Need opinions on damaged Z06 for track use
#1
Need opinions on damaged Z06 for track use
Hello Guys
I wanted a C7 Z06 for a long time now but the actual prices in Europe are too much expensive and I still have my 991 4S.
A garage that I know gave me a good offer on a Damaged Z06 of 2015, manual gear box and 35000 miles on it. I usually don't buy an damaged car but this one could be a good option for a track tool
The garage tells me that the structure of the car is not damaged and there is only body parts to replace and the right rear arm + the wheel. The engine is running perfeclty and the car can move without any problem.
Can you guys give me your opinion about it, don t know much about corvette but the parts are very difficult to find here in Europe, the official dealer told me very high price for the parts like 10000$ just for the body parts with front and rear right light...
There is some pictures
I wanted a C7 Z06 for a long time now but the actual prices in Europe are too much expensive and I still have my 991 4S.
A garage that I know gave me a good offer on a Damaged Z06 of 2015, manual gear box and 35000 miles on it. I usually don't buy an damaged car but this one could be a good option for a track tool
The garage tells me that the structure of the car is not damaged and there is only body parts to replace and the right rear arm + the wheel. The engine is running perfeclty and the car can move without any problem.
Can you guys give me your opinion about it, don t know much about corvette but the parts are very difficult to find here in Europe, the official dealer told me very high price for the parts like 10000$ just for the body parts with front and rear right light...
There is some pictures
Last edited by rif75; 11-29-2017 at 12:17 PM.
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Hard to tell from the pictures but is the right side door surround panel damaged where the right rear quarter panel attaches to it? The surround is a large piece that attaches to the B pillar, frame and the A pillar. It is glued in several places and can be an issue getting off and then reattached correctly. All the other parts needing replacement look to be bolt on parts, although I would want to see why the left front fender is cracked. Was that caused by the hood or something below the hood? The front fender supports are more than likely glued to the frame and if they need to be replaced that can involve more work.
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Looks like only the driver's door and rear quarter are undamaged. Guess it depends on how nice you want to repair the car. Seems like a ton of work.
It reminded me of this movie scene at the 2 minutes mark. " a side we don't have to fix...."
Rubbing is racing.
It reminded me of this movie scene at the 2 minutes mark. " a side we don't have to fix...."
Rubbing is racing.
Last edited by BladeZ06; 11-29-2017 at 12:46 PM.
#6
Thanks guys for your opinions. I could buy a shipper car for the track instead of repair a z06 but I already have a car for the track and this one could be a good opportunity to replace it.
The thing is I want a Z06 and even with a 15000$ for parts, the car is still for a good price. Normally the woods is not damaged but just some protection because of the broke window.
So th big question is to see if behind the body parts, there is some glued parts damaged. If the only parts damaged are the bolted ones, the repair should not be that hard no?
The thing is I want a Z06 and even with a 15000$ for parts, the car is still for a good price. Normally the woods is not damaged but just some protection because of the broke window.
So th big question is to see if behind the body parts, there is some glued parts damaged. If the only parts damaged are the bolted ones, the repair should not be that hard no?
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My opinion is that car is too badly damaged to try to repair-even for a " track only " car. JMHO, but that's what you are asking for.
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#9
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It doesn't look too bad if the costs work out. It would be interesting to see your parts list. It probably needs new wheels front and rear on the right side. Those are cup tires, which are practically slicks when new so hard to tell the wear from photos. Also, in the first photo you can see the rear diff cooler and air ducts are missing.
Just think, you could put a ZR1 front end on this thing.
Just think, you could put a ZR1 front end on this thing.
Last edited by djnice; 11-29-2017 at 02:29 PM.
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Hello Guys
I wanted a C7 Z06 for a long time now but the actual prices in Europe are too much expensive and I still have my 991 4S.
A garage that I know gave me a good offer on a Damaged Z06 of 2015, manual gear box and 35000 miles on it. I usually don't buy an damaged car but this one could be a good option for a track tool
The garage tells me that the structure of the car is not damaged and there is only body parts to replace and the right rear arm + the wheel. The engine is running perfeclty and the car can move without any problem.
Can you guys give me your opinion about it, don t know much about corvette but the parts are very difficult to find here in Europe, the official dealer told me very high price for the parts like 10000$ just for the body parts with front and rear right light...
There is some pictures
I wanted a C7 Z06 for a long time now but the actual prices in Europe are too much expensive and I still have my 991 4S.
A garage that I know gave me a good offer on a Damaged Z06 of 2015, manual gear box and 35000 miles on it. I usually don't buy an damaged car but this one could be a good option for a track tool
The garage tells me that the structure of the car is not damaged and there is only body parts to replace and the right rear arm + the wheel. The engine is running perfeclty and the car can move without any problem.
Can you guys give me your opinion about it, don t know much about corvette but the parts are very difficult to find here in Europe, the official dealer told me very high price for the parts like 10000$ just for the body parts with front and rear right light...
There is some pictures
If there is no structural damage to the car only you know what your budget is for a track car. If the cost of this car and repairs put you within your budget to purchase a track car I would say go for it.
Point I am making here is the engine and driveline are worth $20K.
My guess is you are going to spend about $25K fixing this one plus the cost to purchase it. So this adds up to how much??
So the question then becomes how much are you willing to spend on a salvaged Z06 (this Z06). If its worth it to you and you are willing to spend what it cost to get this one running I would say go for it.
Personally (my humble opinion) if you can buy it and get it running for about $35K or less, keeping in mind its going to be a track car just to beat on, I would say you have yourself a good deal.
Last edited by dar02081961; 11-29-2017 at 02:33 PM.
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As Bill mentioned above, if the passenger side rocker requires replacement you've got a job on your hands. If not, then yes you can do it but should you? If you're getting a good price on the car, find no structural damage, can afford the parts, have the expertise to make the repairs (or money to pay someone that does), and the patience for such a project then go for it.
If not, and you happen to be in Ingolstadt...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ngolstadt.html
Mike
If not, and you happen to be in Ingolstadt...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ngolstadt.html
Mike
#12
I raced Vintage Formula Atlantic for several years and the crew did everything they could to provide a safe car to drive. When suspect parts were discovered, they were replaced without question. I would NOT want to take that repaired ZO6 out on a track with high speeds and hope nothing breaks even if some said it was fine.
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Thanks guys for teh help
No secret here, I could have the car for 43000$, if I have 25000$ to repair it as a "new" one, it is a good deal for my opinion since the frist price for a used one here in europe would be 85000 at this time. There is still a huge difference.
I ll go to see the car, if the only things damaged is bolted body parts, bumpers an light, there is no reason to say that this car is not safe. A car with no damages on the structure with a good repair should be as safe as a new one. I agree with the fact that I prefer an accident free car but with a 15000$ difference on the price...
No secret here, I could have the car for 43000$, if I have 25000$ to repair it as a "new" one, it is a good deal for my opinion since the frist price for a used one here in europe would be 85000 at this time. There is still a huge difference.
I ll go to see the car, if the only things damaged is bolted body parts, bumpers an light, there is no reason to say that this car is not safe. A car with no damages on the structure with a good repair should be as safe as a new one. I agree with the fact that I prefer an accident free car but with a 15000$ difference on the price...
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I made a list of the parts with prices, I think it covers almost all parts I could have to buy.
So 7900$ is not too bad. If I go for 12000 with shipping and taxes to be large and 3000 for the work with painting who is a friend so I am not worry about that. I could end up with 15000$ total
So 7900$ is not too bad. If I go for 12000 with shipping and taxes to be large and 3000 for the work with painting who is a friend so I am not worry about that. I could end up with 15000$ total
Last edited by rif75; 11-29-2017 at 09:10 PM.
#15
Drifting
That seems like an awful lot of money given the damage to that vehicle.
I put my 2015 Z51 3LZ into the tires at VIR.
It has less damage and the repair estimate came back at $33k
Buyback was $20k and valuation was $51.2k
As long as the frame & suspension are not damaged, you could turn it into a track car, which is what someone is doing with my car. They are looking at spending significantly less in repairs to get it track worthy. The largest expenses are the damaged steering rack and bent wheels.
I put my 2015 Z51 3LZ into the tires at VIR.
It has less damage and the repair estimate came back at $33k
Buyback was $20k and valuation was $51.2k
As long as the frame & suspension are not damaged, you could turn it into a track car, which is what someone is doing with my car. They are looking at spending significantly less in repairs to get it track worthy. The largest expenses are the damaged steering rack and bent wheels.
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Thanks again guys, I hear what you are saying but if I understand right, the car should cost no more that 50000$ with the repair? Again, a Z06 here in Europe with that mileage in good condition cost around at least 80000$. I know that an accident car has less value but not 30000$ less especially if the repair is perfectly made with no structure or mechanical damage. Maybe it s not the same in US
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I would look for a used hood and front fender and the bumper covers. $2,200 is a lot for a hood and they might be hard to find used. The car does not look like it was hit very hard and there probably is not much structure damage.
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Thanks Guys
I found some parts in laguna blue like the hood but for regular C7... Same for bumper and rear quarter panel. The big issue is to find dealers that are ready to send it in europe...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/2014-CHEVY-CO...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/C7-Corvette-...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/C7-Corvette-....c100033.m2042
I found some parts in laguna blue like the hood but for regular C7... Same for bumper and rear quarter panel. The big issue is to find dealers that are ready to send it in europe...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/2014-CHEVY-CO...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/C7-Corvette-...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/C7-Corvette-....c100033.m2042
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I've owned and rebuilt many salvaged wrecks street and track cars. I can tell you if that car was in the US I would be all over it but for a price in the low 30k range.
The car appears to have mostly non structural damage. To prove this and the first and most important thing to do before removing one part is to measure the complete chassis and attempt an alignment. I suggest finding a collision shop with a laser type data based measuring equipment such as Chief Laser Lock. This will show the factory specs at certain control points vs the damaged car. There are factory tolerances but with the C7 they are minimal. The hydro formed high strength steel frame is the most important to inspect. Many times the damaged sections are not repairable. But it is possible to repair twist and bends if buckles are not present.
Money is saved repairing a track car in many ways when looks are not as important as safety first performance second. Most of the plastic pieces can be sectioned \ glued to save labor. Many of the plastic parts can be repaired with plastic welders and other process. Aftermarket parts can be used in place of factory expensive pieces. GM has a repair manual for the C7 you should get access to it or the shop repairing it. Alldata may work or a dealer that will print out the pages.
Believe me the C7 Z06 would be worth the trouble it is truly a track beast. I track the exact car although mine has the Z07 package and I would really like a dedicated one too. That Porsche will be a garage queen if you do this. We all would be interested in the process and out come if you do it here. Good luck.
The car appears to have mostly non structural damage. To prove this and the first and most important thing to do before removing one part is to measure the complete chassis and attempt an alignment. I suggest finding a collision shop with a laser type data based measuring equipment such as Chief Laser Lock. This will show the factory specs at certain control points vs the damaged car. There are factory tolerances but with the C7 they are minimal. The hydro formed high strength steel frame is the most important to inspect. Many times the damaged sections are not repairable. But it is possible to repair twist and bends if buckles are not present.
Money is saved repairing a track car in many ways when looks are not as important as safety first performance second. Most of the plastic pieces can be sectioned \ glued to save labor. Many of the plastic parts can be repaired with plastic welders and other process. Aftermarket parts can be used in place of factory expensive pieces. GM has a repair manual for the C7 you should get access to it or the shop repairing it. Alldata may work or a dealer that will print out the pages.
Believe me the C7 Z06 would be worth the trouble it is truly a track beast. I track the exact car although mine has the Z07 package and I would really like a dedicated one too. That Porsche will be a garage queen if you do this. We all would be interested in the process and out come if you do it here. Good luck.
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