2018 ZR1 20mph Faster Ring Speed then C6 ZR1
06-29-2017, 03:00 AM
#1
2018 ZR1 20mph Faster Ring Speed then C6 ZR1
Based on distance/time analysis of recent 2018 ZR1 Nurburing testing video, it can be quite easily said that the new model is travelling around 20mph faster then the C6 ZR1 on the Nurburing straight. I have validated my testing criteria using the GM official Camaro ZL1 and C6 ZR1 video as well.
Speed is a measurement of distance traveled over time. By measuring points on the ZR1 testing video using Google earth, and than timing various cars from point to point, a reliable speed measurement can be obtained.
Near the end of the Nurburing, where the vehicles near top speed, two points stand out that are easily to record times from. By timing the 2018 ZR1 through those 2 points, a speed measurment is easilly calculated.
Over a distance of .13 miles, the ZR1 completes it in 2.25 seconds. This works out to 200mph. Over the same distance, the ZL1 completes it in 2.62 seconds, or 178mph..which is very close to what the speedometer in the video shows..validating the method. The 2012 ZR1 is 2.59 seconds, or 180mph.
A comparison of some other vehicles offers some amazing conclusions about the ZR1 horsepower levels. The ZL1 is 20 mph faster then the 5th gen Z28, and the 2018 ZR1 is 22 mph faster then the ZL1, and 20 mph faster then the C6 ZR1.
So, a 2018 ZR1 is to a C6 ZR1, as a 6th gen ZL1 (non 1LE) is to a 5th gen Z28.
It takes 145 more horsepower (and a 10 speed auto) for the ZL1 to put 20mph on the Z28 (which weighs the same). Thus, a 2018 ZR1 is easilly 100 horsepower more then a C6 ZR1 to put 20 mph on it down the straight.
My educated guess based on all this analysis is at least 755 horsepower for the 2018 ZR1.
A further analysis of gantry to bridge times puts the 2018 ZR1 3 seconds faster then the ZL1..and 2.5 seconds faster then the C6 ZR1.
Think about this...the ZL1 is traveling 181mph at top speed and the 2018 ZR1 is still 3 seconds faster over the same distance!!!!!
I have analyzed the Porsche 918 and Lambo Performante and the 2018 ZR1 is hitting a higher top speed at the ring then ANY of the rest.
Speed is a measurement of distance traveled over time. By measuring points on the ZR1 testing video using Google earth, and than timing various cars from point to point, a reliable speed measurement can be obtained.
Near the end of the Nurburing, where the vehicles near top speed, two points stand out that are easily to record times from. By timing the 2018 ZR1 through those 2 points, a speed measurment is easilly calculated.
Over a distance of .13 miles, the ZR1 completes it in 2.25 seconds. This works out to 200mph. Over the same distance, the ZL1 completes it in 2.62 seconds, or 178mph..which is very close to what the speedometer in the video shows..validating the method. The 2012 ZR1 is 2.59 seconds, or 180mph.
A comparison of some other vehicles offers some amazing conclusions about the ZR1 horsepower levels. The ZL1 is 20 mph faster then the 5th gen Z28, and the 2018 ZR1 is 22 mph faster then the ZL1, and 20 mph faster then the C6 ZR1.
So, a 2018 ZR1 is to a C6 ZR1, as a 6th gen ZL1 (non 1LE) is to a 5th gen Z28.
It takes 145 more horsepower (and a 10 speed auto) for the ZL1 to put 20mph on the Z28 (which weighs the same). Thus, a 2018 ZR1 is easilly 100 horsepower more then a C6 ZR1 to put 20 mph on it down the straight.
My educated guess based on all this analysis is at least 755 horsepower for the 2018 ZR1.
A further analysis of gantry to bridge times puts the 2018 ZR1 3 seconds faster then the ZL1..and 2.5 seconds faster then the C6 ZR1.
Think about this...the ZL1 is traveling 181mph at top speed and the 2018 ZR1 is still 3 seconds faster over the same distance!!!!! I have analyzed the Porsche 918 and Lambo Performante and the 2018 ZR1 is hitting a higher top speed at the ring then ANY of the rest.
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06-29-2017, 07:21 AM
#4
Melting Slicks
Edit: Sorry I was looking at the ZL1 1LE speed not the A8 ZL1. One comment I have is that it takes a much larger hp increase to get a cars straight away speed to jump from 180 to 200 mph than 160 to 180 mph. The force rewired grow exponentially with speed.
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06-29-2017, 09:33 AM
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What is interesting is the ZL1 1LE (with a manual trans) showing 173 mph on the speedo at the end of the straight, weighing about 300 lbs more than than the 2012 ZR1 which showed 183 mph, has a 'ring lap time 3 secs faster. However the ZL1 entered the straight at 114 mph vs 111 for the 2012 ZR, which shows what better tires & aero can do. Add 145 hp & the 2018 (?19) ZR should do a sub 7 min lap....???
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06-29-2017, 09:44 AM
#6
Team Owner
Also the 1/4 mile repairs and widening to the track since the 2012 C6 ZR1 was run(and the 2012 C6 Z06)has increased the speeds through that section resulting in lower times.
06-29-2017, 09:51 AM
#8
Based on distance/time analysis of recent 2018 ZR1 Nurburing testing video, it can be quite easily said that the new model is travelling around 20mph faster then the C6 ZR1 on the Nurburing straight. I have validated my testing criteria using the GM official Camaro ZL1 and C6 ZR1 video as well.
Speed is a measurement of distance traveled over time. By measuring points on the ZR1 testing video using Google earth, and then timing various cars from point to point, a reliable speed measurement can be obtained.
Near the end of the Nurburing, where the vehicles near top speed, two points stand out that are easily to record times from. By timing the 2018 ZR1 through those 2 points, a speed measurment is easilly calculated.
Over a distance of .13 miles, the ZR1 completes it in 2.25 seconds. This works out to 200mph. Over the same distance, the ZL1 completes it in 2.62 seconds, or 178mph..which is very close to what the speedometer in the video shows..validating the method. The 2012 ZR1 is 2.59 seconds, or 180mph.
A comparison of some other vehicles offers some amazing conclusions about the ZR1 horsepower levels. The ZL1 is 20 mph faster then the 5th gen Z28, and the 2018 ZR1 is 22 mph faster then the ZL1, and 20 mph faster then the C6 ZR1.
So, a 2018 ZR1 is to a C6 ZR1, as a 6th gen ZL1 (non 1LE) is to a 5th gen Z28.
It takes 145 more horsepower (and a 10 speed auto) for the ZL1 to put 20mph on the Z28 (which weighs the same). Thus, a 2018 ZR1 is easilly 100 horsepower more then a C6 ZR1 to put 20 mph on it down the straight.
My educated guess based on all this analysis is at least 755 horsepower for the 2018 ZR1.
A further analysis of gantry to bridge times puts the 2018 ZR1 3 seconds faster then the ZL1..and 2.5 seconds faster then the C6 ZR1.
Think about this...the ZL1 is traveling 181mph at top speed and the 2018 ZR1 is still 3 seconds faster over the same distance!!!!!
I have analyzed the Porsche 918 and Lambo Performante and the 2018 ZR1 is hitting a higher top speed at the ring then ANY of the rest.
Speed is a measurement of distance traveled over time. By measuring points on the ZR1 testing video using Google earth, and then timing various cars from point to point, a reliable speed measurement can be obtained.
Near the end of the Nurburing, where the vehicles near top speed, two points stand out that are easily to record times from. By timing the 2018 ZR1 through those 2 points, a speed measurment is easilly calculated.
Over a distance of .13 miles, the ZR1 completes it in 2.25 seconds. This works out to 200mph. Over the same distance, the ZL1 completes it in 2.62 seconds, or 178mph..which is very close to what the speedometer in the video shows..validating the method. The 2012 ZR1 is 2.59 seconds, or 180mph.
A comparison of some other vehicles offers some amazing conclusions about the ZR1 horsepower levels. The ZL1 is 20 mph faster then the 5th gen Z28, and the 2018 ZR1 is 22 mph faster then the ZL1, and 20 mph faster then the C6 ZR1.
So, a 2018 ZR1 is to a C6 ZR1, as a 6th gen ZL1 (non 1LE) is to a 5th gen Z28.
It takes 145 more horsepower (and a 10 speed auto) for the ZL1 to put 20mph on the Z28 (which weighs the same). Thus, a 2018 ZR1 is easilly 100 horsepower more then a C6 ZR1 to put 20 mph on it down the straight.
My educated guess based on all this analysis is at least 755 horsepower for the 2018 ZR1.
A further analysis of gantry to bridge times puts the 2018 ZR1 3 seconds faster then the ZL1..and 2.5 seconds faster then the C6 ZR1.
Think about this...the ZL1 is traveling 181mph at top speed and the 2018 ZR1 is still 3 seconds faster over the same distance!!!!! I have analyzed the Porsche 918 and Lambo Performante and the 2018 ZR1 is hitting a higher top speed at the ring then ANY of the rest.
06-29-2017, 09:58 AM
#9
Race Director
At high speed, aero has a big impact as does the HP. The reason the C6 ZR1 had a factory top speed of 205 and the C7 Z06 stage 3 aero is 186 shows that. The 2018 "ZR1" is running a rear wing and wings typically have less drag than spoilers. None the less, the car should turn very good times, and hopefully even be released by GM this time.
06-29-2017, 10:03 AM
#10
Also, the C6 ZR1 was run with the stock factory alignment and trim height, where as GM has been running the C7 with a non stock "track" alignment.
Also the 1/4 mile repairs and widening to the track since the 2012 C6 ZR1 was run(and the 2012 C6 Z06)has increased the speeds through that section resulting in lower times.
Also the 1/4 mile repairs and widening to the track since the 2012 C6 ZR1 was run(and the 2012 C6 Z06)has increased the speeds through that section resulting in lower times.
06-29-2017, 10:05 AM
#11
Le Mans Master
Interesting read but when it comes down to it, just more speculation about a car that no one knows a lot about. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 
06-29-2017, 10:33 AM
#13
Math was just not my strongest subject. Lol. With that said, OP analysis is a good read, I for one would of never came up with that. I really doubt that team corvette will allow team Camaro to out do them. I know the 1LE has posted a time but to be fair, let's give the Z06 and ZR1 a shot before my statement holds any water. That's if we ever get a time. Come on tadge, I started a big *** thread because of you! Lol
06-29-2017, 10:38 AM
#14
Burning Brakes
If the new ZL1 LE can do a 7:13 to 7:16 lap...then certainly the C7 Z06 is capable of more than that...prob sub 7:10 time...thus with 100hp more (possibly more) and that big wing on the back, I'd would speculate that a sub 7 sec time is their goal for the ZR1, and my guess is they will actually get it.
06-29-2017, 11:26 AM
#15
If the new ZL1 LE can do a 7:13 to 7:16 lap...then certainly the C7 Z06 is capable of more than that...prob sub 7:10 time...thus with 100hp more (possibly more) and that big wing on the back, I'd would speculate that a sub 7 sec time is their goal for the ZR1, and my guess is they will actually get it.
06-29-2017, 11:38 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
If the new ZL1 LE can do a 7:13 to 7:16 lap...then certainly the C7 Z06 is capable of more than that...prob sub 7:10 time...thus with 100hp more (possibly more) and that big wing on the back, I'd would speculate that a sub 7 sec time is their goal for the ZR1, and my guess is they will actually get it.
You mean sub 7 minute.
I'm sorry, i just don't think they will come close to that. They should be very happy if they break 7:10. That would be incredible.
06-29-2017, 12:17 PM
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Safety Car
06-29-2017, 12:33 PM
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Is your car a street legal production car that can be driven everywhere? Pretty silly to compare a race car to a factory street car, even if the factory street car is faster on the top end. If you wish to play that game, does your little car run just as fast cross country as my supercharged, 511 CI, 1,100 hp street legal off-road play truck? See how silly that question is?
Downforce kills.
06-29-2017, 12:41 PM
#20
Burning Brakes