Installing ZR1 wing on a C7Z
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Installing ZR1 wing on a C7Z
The C&D article states everything aft of A pillars is the same on the ZR-1 and Z06 except for the wing and wheels.
It will be interesting to see if it will be easy to fit the wing on a C7Z. I'm thinking maybe just a ZR-1 bumper cover with "slots" for the wing mounts and the wing itself and associated hardware might be all that is needed.
PLEASE, I realize many don't care for the wing for cosmetic reasons. I'm interested in performance improvement(s) on track. I don't give a damn how it "looks". I'm hoping this thread can address the topic of installing to benefit the guys who use their cars on track and not digress into a discussion about cosmetics...
Rick
It will be interesting to see if it will be easy to fit the wing on a C7Z. I'm thinking maybe just a ZR-1 bumper cover with "slots" for the wing mounts and the wing itself and associated hardware might be all that is needed.
PLEASE, I realize many don't care for the wing for cosmetic reasons. I'm interested in performance improvement(s) on track. I don't give a damn how it "looks". I'm hoping this thread can address the topic of installing to benefit the guys who use their cars on track and not digress into a discussion about cosmetics...
Rick
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I've had some fun reactions to the little kid's handlebar tassels on my Harley. I even got some pretty pink ones for my wife's bike, but she won't let me put them on.
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Rick, I’m working on a true chassis mount wing for my local hardcore track C7Z buddy. Will cut two slits in the back bumpe 16” apart around the Corvette V flag. Easily removable since only 3 bolts on each legs and only about 1” of the base will protrude from the bumper of the wing is removed.
Prototype mock up 3 weeks ago. Waiting on a full carbon wing done so I can complete the mounting frame.
Wing is based off the Gallardo Super Trofeo
Prototype mock up 3 weeks ago. Waiting on a full carbon wing done so I can complete the mounting frame.
Wing is based off the Gallardo Super Trofeo
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I would think a body shop could cut the slots in your existing Z06 bummer. Would need wing and the mounting hardware installed (which would have bummer removed; and slots cut)
If you look at the Katech video of them building the car for SEMA, the TIKT wing uses existing bummer with installer cutting out the necessary slots.
If you look at the Katech video of them building the car for SEMA, the TIKT wing uses existing bummer with installer cutting out the necessary slots.
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Why not just install the WeaponsX wing?
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Weapons X sells the APR GTC-500 wing. This wing mounts to the deck lid of the car.
I would never mount a wing to a body panel, especially a composite panel like on the C7. Too much force and subsequent deflection.
Proper wings are mounted to the frame or other structural member of a vehicle. APR will disagree with me but how many real race/track cars do you see with a wing bolted to the rear deck/trunk. I see a lot of boy racer/ricer cars with this arrangement but no others.
I personally feel the APR wing is fine for cruisers/waxers/car show guys but not for high speed track usage.
Also, the ZR-1 wing was engineered and wind tunnel tested specifically for the C7. The APR is a generic wing and not specifically designed for our cars.
Rick
I would never mount a wing to a body panel, especially a composite panel like on the C7. Too much force and subsequent deflection.
Proper wings are mounted to the frame or other structural member of a vehicle. APR will disagree with me but how many real race/track cars do you see with a wing bolted to the rear deck/trunk. I see a lot of boy racer/ricer cars with this arrangement but no others.
I personally feel the APR wing is fine for cruisers/waxers/car show guys but not for high speed track usage.
Also, the ZR-1 wing was engineered and wind tunnel tested specifically for the C7. The APR is a generic wing and not specifically designed for our cars.
Rick
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TIKT makes an absurdly expensive wing that mounts to the frame. No idea on how it performs though.
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As far as the wing, been long time planned and I finally got around to doing the chassis mount. Planing on 1/2 the price of the current very expensive wing mentioned above.
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why not just bolt your mothers ironing board on their looks the same as is just about as functional for day to day use on the street
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If you think your mother's ironing board will cut it, by all means go for it.
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This seems potentially fraught with folly. The reason I say that is: aero balance. If that wing does, indeed produce the epic amounts of downforce we expect it to, the front end of the ZR1 (including its extra 140lbs) will be just as important: balance at speed. Otherwise you're probably going to run into a very light steering wheel and that oh-so-unsettling push on track.
Approach this one with care. Don't approach it like the aftermarket, as they generally don't have the aero knowledge nor testing facilities to verify and validate.
Approach this one with care. Don't approach it like the aftermarket, as they generally don't have the aero knowledge nor testing facilities to verify and validate.
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worth considering but i can say i’d love more rear downforce. I’m running stage 3 up front and stage 2 out back. The rear end is always excited to rotate on me particularly entering a corner. Understeer is never a problem. I’ve been considering moving up to stage 3 in the back for this reason.
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This seems potentially fraught with folly. The reason I say that is: aero balance. If that wing does, indeed produce the epic amounts of downforce we expect it to, the front end of the ZR1 (including its extra 140lbs) will be just as important: balance at speed. Otherwise you're probably going to run into a very light steering wheel and that oh-so-unsettling push on track.
Approach this one with care. Don't approach it like the aftermarket, as they generally don't have the aero knowledge nor testing facilities to verify and validate.
Approach this one with care. Don't approach it like the aftermarket, as they generally don't have the aero knowledge nor testing facilities to verify and validate.
The level of drag with the stage 2 and 3 is much more than a true wing while produces 1/2 of the downforce.
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Frankly, the current stage 3 wicker provides a pretty decent amount of downforce - just look and the impact to the rear suspension with speed. They showed the data in the original lightning lap issue. It just does it with more drag than a wing.
Someone should tee up an Ask Tadge to describe the aero properties of the C7 ZR1 relative to the C7 Z06. By the time it gets picked the car will be announced.
Someone should tee up an Ask Tadge to describe the aero properties of the C7 ZR1 relative to the C7 Z06. By the time it gets picked the car will be announced.