BMS filter install
#1
BMS filter install
Received my BMs filter today. Pretty simple install. Took around 20 minutes.
First impression is quicker throttle response. This coupled with my Katech TB and Diablo 93 oct tune have pretty much eliminated the throttle lag.
Now to the technical stuff. After 20 miles i decided to log the car with the diablosport intune I2. I’m not sure what to think of the numbers. Can someone explain what I am seeing? Looks like the MAF sensor mass airflow(g/s) is less with the BMS filter than with the stock filter. Is this correct? I figured i would see a bigger number with the BMS filter.
Also noticed 4 degrees of knock retard in the 6000 rpm range. I did not notice any blinking lights on the dashboard so I’m assuming that’s a good thing. Should i richen up the A/f using the diablo intune to eliminate the knock? Or should I just leave it alone? Please see attached pictures. I will drive it some more tomorrow and complete another log.
Thank you
First impression is quicker throttle response. This coupled with my Katech TB and Diablo 93 oct tune have pretty much eliminated the throttle lag.
Now to the technical stuff. After 20 miles i decided to log the car with the diablosport intune I2. I’m not sure what to think of the numbers. Can someone explain what I am seeing? Looks like the MAF sensor mass airflow(g/s) is less with the BMS filter than with the stock filter. Is this correct? I figured i would see a bigger number with the BMS filter.
Also noticed 4 degrees of knock retard in the 6000 rpm range. I did not notice any blinking lights on the dashboard so I’m assuming that’s a good thing. Should i richen up the A/f using the diablo intune to eliminate the knock? Or should I just leave it alone? Please see attached pictures. I will drive it some more tomorrow and complete another log.
Thank you
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#3
Received my BMs filter today. Pretty simple install. Took around 20 minutes.
First impression is quicker throttle response. This coupled with my Katech TB and Diablo 93 oct tune have pretty much eliminated the throttle lag.
Now to the technical stuff. After 20 miles i decided to log the car with the diablosport intune I2. I’m not sure what to think of the numbers. Can someone explain what I am seeing? Looks like the MAF sensor mass airflow(g/s) is less with the BMS filter than with the stock filter. Is this correct? I figured i would see a bigger number with the BMS filter.
Also noticed 4 degrees of knock retard in the 6000 rpm range. I did not notice any blinking lights on the dashboard so I’m assuming that’s a good thing. Should i richen up the A/f using the diablo intune to eliminate the knock? Or should I just leave it alone? Please see attached pictures. I will drive it some more tomorrow and complete another log.
Thank you
First impression is quicker throttle response. This coupled with my Katech TB and Diablo 93 oct tune have pretty much eliminated the throttle lag.
Now to the technical stuff. After 20 miles i decided to log the car with the diablosport intune I2. I’m not sure what to think of the numbers. Can someone explain what I am seeing? Looks like the MAF sensor mass airflow(g/s) is less with the BMS filter than with the stock filter. Is this correct? I figured i would see a bigger number with the BMS filter.
Also noticed 4 degrees of knock retard in the 6000 rpm range. I did not notice any blinking lights on the dashboard so I’m assuming that’s a good thing. Should i richen up the A/f using the diablo intune to eliminate the knock? Or should I just leave it alone? Please see attached pictures. I will drive it some more tomorrow and complete another log.
Thank you
It’s safe to say this filter is coming off ASAP!! I am not liking all this knocking. Logged the car again tonight. My car seems to not like it.
#4
Former Vendor
The filter or an intake is not likely to increase your knock count, as the boost increase is going to be less than 1psi, but I have no idea how your tuning is setup and your logging interface is difficult to read.
I'd ditch that tune and retune with HP Tuners. If you are knocking across multiple cylinders you probably need less timing advance in those areas. You may also need to rescale your MAF input to match the higher flow intake. If you post an HP Tuners log I can give you tuning pointers based on that data.
I'd ditch that tune and retune with HP Tuners. If you are knocking across multiple cylinders you probably need less timing advance in those areas. You may also need to rescale your MAF input to match the higher flow intake. If you post an HP Tuners log I can give you tuning pointers based on that data.
Last edited by Terry@BMS; 11-19-2017 at 11:39 PM.
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#5
The filter or an intake is not likely to increase your knock count, as teh boost increase is going to be less than 1psi, but I have no idea how your tuning is setup. Your logging interface is difficult to read. I'd ditch that tune and retune with HP Tuners. If you post an HP Tuners log I can give you tuning pointers based on that data.
Last edited by RIRENTERC6; 11-19-2017 at 11:45 PM.
#6
Former Vendor
I looked at one of their files once and it was fairly awful. Already voided the warranty tuning, why not use HP tuners so its tuned right?
I would guess what you need to fix on that tune file is the MAF scaling. Raise it so your MAF reading is the same with the filter as it was with the stock filter.
I would guess what you need to fix on that tune file is the MAF scaling. Raise it so your MAF reading is the same with the filter as it was with the stock filter.
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#7
I looked at one of their files once and it was fairly awful. Already voided the warranty tuning, why not use HP tuners so its tuned right?
I would guess what you need to fix on that tune file is the MAF scaling. Raise it so your MAF reading is the same with the filter as it was with the stock filter.
I would guess what you need to fix on that tune file is the MAF scaling. Raise it so your MAF reading is the same with the filter as it was with the stock filter.
#8
Le Mans Master
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You can always get a custom remote tune with your Diablo InTune from DiabLew. I'm very happy with his work on my car, and the process is quite easy (and affordable). He goes by 06MonteSS on here.
http://www.diablewtune.com/
http://www.diablewtune.com/
#10
You can always get a custom remote tune with your Diablo InTune from DiabLew. I'm very happy with his work on my car, and the process is quite easy (and affordable). He goes by 06MonteSS on here.
http://www.diablewtune.com/
http://www.diablewtune.com/
#11
Former Vendor
#12
Safety Car
Resurrecting and old thread. The reason for the knocking is because the BMS filter causes the MAF to read less air which directly results in a leaner air fuel mixture. The Diablo tune already leans out the Air Fuel so pairing that with the BMS would make it run too lean and will knock. You need to have the MAF calibration changed to bring the Air Fuel back in line. There is enough room in fueling with the stock tune to run just the BMS filter, but not with the Diablo tune.
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#13
What results did you get with the custom Diablo tune & the BMS Filter? I have a 2016 Z06 and experienced the same type of knock retard with both the 91 and 93 octane tunes.
#14
Burning Brakes
A couple of years ago when I bought a Diablo tuner from Lew I later found he would not do a remote custom tune on a supercharged car. Has this changed?? Had a problem with the Diablo tuner and when it was returned for repair they wiped my stock tune. Car ran great with the Diablo 93 octane tune, intake, midpipe and ported TB. But when I lost my stock tune and thus my warranty I just went ahead and did a HP Tuners tune.
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#15
Resurrecting and old thread. The reason for the knocking is because the BMS filter causes the MAF to read less air which directly results in a leaner air fuel mixture. The Diablo tune already leans out the Air Fuel so pairing that with the BMS would make it run too lean and will knock. You need to have the MAF calibration changed to bring the Air Fuel back in line. There is enough room in fueling with the stock tune to run just the BMS filter, but not with the Diablo tune.
#16
Safety Car
The higher knock count could also just mean you're making more power now and would benefit from higher octane. I'm not familiar with the Diablo tune though but when doing any tuning the tuner will take in to account whether or not you have an intake. The BMS drop in filter is so good it's equivalent to an aftermarket intake as far as tuning goes.
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