So ZL1's don't pull RT, then why would a Z06?
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So ZL1's don't pull RT, then why would a Z06?
inyeresting point, my buddy's ZL1 doesn't pull right on burn outs while shifting gears -manual- so why would a z06? I ran through some gears recently on a burn out, didn't notice a right pull - mine is also a m7. However the videos I've watched and other threads on here that I've read, it's almost a real no no with this car. So question is, is it limited to A8's? Do we have different ediffs from the zl1? I know we run transaxles, but just seems like an oddity.
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08-13-2017, 11:13 AM
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The car doesn't pull to the right at all, that's inexperience talking. It depends on many factors and a ZL1 could do it too, Mustangs, any RWD car has the capacity to swing the rear around either way, left or right.
Sometimes even my drag car, which is about as symetrical as you can get, no "diff", etc and if there is a little more water on one tire than the other when starting the burn out then it can slightly drift left or right during the burnout. Road crown, pebbles, varying traction even right next to each other on such an uncontrolled surface as a public road, and 1000 other reasons can cause inconsistency.
We really need to drop these ideas people come up with. The observations are made in the least scientific conditions possible (just like comparing dyno pulls). You have to realize our cars are all nearly exactly the same. Everything else however, is different. Driver, road, location, weather, etc just to name 4 out of 10,000,000 reasons. So when a couple people say they "pull right" and a couple others say "mine doesn't do it" then there is no conclusion that can be drawn except that each experience is unique and it isn't the car itself that makes it unique.
Sometimes even my drag car, which is about as symetrical as you can get, no "diff", etc and if there is a little more water on one tire than the other when starting the burn out then it can slightly drift left or right during the burnout. Road crown, pebbles, varying traction even right next to each other on such an uncontrolled surface as a public road, and 1000 other reasons can cause inconsistency.
We really need to drop these ideas people come up with. The observations are made in the least scientific conditions possible (just like comparing dyno pulls). You have to realize our cars are all nearly exactly the same. Everything else however, is different. Driver, road, location, weather, etc just to name 4 out of 10,000,000 reasons. So when a couple people say they "pull right" and a couple others say "mine doesn't do it" then there is no conclusion that can be drawn except that each experience is unique and it isn't the car itself that makes it unique.
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I could be totally off base on this but a driving instructor at a local track who owns 3 c7 z06's had claimed he wadded one because the electronic axle is counter intuitive for a experienced driver to counter act, he mentioned the software in the car works counter to the old rear ends so he tracks his c6 z06.
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The car doesn't pull to the right at all, that's inexperience talking. It depends on many factors and a ZL1 could do it too, Mustangs, any RWD car has the capacity to swing the rear around either way, left or right.
Sometimes even my drag car, which is about as symetrical as you can get, no "diff", etc and if there is a little more water on one tire than the other when starting the burn out then it can slightly drift left or right during the burnout. Road crown, pebbles, varying traction even right next to each other on such an uncontrolled surface as a public road, and 1000 other reasons can cause inconsistency.
We really need to drop these ideas people come up with. The observations are made in the least scientific conditions possible (just like comparing dyno pulls). You have to realize our cars are all nearly exactly the same. Everything else however, is different. Driver, road, location, weather, etc just to name 4 out of 10,000,000 reasons. So when a couple people say they "pull right" and a couple others say "mine doesn't do it" then there is no conclusion that can be drawn except that each experience is unique and it isn't the car itself that makes it unique.
Sometimes even my drag car, which is about as symetrical as you can get, no "diff", etc and if there is a little more water on one tire than the other when starting the burn out then it can slightly drift left or right during the burnout. Road crown, pebbles, varying traction even right next to each other on such an uncontrolled surface as a public road, and 1000 other reasons can cause inconsistency.
We really need to drop these ideas people come up with. The observations are made in the least scientific conditions possible (just like comparing dyno pulls). You have to realize our cars are all nearly exactly the same. Everything else however, is different. Driver, road, location, weather, etc just to name 4 out of 10,000,000 reasons. So when a couple people say they "pull right" and a couple others say "mine doesn't do it" then there is no conclusion that can be drawn except that each experience is unique and it isn't the car itself that makes it unique.
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My car has never pulled right. 2016 A8
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Road crown... surface contaminants.. inertia... momentum.... That's why the "pull right under hard acceleration" such is a silly general statement.
never seen a drag car in a burnout run right? Or in the street? Just a C7 Z06? Lol. Come on.
never seen a drag car in a burnout run right? Or in the street? Just a C7 Z06? Lol. Come on.
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On the street, there's typically more debris toward the shoulder, than at the center of the road. So more torque will be applied to the road from the tire farthest from the shoulder, since it has the most traction. That can create some "torque-steering" problems in any posi or locking type rear end. It's nothing unique to the Corvette.
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I could be totally off base on this but a driving instructor at a local track who owns 3 c7 z06's had claimed he wadded one because the electronic axle is counter intuitive for a experienced driver to counter act, he mentioned the software in the car works counter to the old rear ends so he tracks his c6 z06.
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Good - thanks boys for adding to the topic. I thought it was BS too, but the posts and videos can make one a little tentative. I bought the car to push it and have fun.
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1: get a legitimate alignment that includes the vital rear caster. Never get an alignment without having that done as it's probably as important as anything else with this car. I'd highly recommend using the specs from the DSC thread; either the street or track, whichever you prefer;
2: install the DSC MRC shock controller. Best $1,200 you'll ever spend on the car.
Enjoy
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Do two things:
1: get a legitimate alignment that includes the vital rear caster. Never get an alignment without having that done as it's probably as important as anything else with this car. I'd highly recommend using the specs from the DSC thread; either the street or track, whichever you prefer;
2: install the DSC MRC shock controller. Best $1,200 you'll ever spend on the car.
Enjoy
1: get a legitimate alignment that includes the vital rear caster. Never get an alignment without having that done as it's probably as important as anything else with this car. I'd highly recommend using the specs from the DSC thread; either the street or track, whichever you prefer;
2: install the DSC MRC shock controller. Best $1,200 you'll ever spend on the car.
Enjoy
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Physics. A car under acceleration will twist to the right because that's the direction the engine is rotating, putting more weight on the right side of the car. The Vette may mitigate this more than other cars due to the fact that it's a body-on-frame which resists torsional flex (twisting) better than a unit-body (as the Camaro is), or other factors like the e-diff and suspension geomoetry may be working to control this as well.