Edelbrock 2650 for Z06?
11-15-2017, 03:01 PM
#1
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Edelbrock 2650 for Z06?
I have a 2300 Maggy on order but I was holding out a little hope that the 2650 may be coming for the Z06. Answer was no at least from a conversation with a Supercharger tech on the phone today from Edelbrock.
No offering on the 2650 it is too big and would require a hood change.
Does not sound like there will be one for the Z06.
At least not from Edelbrock. He said use the 2300!
No offering on the 2650 it is too big and would require a hood change.
Does not sound like there will be one for the Z06.
At least not from Edelbrock. He said use the 2300!
11-15-2017, 06:36 PM
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Melting Slicks
Well...they had ur order in hand that hasn't shipped. What would you do if he said, yes...we have one coming. Probably cancel, so his answer isn't surprising. The whipple 2.9 is out there and looks like it will fit under the stock hood. I can't imagine that the other PD blower mfrs wont step up to compete. I just hope they don't try to package it at the expense of airflow and cooling. A new hood isn't a dealbreaker for a lot of people. The 2300 blowers just haven't been that impressive to me. Everything that people have done with the 2300 can be done with the 1.7L...doesn't make sense to me, but it is what it is. In the end, the 2650 will probably be the hot ticket whenever it comes out. Great power potential and Eaton quality and reliability.
11-15-2017, 06:43 PM
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Well...they had ur order in hand that hasn't shipped. What would you do if he said, yes...we have one coming. Probably cancel, so his answer isn't surprising. The whipple 2.9 is out there and looks like it will fit under the stock hood. I can't imagine that the other PD blower mfrs wont step up to compete. I just hope they don't try to package it at the expense of airflow and cooling. A new hood isn't a dealbreaker for a lot of people. The 2300 blowers just haven't been that impressive to me. Everything that people have done with the 2300 can be done with the 1.7L...doesn't make sense to me, but it is what it is. In the end, the 2650 will probably be the hot ticket whenever it comes out. Great power potential and Eaton quality and reliability.
The 1.7 will not keep up with the 2300 Heartbeat which is significantly
lighter. less mass and less heat soak. Better cooling. Makes 980hp in the HARROP testing. Looking at the 2650 it needs for sure needs a hood and that is a deal breaker for me.
The 1.7 is not as good
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 11-15-2017 at 06:44 PM.
11-15-2017, 06:48 PM
#4
Melting Slicks
The 1.7 will not keep up with the 2300 Heartbeat which is significantly
lighter. less mass and less heat soak. Better cooling. Makes 980hp in the HARROP testing. Looking at the 2650 it needs for sure needs a hood and that is a deal breaker for me.
The 1.7 is not as good
lighter. less mass and less heat soak. Better cooling. Makes 980hp in the HARROP testing. Looking at the 2650 it needs for sure needs a hood and that is a deal breaker for me.
The 1.7 is not as good
Last edited by Earl H; 11-15-2017 at 06:50 PM.
11-15-2017, 06:53 PM
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From some of the 2300's that I have seen a some of the shops that use, IAT's are surprisingly high. I'm wondering if there were some design/engineering changes that allow it to package under the stock hood that might drive higher than expected temps. RE: heartbeat...lets move away from the theoretical/advertisements and show me one thats performing well at the track. Truth is, the 2300 can't be spun as high as the OEM stuff and still suffers alot of the same IAT issues (C7 version). I'm not necessarily saying that I am a fan of the 1.7..far from it, but the 2300 HB hasn't proven to any great extent to be that much better when pushed. If you can show different results (e.g. dyno and track), please share.
Weapon X is another!
Look at Katech as well ! There 2300's lots of new stuff for that blower as well maybe your not aware of!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 11-15-2017 at 06:58 PM.
11-16-2017, 07:31 PM
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update After doing more research Magnuson has a TVS 2650 Coming for Corvette in a compact unit
not available yet!
I will call them and see if they have a time line! 
not available yet!
I will call them and see if they have a time line!
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11-17-2017, 12:50 AM
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Burning Brakes
Yes they do, everybody has a 2650 rotor pack blower coming out and none will be out before the middle of next year if not later.
11-17-2017, 01:46 AM
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It is an impressive blower if you read the specs on it!
Can't due much needing more power till april anyway.
less power to spin and it puts better output and cooler ITA temps over even the 2.9.
11-17-2017, 11:16 AM
#10
I almost feel like it would be wise waiting for it if it will fit under the stock hood.
It is an impressive blower if you read the specs on it!
Can't due much needing more power till april anyway.
less power to spin and it puts better output and cooler ITA temps over even the 2.9.
It is an impressive blower if you read the specs on it!
Can't due much needing more power till april anyway.
less power to spin and it puts better output and cooler ITA temps over even the 2.9.
just joking with you. Did they say for sure that it will fit under the stock hood? I know that was a big thing for you. I know it might for other LT4 engines cars but the corvette has very little head room! Lol
11-17-2017, 11:46 AM
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But who wants to have the 2300 on for a month and what if the 2650 comes out and does fit under the hood. In nearly the same package.The 2.65 after doing more research is a killer blower. Which may be about the same price.
11-17-2017, 12:15 PM
#12
Melting Slicks
Last edited by Earl H; 11-17-2017 at 12:16 PM.
11-17-2017, 01:00 PM
#13
Summer 2018 is what Magnacharger is saying for the Underhood LS/LT 2650
Last edited by lt1z; 11-17-2017 at 01:00 PM.
11-17-2017, 01:38 PM
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You must be short on entertainment the 2300 is still a good choiceand better than you think. The 2.65 is just a huge advance with the 170 degree twist. I'm just doing my research because I will make a purchase or two where your just blowing hot air around.
11-18-2017, 02:29 AM
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Amazing numbers but wonder how they are gettin the fuel in there! Might be running additional port injectors or something.
Also would like to see the intercooler as that thing looks to be sitting very high. Must be a big brick beneath it!
11-18-2017, 05:52 AM
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That thing might just poke through the hood a little on the C7 though! Lol
Amazing numbers but wonder how they are gettin the fuel in there! Might be running additional port injectors or something.
Also would like to see the intercooler as that thing looks to be sitting very high. Must be a big brick beneath it!
Amazing numbers but wonder how they are gettin the fuel in there! Might be running additional port injectors or something.
Also would like to see the intercooler as that thing looks to be sitting very high. Must be a big brick beneath it!
05-23-2018, 05:15 AM
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Well...they had ur order in hand that hasn't shipped. What would you do if he said, yes...we have one coming. Probably cancel, so his answer isn't surprising. The whipple 2.9 is out there and looks like it will fit under the stock hood. I can't imagine that the other PD blower mfrs wont step up to compete. I just hope they don't try to package it at the expense of airflow and cooling. A new hood isn't a dealbreaker for a lot of people. The 2300 blowers just haven't been that impressive to me. Everything that people have done with the 2300 can be done with the 1.7L...doesn't make sense to me, but it is what it is. In the end, the 2650 will probably be the hot ticket whenever it comes out. Great power potential and Eaton quality and reliability.
I can say I'm very very impressed with the Magnuson 2300.
I took it for a 3 week 2,000 plus drive and it still is 1600 miles away waiting to be driven more before it comes home in late summer.
Car is very fast!
So impressed I'm ordering another for my A8 Z06. Your totally wrong on the 1.7 your not getting the power from it the 2300 makes with no meth. Just pump gas to pump gas NOT happening. The more you spin the 1.7 the more heat you get.
The 2300 spins slower and delivers much more air and a cooler charge. The 2300 TQ is felt big time over 1.7.
The 2300 is the hot ticket because to do the 2650 is at least 5 times or more the money outlay.
Fuel system and the new hood as well as new clutch, half shafts etc. for your car when you step to the 1000hp level.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 05-23-2018 at 05:28 AM.
05-23-2018, 07:54 AM
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Le Mans Master
From some of the 2300's that I have seen a some of the shops that use, IAT's are surprisingly high. I'm wondering if there were some design/engineering changes that allow it to package under the stock hood that might drive higher than expected temps. RE: heartbeat...lets move away from the theoretical/advertisements and show me one thats performing well at the track. Truth is, the 2300 can't be spun as high as the OEM stuff and still suffers alot of the same IAT issues (C7 version). I'm not necessarily saying that I am a fan of the 1.7..far from it, but the 2300 HB hasn't proven to any great extent to be that much better when pushed. If you can show different results (e.g. dyno and track), please share.
Take a bone stock c7z measure the time from zero to 150 — The c7z notoriously falls flat on its face after 130.
Then install the Maggy 2300 on that same c7z06 and measure 0 to 150.
100 percent stock a c7z06 is about 18 seconds zero to 150.
a 100 percent stock c7zr1 is Approx 14 seconds zero to 150.
a 100 percent stock c6zr1 is about 16 seconds 0 to 150
a 100 percent stock c6z06 is about 17 seconds zero to 150.
maybe the guy 3z06z1– on this thread with the maggy on his c7z can measure a zero to 150 and post it here.
Possibly the maggy along with the big tin can intercooler tank a forum vendor is marketing is the answer and for under 8k a c7z06 will at least keep up with a c6z06 on the big end with the goal of getting near a c6zr1 or better then a c6zr1 on the big end.
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 05-23-2018 at 08:29 AM.
05-23-2018, 10:23 AM
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That thing might just poke through the hood a little on the C7 though! Lol
Amazing numbers but wonder how they are gettin the fuel in there! Might be running additional port injectors or something.
Also would like to see the intercooler as that thing looks to be sitting very high. Must be a big brick beneath it!
Amazing numbers but wonder how they are gettin the fuel in there! Might be running additional port injectors or something.
Also would like to see the intercooler as that thing looks to be sitting very high. Must be a big brick beneath it!
Tuned down to 17 lbs, they ran 9.2 (I think) full interior trim in Vegas