Can we run 28" tall tires?
#1
Can we run 28" tall tires?
Caught a few nails in my stock mpss... i wanted to replace with conti's but they arnt available. I wanna get away from run flats, so right now for stock rim im looking at the 28" tall 335/30/20 mpss or 26.3" tall 325/25/20, both NON runflat of course. I prefer the taller tire but will a 28" rub on stock suspension stock hight? Stock tire is 26.6"
Last edited by Liter of cola; 08-17-2017 at 05:36 PM.
#2
Safety Car
I wouldn't take any gear ratio/performance away by using a taller tire. The 26.3" would be like running a stock height tire which has a little wear for even a 'slightly' better ratio.
However, I do like more ground clearance but 'most' on here prefer less.
However, I do like more ground clearance but 'most' on here prefer less.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 08-17-2017 at 06:09 PM.
#3
I run a 345/30/19 which is 27.4 inches tall and I am lowered with LG Spindles (not bolts) and it will only rub if I hit a big bump with heavy passenger and full fuel and suspension set to touring. I don't think you will rub at stock height with 28"
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Why are you afraid of the MPSS ZPs? They are damned good tires. They are top performing tires and the only downside is the slightly higher cost. The Conti's are a step down in performance. The MPSS is lower cost but then you have the disadvantage of running mixed front to rear ratio of tire diameters. That can affect how TC and Stability Control can react since the Brake Control Module thinks the rear tires are not turning appropriately with the fronts. That can affect when TC initiates and how hard stability control applies the brakes on one of the wheels when it is active. Then of course you have the possibility of tearing up the inner wheel well if the tire hits it when going over a bump. I run a .5 inch larger diameter rear Hoosier when I am on the track and I have two torn locations in my left rear inner wheel well where the tire hit it as I went over a bump. This is on a car at stock ride height.
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Bill
#6
Why are you afraid of the MPSS ZPs? They are damned good tires. They are top performing tires and the only downside is the slightly higher cost. The Conti's are a step down in performance. The MPSS is lower cost but then you have the disadvantage of running mixed front to rear ratio of tire diameters. That can affect how TC and Stability Control can react since the Brake Control Module thinks the rear tires are not turning appropriately with the fronts. That can affect when TC initiates and how hard stability control applies the brakes on one of the wheels when it is active. Then of course you have the possibility of tearing up the inner wheel well if the tire hits it when going over a bump. I run a .5 inch larger diameter rear Hoosier when I am on the track and I have two torn locations in my left rear inner wheel well where the tire hit it as I went over a bump. This is on a car at stock ride height.
Bill
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#7
Melting Slicks
You can run 28" and they will just rub a little on full compression. I just took off slicks that are 27.8" and they rub the liner, but the liner is replaceable.
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Caught a few nails in my stock mpss... i wanted to replace with conti's but they arnt available. I wanna get away from run flats, so right now for stock rim im looking at the 28" tall 335/30/20 mpss or 26.3" tall 325/25/20, both NON runflat of course. I prefer the taller tire but will a 28" rub on stock suspension stock hight? Stock tire is 26.6"
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Race Director
#11
Racer
Do you have first hand experience with the Invo? I've been seriously considering them and will have to pass if thats the case.
#12
I had a c6 z06 with the nitto invo pushing about 576 to the RWHP and if you set the tire pressure to about 28 psi they worked great
#13
i have 345/30/19 r888rs and getting my spindles installed next week this is good to know, I was worried about the rear rubbing but I can live with what you said.
#14
Race Director
I also have run R888s which I drive to the track and they grip like you would expect a DOT track tire to grip, well above street tires. I also have MT ET SS in 325/30-19. They have very good straight line grip, were OK driving to events in light rain, but start to get unstable at 140 and I wouldn't want to run them over 170.
#15
No, but I follow tires on the forum very closely. I did have a set of Nitto NT-05s which are more agressive than the Invos. They had good grip and wore out in 7K miles including 4 track days, where they worked well. I replaced those with PSS non-ZPs and the PSS had much more grip. On a couple of local roundabouts the NT05s pulled .93 and .97G. The PSS pulled 1.12G on both and lasted well over 20K miles with several road course days.
I also have run R888s which I drive to the track and they grip like you would expect a DOT track tire to grip, well above street tires. I also have MT ET SS in 325/30-19. They have very good straight line grip, were OK driving to events in light rain, but start to get unstable at 140 and I wouldn't want to run them over 170.
I also have run R888s which I drive to the track and they grip like you would expect a DOT track tire to grip, well above street tires. I also have MT ET SS in 325/30-19. They have very good straight line grip, were OK driving to events in light rain, but start to get unstable at 140 and I wouldn't want to run them over 170.
he wants 20s on the back!
#17
Racer
I'm currently running 28 on 21 rim. (pirelli 355x25x21) Want to change back to 20 because I don't like the look of the car with 21's. sits too high but fills the fender gap well.
And yes, it rubs like a ****.. The tires have actually rubbed through the inner fenders in some sections but the liners can always be replaced.
And yes, it rubs like a ****.. The tires have actually rubbed through the inner fenders in some sections but the liners can always be replaced.
#18
Melting Slicks
I'm currently running 28 on 21 rim. (pirelli 355x25x21) Want to change back to 20 because I don't like the look of the car with 21's. sits too high but fills the fender gap well.
And yes, it rubs like a ****.. The tires have actually rubbed through the inner fenders in some sections but the liners can always be replaced.
And yes, it rubs like a ****.. The tires have actually rubbed through the inner fenders in some sections but the liners can always be replaced.
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Race Director
#20
Le Mans Master
Invos are terrible performance tires... For daily driving and putting miles on them, they are fine...but they have no grip either acceleration or lateral. They are sized small so a 345 is the equivalent to 325 or 335 of any other brand. Exactly the same thing goes for the Nitto Motivo line... They are sized very small, ride like a rail road car and have no traction.
No way would I run an Invo on anything that makes over 400 rwhp......(or 300 for that matter)
No way would I run an Invo on anything that makes over 400 rwhp......(or 300 for that matter)