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Old 06-24-2017, 07:15 PM
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I'm amazed at how much money you have to load into a GTR to really have it be a monster...
Old 06-24-2017, 09:24 PM
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yep, that's a true comment BooSSted. It's an ultra low production car and the tuners that play with it have a very select audience and their charges are high...almost obscene sometimes! Beyond that, it takes a lot of money to keep the car in warranty and satisfy Nissan, so if there is a problem, they cover it. Blow the transmission for whatever reason and if it's not been "maintained" according to the warranty/maintenance guidelines, you're looking at a $22,000 bill for a new transmission. Sadly, that's pretty much what happens with most German, Italian, UK and Japanese "super" cars. That's one of the main reasons I switched to the Z06....just plain American muscle, runs like hell and it's reasonably bullet proof.

Question for Taimur....never heard of an FOB GT-R....what's FOB stand for?
Old 06-24-2017, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tzoid9
Question for Taimur....never heard of an FOB GT-R....what's FOB stand for?
FOB = Full Bolt on
Usually consists of Intake, full turbo back Exhaust with Catless Downpipe, bigger injectors and fuel pump to support E85, tune.
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Next, Mr. Wulverine, you were kind enough to include a YouTube article on the Alpha 9. You do realize, what you have there is a 2009 GT-R with an Alpha 9 package, what vintage Alpha 9 package, I don't know. All at crank HP and stock, the 2008 and 2009 GT-R's were rated at 480 HP, the 2010 and 2011 rated at 485 HP, the 2012 at 530 HP, the 2013 thru 2016 at 545 HP (except the Nismo model at 600 HP) and the 2017 at 565 HP. A 2013 and newer GT-R Alpha 9 produces more everything that a 2009 Alpha 9....considerably quicker. Now, Warp Factor, you are correct and I am wrong, the Alpha 9 package on a stock engine is making around 800 HP, my mistake. Unfortunately, the crazies I knew that had Alpha 9 packages all had the internals of the engine changed over and those cars were animals.
Is that for the "vintage" stock motor pump gas Alpha 9 package on the 2009's as you claim (which came directly from AMS's site) or the state of the art stock motor pump gas Alpha 9 package on the 2017 GTR?

Do you might also think the power jump from 2009 to 2017 is irrelevant because the Alpha 9 package replaces those stock components anyways and AMS limits it to 800 at the crank for safety or is that crazy talk?

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Old 06-26-2017, 09:18 AM
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Wulverine...I emailed one of the people I know who has an Alpha 9 and this is what he responded back with. I still believe a slightly modded Z06 would be no match for the Alpha 9 GTR, but you can believe what you wish.
" drove a flex fuel Alpha9 with a built engine and Shep 2.5 for two years. It made 780 on pump and 900 on E85 to the wheel. Great car to enjoy on the street. I ran consistent 9.7 to 9.5 at the track driving it home without a hiccup. I would highly recommend it as the perfect street package for 90% of GTR owners."
I think we all understand "the devil is in the details" and unfortunately, I have none of them. What I simply know and have seen is that an Alpha 9 is crazy fast and a formidable opponent to a modified Z06. Nice arguing with ya!
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Originally Posted by Wulverine
No such thing as an 06 GTR.
Sorry, 16 GTR
Old 06-26-2017, 11:55 AM
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I've seen Alpha 9 GTR's run in the high 9's at 138-141mph at my local drag strip. That's way too much for a CAI/TB/Xpipe car like mine to compete with.

A pulley'd, meth injected, cat deleted, tuned A8 Z06 should be a good run for an Alpha 9 in the quarter.

Don't know about 60-130 but the 1/4 mile trap speeds lead me to believe it could be similar.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
Sorry, 16 GTR
No issues brother.
Old 06-26-2017, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Is2scooby
I've seen Alpha 9 GTR's run in the high 9's at 138-141mph at my local drag strip. That's way too much for a CAI/TB/Xpipe car like mine to compete with.

A pulley'd, meth injected, cat deleted, tuned A8 Z06 should be a good run for an Alpha 9 in the quarter.

Don't know about 60-130 but the 1/4 mile trap speeds lead me to believe it could be similar.
The GTR is going to benefit from launching consistently and getting power down from a stop because of AWD. Once you are going 60+ mph, aerodynamics and the RWD platform is going to be better and help reel that AWD GTR in. If you are facing a GTR - do it from a roll because the AWD won't help it, and will hurt it at 60+ mph vs a rwd car, and the aerodynamics of the c7 are greater compared to a GTR.

My buddies car was running 93 octane, and didn't have the full internals done. Maybe that is why he's running 660whp. He is on a conservative tune for running 93 pump. Either way - regardless if its an alpha, beta, phi kappa, or a whatever. This is in reference to an R35 2013+ GTR on 93 octane making 660whp - call it any package you want lol

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Old 06-26-2017, 04:32 PM
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Good advice. Thanks! :-)

Right now, with my CAI/TB/Xpipe/DR car I'm a decent race for FBO+e85 GTR. I have seen them running 10.3-10.6 at SRP while I run 10.5's.

Once they upgrade the turbos (and eventually the internals when a rod bends) and get into "Alpha 9" territory that's when they turn into rocketships that get booted for not having rollbars. LOL

*NSFW Language*
Alpha 9 running a 9.7 @ SRP:

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Old 06-26-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Is2scooby
Good advice. Thanks! :-)

Right now, with my CAI/TB/Xpipe/DR car I'm a decent race for FBO+e85 GTR. I have seen them running 10.3-10.6 at SRP while I run 10.5's.

Once they upgrade the turbos (and eventually the internals when a rod bends) and get into "Alpha 9" territory that's when they turn into rocketships that get booted for not having rollbars. LOL

*NSFW Language*
Alpha 9 running a 9.7 @ SRP:
What are you trapping at 10.5? and using 93 octane?
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The car trapped 132.76 on my 10.55 pass. It trapped 132.99 on a different day.

We only have 91 octane here in Cali so I fortify with Torco.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1593684984

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Originally Posted by Is2scooby
The car trapped 132.76 on my 10.55 pass. It trapped 132.99 on a different day.

We only have 91 octane here in Cali so I fortify with Torco.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1593684984
Nice runs. Do you get it up to 93 octane or closer to 100 octane with the torco?
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Thanks! I'd love to try and make some runs in mineshaft air at MIR or PBIR or even Atco but we do what we can out here on the left coast. ;-)

I dump 1/2 a can into 1/2 a tank of gas which is 16oz in about 9.5 gallons of fuel which supposedly equates to 95-96 octane.
Old 10-26-2017, 04:21 PM
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Sorry OP, you aren't running with a A9 GTR. Lol. - FWIW, Ive owned 3 GTRs, 2 C6Z06s (1 nitrous, 1 supercharged), 2 ZR1s ( both in the 9s in 1/4 ), and now a A8 C7Z.

All 3 of my GTRs were FBO/Flex Fuel. Stock motor, turbos, trans. While a local friend has a pulley, intake, flex fuel, tune, A8 C7Z, we ran from a 50 roll. My Full bolt on stock turbo/motor/trans gtr pulled him 1/2-3/4 of a car multiple times.

Sorry man. Your buddy is full of doodoo, lol. Clearly, I'm not biased as to what I've owned, just stating facts. A FBO/Flex GTR generally make 625-650whp. Even the smallest upgraded stock frame GTR will make 700 minimum on pump and trap 140.

- PS - I work for a GTR company. Lol.
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:22 PM
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I had just a Halltech intake for mods on my 1 lz Z06 M7.

I was getting on the I5 on ramp with no traffic present about 1 am or so and a white GTR chased me up the on ramp. The car was had loud exhaust not sure of the mods if any. WE went 3 honks from a 50 mph roll. I watched him move first. I was in it till 140 and they getting small in the mirror.

We know stock to stock the Z wins the power to weight contest. We can mod any car. The new 2.9 Whipple 1000 hp on the Z06 will be a hand full for about any GTR!



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