Can a 2019 Z06 be tuned?
06-05-2018, 10:22 PM
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I have indeed bought a ZR1 in tank pump. The part number is different than the Z06. I am not the only one saying this. TADGE SAID IT! and no, Ben doesn’t know more than Tadge lol. I like Ben a lot but Tadge designed and built the car. If you don’t want to ask your source for the part number, thats fine. But please understand that you cannot go around saying that you know its true because you heard it from somewhere else. You need proof. Something that can be confirmed by a different dealer by part numbers. What you were -TOLD- is NOT proof. I have ireffutable proof by having a ZR1 pump with part number.
Tadge was a small part on a LARGE team of engineers he didn't design the car himself?
If you think he knows more than Ben on the LT5 and tuning you could be wrong again!
How about you pony a 100.00 if they are the same part and I will pay if I'm wrong?
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06-05-2018, 10:31 PM
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06-05-2018, 10:34 PM
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Its absurd that you cannot seem to grasp the concept that your source may be incorrect. They told you so it must be gospel. I have some snake oil for sale if your interested. Guaranteed to raise your soon to have 2019 C7 Z06 by 217 HP to the wheels.
06-05-2018, 10:40 PM
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Now I'm scratching my head with the original question in this thread. With all this information from a contact or contacts, why would that even have been a question that couldn't have been answered in seconds?
06-05-2018, 10:44 PM
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who said they are the same.
Then my dealer's part and service department. Who I have went drinking with them and we have common friends hey they worked on my last on 5 Corvette's .
Personally told me after looking it up on the 2019 GM diagrams
and matched the 2019 ZR1 and 2019 Z06 part numbers and yes you are correct they are the same part.
No reasoning with you you had it backwards! Pony up that 100.00 bet!
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06-06-2018, 03:40 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if they used the same parts. Saves cost. Similar Tadge says they upgraded all the rear diffs on C7's only to have a higher strength rear diff for the ZR1. They didn't want to produce multiple diffs.
06-06-2018, 04:02 AM
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Why is it so hard to ask for a part number and post it?
Either way someone can just post the zr1 part number and say this is the Z06 number.
Any online catalogue that can end this dispute?
Either way someone can just post the zr1 part number and say this is the Z06 number.
Any online catalogue that can end this dispute?
06-06-2018, 07:26 AM
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Not really and don't go turning the thread sour. The source's are Ben
who said they are the same.
Then my dealer's part and service department. Who I have went drinking with them and we have common friends hey they worked on my last on 5 Corvette's .
Personally told me after looking it up on the 2019 GM diagrams
and matched the 2019 ZR1 and 2019 Z06 part numbers and yes you are correct they are the same part.
No reasoning with you you had it backwards! Pony up that 100.00 bet!
who said they are the same.
Then my dealer's part and service department. Who I have went drinking with them and we have common friends hey they worked on my last on 5 Corvette's .
Personally told me after looking it up on the 2019 GM diagrams
and matched the 2019 ZR1 and 2019 Z06 part numbers and yes you are correct they are the same part.
No reasoning with you you had it backwards! Pony up that 100.00 bet!
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06-06-2018, 11:44 AM
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I have indeed bought a ZR1 in tank pump. The part number is different than the Z06. I am not the only one saying this. TADGE SAID IT! and no, Ben doesn’t know more than Tadge lol. I like Ben a lot but Tadge designed and built the car. If you don’t want to ask your source for the part number, thats fine. But please understand that you cannot go around saying that you know its true because you heard it from somewhere else. You need proof. Something that can be confirmed by a different dealer by part numbers. What you were -TOLD- is NOT proof. I have ireffutable proof by having a ZR1 pump with part number.
While I don't claim to know more than Tadge, in this case, I believe he is incorrect unless he was talking about the ZR1 vs previous Z06 because the Z06 and ZR1 use the same in tank pump in 2019, but different from previous years: PN 84240348 $200
I do not believe this will be a direct swap though as it has a lot more going on than previous years with the PWM control and I'm not sure if the FPCM would be a direct swap and still communicate with the E92 PCM of previous years as it is also used to supply the port injection on the same feed line.
I can tell you with certainty though that this pump is not enough to supply higher HP, especially with E85 as the line pressure has trouble keeping up with pump gas around 800whp on my ZR1. You can see the line pressure falling to nearly 60psi. On E85 it would be done...
06-06-2018, 12:14 PM
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Sounds like you have 2019 ZR1/Z06 fuel pump and may not be able to use it. Sure you have enough proof now?
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06-06-2018, 12:17 PM
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Awww shucks guys lol... I'm honored While I don't claim to know more than Tadge, in this case, I believe he is incorrect unless he was talking about the ZR1 vs previous Z06 because the Z06 and ZR1 use the same in tank pump in 2019, but different from previous years:
PN 84240348 $200
I do not believe this will be a direct swap though as it has a lot more going on than previous years with the PWM control and I'm not sure if the FPCM would be a direct swap and still communicate with the E92 PCM of previous years as it is also used to supply the port injection on the same feed line.
I can tell you with certainty though that this pump is not enough to supply higher HP, especially with E85 as the line pressure has trouble keeping up with pump gas around 800whp on my ZR1. You can see the line pressure falling to nearly 60psi. On E85 it would be done...
While I don't claim to know more than Tadge, in this case, I believe he is incorrect unless he was talking about the ZR1 vs previous Z06 because the Z06 and ZR1 use the same in tank pump in 2019, but different from previous years: PN 84240348 $200
I do not believe this will be a direct swap though as it has a lot more going on than previous years with the PWM control and I'm not sure if the FPCM would be a direct swap and still communicate with the E92 PCM of previous years as it is also used to supply the port injection on the same feed line.
I can tell you with certainty though that this pump is not enough to supply higher HP, especially with E85 as the line pressure has trouble keeping up with pump gas around 800whp on my ZR1. You can see the line pressure falling to nearly 60psi. On E85 it would be done...
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06-06-2018, 12:28 PM
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Plus I don't need any approval from you. You certainly have no idea!
Why didn't you just keep rolling on to another thread when you post need less attacks you junk up the forum and the threads with nothing to add but personal attacks.
What is the need for it? You sure don't know me and I don't know who you are?
06-06-2018, 12:32 PM
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Awww shucks guys lol... I'm honored While I don't claim to know more than Tadge, in this case, I believe he is incorrect unless he was talking about the ZR1 vs previous Z06 because the Z06 and ZR1 use the same in tank pump in 2019, but different from previous years:
PN 84240348 $200
I do not believe this will be a direct swap though as it has a lot more going on than previous years with the PWM control and I'm not sure if the FPCM would be a direct swap and still communicate with the E92 PCM of previous years as it is also used to supply the port injection on the same feed line.
I can tell you with certainty though that this pump is not enough to supply higher HP, especially with E85 as the line pressure has trouble keeping up with pump gas around 800whp on my ZR1. You can see the line pressure falling to nearly 60psi. On E85 it would be done...
While I don't claim to know more than Tadge, in this case, I believe he is incorrect unless he was talking about the ZR1 vs previous Z06 because the Z06 and ZR1 use the same in tank pump in 2019, but different from previous years: PN 84240348 $200
I do not believe this will be a direct swap though as it has a lot more going on than previous years with the PWM control and I'm not sure if the FPCM would be a direct swap and still communicate with the E92 PCM of previous years as it is also used to supply the port injection on the same feed line.
I can tell you with certainty though that this pump is not enough to supply higher HP, especially with E85 as the line pressure has trouble keeping up with pump gas around 800whp on my ZR1. You can see the line pressure falling to nearly 60psi. On E85 it would be done...
So with this pump having more going on - how does this relate to the Z06 then if its not a direct install for other years/non Z06’s? What more does the Z06 have going on this year vs previous?
While I know that doing this pump is not a substitute for the true low side systems available, I think the extra 20% will be enough to do what I need for now in that aspect. I can run about E45-E50 which put me over 900 wheel. 20% more low side fuel is just the bump I need to run either a slightly higher E ratio, or a slightly higher power level at E45ish.
I have this same pump on its way to me right now, ETA tomorrow. It would be a shame if I couldn’t drop it in and go. Guess we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
That may indeed be the case it seems!
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06-06-2018, 12:43 PM
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Ben, That is indeed the same part number that I have for the ZR1 low side pump. So thats great news that the Z06 has the same pump then and this confirms it.
So with this pump having more going on - how does this relate to the Z06 then if its not a direct install for other years/non Z06’s? What more does the Z06 have going on this year vs previous?
While I know that doing this pump is not a substitute for the true low side systems available, I think the extra 20% will be enough to do what I need for now in that aspect. I can run about E45-E50 which put me over 900 wheel. 20% more low side fuel is just the bump I need to run either a slightly higher E ratio, or a slightly higher power level at E45ish.
I have this same pump on its way to me right now, ETA tomorrow. It would be a shame if I couldn’t drop it in and go. Guess we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
That may indeed be the case it seems!
So with this pump having more going on - how does this relate to the Z06 then if its not a direct install for other years/non Z06’s? What more does the Z06 have going on this year vs previous?
While I know that doing this pump is not a substitute for the true low side systems available, I think the extra 20% will be enough to do what I need for now in that aspect. I can run about E45-E50 which put me over 900 wheel. 20% more low side fuel is just the bump I need to run either a slightly higher E ratio, or a slightly higher power level at E45ish.
I have this same pump on its way to me right now, ETA tomorrow. It would be a shame if I couldn’t drop it in and go. Guess we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
That may indeed be the case it seems!
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Ben, That is indeed the same part number that I have for the ZR1 low side pump. So thats great news that the Z06 has the same pump then and this confirms it.
So with this pump having more going on - how does this relate to the Z06 then if its not a direct install for other years/non Z06’s? What more does the Z06 have going on this year vs previous?
While I know that doing this pump is not a substitute for the true low side systems available, I think the extra 20% will be enough to do what I need for now in that aspect. I can run about E45-E50 which put me over 900 wheel. 20% more low side fuel is just the bump I need to run either a slightly higher E ratio, or a slightly higher power level at E45ish.
I have this same pump on its way to me right now, ETA tomorrow. It would be a shame if I couldn’t drop it in and go. Guess we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
So with this pump having more going on - how does this relate to the Z06 then if its not a direct install for other years/non Z06’s? What more does the Z06 have going on this year vs previous?
While I know that doing this pump is not a substitute for the true low side systems available, I think the extra 20% will be enough to do what I need for now in that aspect. I can run about E45-E50 which put me over 900 wheel. 20% more low side fuel is just the bump I need to run either a slightly higher E ratio, or a slightly higher power level at E45ish.
I have this same pump on its way to me right now, ETA tomorrow. It would be a shame if I couldn’t drop it in and go. Guess we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
06-06-2018, 01:49 PM
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The 2019 Z06 got a lot of upgrades the ZR1 got for simplicity of the production line. I was told they make 1 ZR1 for every 10 Corvettes because they take so much longer, so I am sure GM's production engineers and bean counters did the cost analysis on changeover parts that they could share vs. just the ZR1 getting them and inserting different parts into the assembly line. I have a "little" bit of experience with this...
Almost forgot a big thing to check. Will the 2300 still fit on the 2019? need to call them today. I hoping the 2300/intake /headers combo will make more power on the 2019 than the 2015 on 92 octane from the improvements in the fuel and I thinking injector control and other factors could be improved as well. These things are a big factor in the decision factor. Otherwise I should stand pat.
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The 2019 Z06 got a lot of upgrades the ZR1 got for simplicity of the production line. I was told they make 1 ZR1 for every 10 Corvettes because they take so much longer, so I am sure GM's production engineers and bean counters did the cost analysis on changeover parts that they could share vs. just the ZR1 getting them and inserting different parts into the assembly line. I have a "little" bit of experience with this...
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06-06-2018, 04:30 PM
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I was wrong. Have no problem saying that. Also have no problem with saying sorry. I never meant to seem adversarial towards you. I just wanted to see the part number with my own eyes for proof beyond taking someones word. So, I’m sorry.
That makes sense. do you happen to have a stock 2019 Z06 HPT file you could share? I’d like to see how its treating the new fuel pump and aee what may need to be tweaked.
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That makes sense. do you happen to have a stock 2019 Z06 HPT file you could share? I’d like to see how its treating the new fuel pump and aee what may need to be tweaked.
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