3 Z06ZR1

You heard it here first that the A8 Z06 will still only be beat at the track by an A8 ZR1. The times of the M7 ZR1 will still be beat by the Z06 A8.
Because the A8 still delivers 30 percent more TQ than the M7 in first gear.

The ZR1 with 140 pounds more weight up front and wider front tires with the M7 will be a track car and will have trouble doing decent 60ft which it needs to beat the A8.
I say this with experience with both transmissions and looking at the fast list. The ZR1 with the M7 and less weight on the rear will be hard pressed to beat an A8 Z06.

hcvone

Maybe true but as long as they offer a manual corvette that's what will be in my garage, I'm thinking my ZR1 will be orange, look good sitting next to the Z06.

jaden61

He's talking ZR1 m7 vs Z06 A8
and your talking Oranges vs ______what??

Mike Jesse

How many threads does the Z06 forum need on this subject?

Spacewalker

Someone is salty......

3 Z06ZR1

I thought one thread on this subject would be ok since there is none. Forgot to check with you first sorry!
It that what it is?

Warp Factor

Yes, but same theme as his last thread on the topic.... that it hinges on the lower first gear ratio of the automatic.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-a8-to-m7.html

And he brought it up in even another thread just yesterday.

The guy seems to have some weird obsession with his claim.

Mike Jesse

Since the ZR1 is not offered yet, how can the claim be made that the Z06 is quicker?
Same sh*t, different day.
Day in and day out.

3 Z06ZR1

The weird obsession is what over comes YOU on every single post I make! To chime in spew some nonsense while quoting my post since your argument was shot down that the gearing is NOT responsible for the A8 having the 60ft advantage over the M7. Still waiting for answer why it isn't??? When everyone knows the A8 is faster in the 1/4 mile.


Because of a few factors.
1. Again the A8 is quicker than the M7 in the Z06.

2. The Zr1 M7 vs Z06 m7 will have the same gearing, Same rear tire but will have slightly more rolling resistance from wider front times.

3. the extra 140 pounds on the front nose throws the weight balance more towards the front so it will hurt the rear wheel drive traction to some extent.
4. The Zr1 will have trouble launching in first with the M7.

Warp Factor

Once again, you're failing to take other pertinent factors into consideration.
Lets look just the M7 for a moment, to keep things simple. According to your theory, the M7 would be faster if it had a lower first gear, because this would produce higher rear-wheel torque. But that's not necessarily true. The engine itself has enough torque, that fastest 0-60 times and 60 foot times are likely to be obtained if there doesn't need to be a shift. It just so happens that this transmission in this car will do a little over 60 in first gear.

There's just one example of factors you tend to overlook.

Outlaw Joe

Go figure this person that started this craziness is a ZO6 owner and A8 is quicker than the M7 Z06 not so depends on the driver.

Mike Jesse

Hang on, you are about to get schooled.

LawrenceFromTorrance

Seems like a valid question. I'd like to know.

rob62

Mods, keep the peace by closing this now.

3 Z06ZR1

My facts are on the fast list! Stock to stock supported by GM themselves! The A8 rules on every measure. 60ft time included then look at the trap speeds in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile.

Facts are Facts!

Outlaw Joe

still comes down to the driver. my friend has an automatic Z and I have a manual Z and he can't keep up with me.

Outlaw Joe

that's only because 75% of the Z's out there automatics. anybody can drive an automatic but it takes a real man to drive a manual

ZR1Gerhardt

Yes the A8 is fast and your argument may be valid. However, the details of the car have not been officially released, so no one truly knows the answer. Heck, it may not even be offered as a manual trans, who knows.

Scott

Outlaw Joe

3 Z06ZR1

Sounds good and I do believe a well driven M7 can maybe take the A8 from a roll race of 40 and above. Removing the low gear advantage.
In this contest the M7 with the very high first now has a close ratio the rest of the way. And a HP advantage

But the all the facts from GM and our own drivers on the fast list show the A8 is faster in the 1/4 mile. Maybe you should go the track and see how you do. I have been to several tracks been there al least 3-4 times and the best sixty 60ft is about 1.9. Where stock A-8's do 1.5's all day. That should be all you need to know. It is all I need to see.