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Old 06-23-2017, 01:15 PM
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Default Mods needed to drag race a Porsche 911 S ?

A stock 911S will kill a stock ZO6 in a drag race. AWD > RWD. So drag radials are a must to Launch. Even though they weigh about the same and the 911 is rated at 580Hp, the turbo torque/hp curve has more acceleration. What would you add to the ZO6 to get another 60-75 rwhp to get the advantage ?
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A 911S has 580hp?
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http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/91...turesandspecs/

Yes, But they launch on boost like a rocket.
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Originally Posted by SD1
A 911S has 580hp?
A Turbo S ... Yes ...
But even still I wouldn't worry much about the car. Add a tire and it should be a drivers race. Add the famous FBO or 3 Mod and you'll be smashing a stock Porsche' ...
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According to Car and Driver's instrumented testing, the Porsche is slower in every regard. AWD does make the Porsche idiot proof which does explain some of the folks I see driving them. $191K is also sobering for some. I think C/D nailed it on their rankings.


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911 turbo S is much quicker than a ZO6. C&D must be confused with a standard turbo 911.
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.caran...et-test-review

I know ZO6 'S at sea level tracks have gone quicker and faster, but on the same track C&D went 10.6 at 130mph in the Turbo S and 11.1 at 127 in an automatic ZO6 . I think DR's , air filter, tune and cat deletes should put the Z on top.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.caran...ll-test-review

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The S is a different animal. I agree that C/D was ranking a 911 turbo not the S.
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
A Turbo S ... Yes ...
But even still I wouldn't worry much about the car. Add a tire and it should be a drivers race. Add the famous FBO or 3 Mod and you'll be smashing a stock Porsche' ...
check out the thread I just made regarding the 3 mod bolt on. Quite happy with result against an Alpha 9 GTR
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There's nothing like a motor sitting on top of your drive wheels for traction let alone AWD system that's close to the Acura system. The Z06 will need more than HP...at least at the start. Maybe later down the 1/4 it can power it's way back but that has to be allot of power.
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Originally Posted by onfire
911 turbo S is much quicker than a ZO6. C&D must be confused with a standard turbo 911.
Quicker to sixty, slower in the quarter. Fun car though. I just can't get into Porsche styling, so the car's not relevant to me at all.

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Originally Posted by cvp33
According to Car and Driver's instrumented testing, the Porsche is slower in every regard. AWD does make the Porsche idiot proof which does explain some of the folks I see driving them. $191K is also sobering for some. I think C/D nailed it on their rankings.

They don't rank cars by performance...
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Originally Posted by Z0Sick6
check out the thread I just made regarding the 3 mod bolt on. Quite happy with result against an Alpha 9 GTR
Oh believe me, I trust you !! haha

It's comical the comments by some on how these two cars match up in a 1/4 mile race... Obviously an AWD system will allow a great launch, but that's short lived. I've seen many Talon TSi, EVo and Subbies crush cars .... For the first 60 feet, then the hammer drops.
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Agreed. But if we're cross-shopping cars that cost $115K more than what I paid for my 3LZ, then sanity went out the window within the first post. So what we're saying is that a $190K car, before options, is better than a $75K car. OK......the point? I believe this would hold true for boats, houses, wives.........

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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
Quicker to sixty, slower in the quarter. Fun car though. I just can't get into Porsche styling, so the car's not relevant to me at all.
Yes indeed, right with you there. Although the 911 has improved profoundly in the looks department it still just smacks Punch Buggy and a Punch Buggy with an insane price tag.
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Oh believe me, I trust you !! haha

It's comical the comments by some on how these two cars match up in a 1/4 mile race... Obviously an AWD system will allow a great launch, but that's short lived. I've seen many Talon TSi, EVo and Subbies crush cars .... For the first 60 feet, then the hammer drops.
Absolutely, anything decently quick that is AWD off the line is going to hammer a 600+ hp rwd car 95% of the time up to around 60 mph. Then its game over

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I have encountered several at the drags. They lay down good 60' times, but will not hang with the Z afterward. They only time I lost to one was when I hazed the tires from a poor burnout. They included 991 turbos both S and non S.

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Originally Posted by onfire
911 turbo S is much quicker than a ZO6. C&D must be confused with a standard turbo 911.
Agreed. 4 wheels digging in from a start can trump 2 almost anytime when talking about even remotely close performing cars.

I have run into 3 Turbo P-cars since owning my Z06. Unfortunately 2 where at a light from a stand still. My M7 didn't stand a chance they both put 2+ cars on me from word go. I did close some by the time we knocked off. PDK, 4 wheel drive and his gearing advantage was just to much for me to overcome.

The 3rd was at about 85 mph on the freeway. Totally different outcome. I am stage 1 by the way.

Nobody wins them all, all of the time.
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Originally Posted by dar02081961
Agreed. 4 wheels digging in from a start can trump 2 almost anytime when talking about even remotely close performing cars.

I have run into 3 Turbo P-cars since owning my Z06. Unfortunately 2 where at a light from a stand still. My M7 didn't stand a chance they both put 2+ cars on me from word go. I did close some by the time we knocked off. PDK, 4 wheel drive and his gearing advantage was just to much for me to overcome.

The 3rd was at about 85 mph on the freeway. Totally different outcome. I am stage 1 by the way.

Nobody wins them all, all of the time.

What is stage 1 ?
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On the same track, stock vs stock, 10.6 at 130 > 11.1 at 127. More mph and quicker. Not comparing value, looks, design, colors, just straight line performance from a stop and the mods needed to get the advantage. Dr's , tune and some bolt ons should get it done.


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