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Old 07-06-2017, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
It was at either Pacific Raceways or The Ridge Motorsports Park. Both tracks will let you run verts without a roll bar depending on if it has built in roll over protection from the factory and the year of the car.

And just and fyi, I was at Pacific Raceways today and witnessed multiple convertibles running with the top down including Miatas and a Turbo S.
Will those two tracks let a convertible run without factory "roll over protection"? If they do, what is the criteria that determines if a roll bar has to be installed in a convertible before it is allowed on the track?

Also, what are the speeds at those two tracks?

Why don't all tracks allow convertibles to run without roll bars(or factory roll over protection)?

Are the tracks that require a roll bar just a bunch of meanies that don't want people to have fun with their convertibles?

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So does my Rover... this pic doesn't make it very clear but there are heat exchangers in the front corners, kind of like the LG package, and they then vent into the wheelwell rather than dumping all the heat back into the engine compartment.

It's "only" a 510hp setup, but it works great.


Your Rover eh ? If it is a vehicle you own why are you swiping pics off the internet ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Range-Rover-...-/182372099884
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
It was at either Pacific Raceways or The Ridge Motorsports Park. Both tracks will let you run verts without a roll bar depending on if it has built in roll over protection from the factory and the year of the car.

And just and fyi, I was at Pacific Raceways today and witnessed multiple convertibles running with the top down including Miatas and a Turbo S.
No one is taking a vert to a track and running it anywhere near as hard as the coupe Z06.

From Pacific Raceways:
"a roll bar is necessary if running quicker than 13.49 and a roll cage if quicker than 10.99 or 135 mph."

EDIT:
oh, and Verts can only go on the drag strip, according to them.

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Well, it took 41 pages for the personal attacks, bickering and off topic stuff to come up.

This is a Warning....if this persists, the thread will be closed and Summer vacations will be handed out.
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Well, it took 41 pages for the personal attacks, bickering and off topic stuff to come up.

This is a Warning....if this persists, the thread will be closed and Summer vacations will be handed out.
Steven...cant tell if this is an acknowledgment or admonishment....
41 pages around here is pretty good!
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Originally Posted by ZenicaPA
No one is taking a vert to a track and running it anywhere near as hard as the coupe Z06.

From Pacific Raceways:
"a roll bar is necessary if running quicker than 13.49 and a roll cage if quicker than 10.99 or 135 mph."

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oh, and Verts can only go on the drag strip, according to them.
Yeah ok. So why is it that I have seen multiple Miatas, a Turbo S, a ZL1, and S200s run with the top down. They probably haven't updated their website. The racing school that operates at the track let's people with the top down (the road course) and so does the track itself.

And here's picture evidence since you don't believe me and don't know what you're talking about:





Originally Posted by JoesC5
Will those two tracks let a convertible run without factory "roll over protection"? If they do, what is the criteria that determines if a roll bar has to be installed in a convertible before it is allowed on the track?

Also, what are the speeds at those two tracks?

Why don't all tracks allow convertibles to run without roll bars(or factory roll over protection)?

Are the tracks that require a roll bar just a bunch of meanies that don't want people to have fun with their convertibles?
Did you read my post? I literally stated that if a convertible has roll over protection from the factory, they are able to run with the top down. As far as the roll bar, that is checked over by whoever is running the event.

At Pacific depending on the car, you can get up to 140-150 before the kink in the front straight. At the Ridge it's similar except for no kink, so you can run a few miles per hour higher.

I don't know about other tracks. All I know is our tracks are fairly lenient as long as the car has factory roll over protection or a roll bar.
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Let's reiterate---the thread is for the GM lawsuit NOT some meaningless unrelated juvenile bickering. For all of us who actually want to discuss take your silly debate to private messages. Unlike GM the report button here works fast !
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
You need to get your facts straight before posting.

Volvo said that their 2019's will be either hybrid or powered solely by batteries. For a car to be a hybrid, and not powered only by batteries, it needs an ICE.

Volvo is not dumping the gas engine; they are just not going to build cars that are powered ONLY by a gas engine.
Except didn't I put a question mark by the autonomous! It will be at least somewhat autonomous.
I would have fixed that since its been all over the news today.
I was too lazy yesterday and it didn't take away from point so I didn't feel the need to check it. My point seems to be shared by the Moderator now too.
Anyways, 'cool-imagine the torque in that little bad boy 2.0 liter with an electric motor.
Well, that's if the Chinese Volvo doesn't stop supporting the soon to be beat-on N. Koreans.
I'm looking forward to that as much as the new autonomousness Vette annihilating The Ring!


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ACS, Buttonwillow, SOW, WSIR, and even hoighty toighty Laguna Seca all allow S2000's to run without additionl roll protection. On the other hand, its ludicrous not to have it IMHO.
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^^^ But, let me quickly say that your neck looks crushed with that set-up! Roll bar?

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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Well, it took 41 pages for the personal attacks, bickering and off topic stuff to come up.

This is a Warning....if this persists, the thread will be closed and Summer vacations will be handed out.

I vote to close and lock the thread. Its useless and brings the quality of the forum down.
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I don't agree. The noise will eventually settle down and it may be a good place to get information about the legal situation.
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Originally Posted by 5thGear
I vote to close and lock the thread. Its useless and brings the quality of the forum down.
You are spot on. The thread was a notification so those who were unaware of it's existence and wanted to sign on could do so.

What followed was a mass whine, a lot of the time by people who don't even own a C7 Z06 and/or don't ever see a racetrack of any kind.

Every time someone who has actually been on a track and didn't overheat posts, the trolls appear.

Closing this thread may at a minimum give the trolls time to pursue something meaningful in their apparently sad lives.
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Well, it took 41 pages for the personal attacks, bickering and off topic stuff to come up.

This is a Warning....if this persists, the thread will be closed and Summer vacations will be handed out.
LOCK IT I love my car problems and all
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
I don't agree. The noise will eventually settle down and it may be a good place to get information about the legal situation.
Agree. The Trolls can take a Vacation. The Lawsuit is a Reality and eventually there will be updates to discuss.
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I vote to close and lock the thread. Its useless and brings the quality of the forum down.

Disagree as it does not meet the criteria for being closed. Not yet at least.

Being butt-hurt about a $10K hit to your resale value doesnt qualify either.....
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
Yeah ok. So why is it that I have seen multiple Miatas, a Turbo S, a ZL1, and S200s run with the top down. They probably haven't updated their website.

I sent an email, asked a few questions and posted their reply.

I did not rely on website information.

A picture of a car on a track does not tell you one way or the other if that driver is compliant with track policy regarding the "roll bar if running quicker than 13.49 and a roll cage if quicker than 10.99 or 135 mph." which makes a big difference in the argument that a convertible corvette Z06 was driven hard on a track.

Where do those images show which track they were taken at?
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Originally Posted by ZenicaPA
I sent an email, asked a few questions and posted their reply.

I did not rely on website information.

A picture of a car on a track does not tell you one way or the other if that driver is compliant with track policy regarding the "roll bar if running quicker than 13.49 and a roll cage if quicker than 10.99 or 135 mph." which makes a big difference in the argument that a convertible corvette Z06 was driven hard on a track.

Where do those images show which track they were taken at?
Who cares about their roll bar policy for the drag strip? I'm talking road course. Also I took those pictures, so I know exactly where they were taken.

Edit: since you probably won't believe that I took those pictures at Pacific, watch this video around the 34-37 second mark. You'll see the exact location.


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So, I was driving my wife's Impala the other day and...
Oh wait, wrong section.

So, I was driving my C7 convertible the other and started thinking: "I sure hope this class action suit about the A8's get's off the ground..."
Oh wait, there's no class action about the A8....and I have a manual.

So, I was driving my C7 convertible the other day and started thinking: "I sure hope this class action suit about Z06's overheating gets off the ground...."
Oh wait, I have a Stingray.

Well, I think they should allow convertibles and Impalas on the track. There, now I'm part of this thread. What a relief.

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