.
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So where did GM say you could show up at any track on any day and run at the front of the pack without modifying the car?
When in all your life have you been able to show up at a track with an unmodified vehicle, be competitive and not expect to eventually exceed the limitations of the car?
And when have you been able to take a car to the track abuse it in a racetrack environment and drive it the local dealer for warranty service and not be denied?
I get it, you are one of the few that can exceed the cars limitations on a hot day. Many think you are being unreasonable in your expectations. There will be a percentage of folks capable of exceeding the limitations of any product.
Perhaps if you spent your resources and time improving the car rather than in the lawyers office you would have the most capable car at the track..(if you don't already?).....Seriously how far can the Z be off the mark at your skill level? What an extra cooler or two? Maybe a $1000 bucks or so? Certainly less of a commitment in time and funds than a law suit.
When in all your life have you been able to show up at a track with an unmodified vehicle, be competitive and not expect to eventually exceed the limitations of the car?
And when have you been able to take a car to the track abuse it in a racetrack environment and drive it the local dealer for warranty service and not be denied?
I get it, you are one of the few that can exceed the cars limitations on a hot day. Many think you are being unreasonable in your expectations. There will be a percentage of folks capable of exceeding the limitations of any product.
Perhaps if you spent your resources and time improving the car rather than in the lawyers office you would have the most capable car at the track..(if you don't already?).....Seriously how far can the Z be off the mark at your skill level? What an extra cooler or two? Maybe a $1000 bucks or so? Certainly less of a commitment in time and funds than a law suit.
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Too many videos posted on YouTube showing the exact opposite for the M7 cars. Including those in the law suit brings the whole thing into question. Hell, I just posted a very good video showing how the 15 Z06 meets the goals that GM set and advertised. Ran 438 track miles over 3 days and only had a performance issue during the last session of the last day. The ambient temp was in the low 90s but the surging may have been caused by something else. Even with the surging I was still one of the fastest cars on the track for the half hour I was on track. I got off track because both the car and I were running out of gas.
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