More rust under driver seat-2018 Z06, 718 miles.
06-05-2018, 05:35 PM
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Ummm. No. You are not obsessive. That is not right. Something is amiss. Was this possibly left outside with the top off at some point? I would not be pleased either...and will be looking at the underside of my Seats soon.
06-05-2018, 05:45 PM
#22
I would take it back even if it was a company truck being that new. Whatever the reason is irrelevant they owe it to you to fix that BS. It shouldn't be like that after a couple of years unless it was a beach cruiser. A new Vette is not even a question on them replacing the frame and motors at the minimum in my opinion. Bottom of my '99 Formula seats look equal to or better than that and I live south of Houston.
06-05-2018, 05:46 PM
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Now that there indicates something wonky happened to the driver seat. I'd expect both of them to be in similar condition. If the paz seat looks fine, then something must be up with this one, or something got that side of the pax floor wet.
06-05-2018, 06:00 PM
#24
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i bought it day day after thanksgiving 2017. The dealer had it stored inside.
Brackets and bolts spotless on both sides.
That would be a lot of labor to take it apart and paint it.
My opinion is the car got a little damp on the inside and through multiple heAt and cold cycles the condensation built up and rusted none coated/painted metal parts inside.
I would not be concerned about those parts I would be most concerned. About electrical connections inside the car and under the dash
take it to the dealer and state your concern and ask them what can be done about it and go look at other cars in addition to corvettes they have on the lot. I would ask for an extended warranty at no extra charge and not worry so much about the rusted brackets.
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06-05-2018, 06:04 PM
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I would take this to the dealer. I can not see how on a car this new, that they would not look at replacing immediately. Forget cosmetics, my concern (and theirs) should be failure of structural elements in the event of a crash. I've never seen anything like this.
06-05-2018, 06:35 PM
#26
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The seat mechanism must have been left outside or in a damp area at Bowling Green. If the top was left off, the passenger side would look the same. Have the dealer look at it. If they decide not to do anything, at least it will be documented for future reference.
06-05-2018, 07:02 PM
#27
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It is, at worst, a cosmetic blemish in a part of the car that is rarely seen.It's probably still worth taking to the dealer, but I would not be shocked if GM declines to cover it under warranty on the basis of negligence.
Again, if there is water actively entering the car, then that is a separate and very real problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe the roof seal is pinched. There's people on here who admit to having never had theirs off, so that's another possibility.
Right. Because GM makes a habit of stacking up brand new seat assemblies outdoors at their state of the art assembly plant. Come on...
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06-05-2018, 07:22 PM
#28
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I don't have a solution because it's not a problem. It's cosmetic surface rust. If there's water actively entering the car, then the rust is a symptom rather than the actual problem. My guess is the driver's window wasn't up all the way and someone washed the car, but didn't dry the carpet properly. Is that good? No. But is it a problem worthy of the the wailing and gnashing of teeth we're seeing? No. There's people acting like he's mere moments away from falling through the floor of the car. It is, at worst, a cosmetic blemish in a part of the car that is rarely seen.
It's probably still worth taking to the dealer, but I would not be shocked if GM declines to cover it under warranty on the basis of negligence.
Again, if there is water actively entering the car, then that is a separate and very real problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe the roof seal is pinched. There's people on here who admit to having never had theirs off, so that's another possibility.
Right. Because GM makes a habit of stacking up brand new seat assemblies outdoors at their state of the art assembly plant. Come on...
It is, at worst, a cosmetic blemish in a part of the car that is rarely seen.It's probably still worth taking to the dealer, but I would not be shocked if GM declines to cover it under warranty on the basis of negligence.
Again, if there is water actively entering the car, then that is a separate and very real problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe the roof seal is pinched. There's people on here who admit to having never had theirs off, so that's another possibility.
Right. Because GM makes a habit of stacking up brand new seat assemblies outdoors at their state of the art assembly plant. Come on...
The op is concerned. He made 2 payments and may be having a little buyers remorse. He has 3 Choices
1. Leave it alone drive it and if any issues pop up including leaks he has 34 months left on the warranty to sort that out.
2. Sell the car and take his financial lumps
3. Take it in to dealer document the problem, look at other cars and see if they have rusted seat brackets. Ask for an extended warranty if other cars don’t have rusted seat brackets. Siting concern of moisture causing future electrical problems. If other cars do have rust then just stop looking under the seats.
06-05-2018, 07:28 PM
#29
Drifting
Damn that rust looks like ****.
Take it to a dealer and see what they say. Don't get discouraged if the first one declines. Just take it to another one and see what they say. They're all different on what they'll fix for you.
Take it to a dealer and see what they say. Don't get discouraged if the first one declines. Just take it to another one and see what they say. They're all different on what they'll fix for you.
06-05-2018, 07:54 PM
#31
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I don't have a solution because it's not a problem. It's cosmetic surface rust. If there's water actively entering the car, then the rust is a symptom rather than the actual problem. My guess is the driver's window wasn't up all the way and someone washed the car, but didn't dry the carpet properly. Is that good? No. But is it a problem worthy of the the wailing and gnashing of teeth we're seeing? No. There's people acting like he's mere moments away from falling through the floor of the car. It is, at worst, a cosmetic blemish in a part of the car that is rarely seen.
It's probably still worth taking to the dealer, but I would not be shocked if GM declines to cover it under warranty on the basis of negligence.
Again, if there is water actively entering the car, then that is a separate and very real problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe the roof seal is pinched. There's people on here who admit to having never had theirs off, so that's another possibility.
Right. Because GM makes a habit of stacking up brand new seat assemblies outdoors at their state of the art assembly plant. Come on...
It is, at worst, a cosmetic blemish in a part of the car that is rarely seen.It's probably still worth taking to the dealer, but I would not be shocked if GM declines to cover it under warranty on the basis of negligence.
Again, if there is water actively entering the car, then that is a separate and very real problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe the roof seal is pinched. There's people on here who admit to having never had theirs off, so that's another possibility.
Right. Because GM makes a habit of stacking up brand new seat assemblies outdoors at their state of the art assembly plant. Come on...
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06-05-2018, 10:10 PM
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I've inspected a few flood cars in my day and dam that seat frame shows like a flood. Check the steering shaft going thru the fire wall. That is another area to show rust similar to seat frames.
For a moment lets assume your new car was not in a flood. I would pull back the carpet to the insulation on the floor at the lowest points possible passenger and drivers sides and feel if they are damp. I would be suspect of a water leak of some sort. Other than the obvious like a leaky windshield or weather-strip check the A\C drain hose that it exits properly and is not kinked. If the carpet insulation is damp a professional water leak test must be done. Its takes time and patience. I did this for Chrysler for 2 years can be a real PIA to find the leak!
Like everyone has commented here this IS NOT NORMAL you have a issue. I would not buy your car used after seeing those seat frames as it is a place i look. That's also called diminished value! Get it fixed and good luck.
For a moment lets assume your new car was not in a flood. I would pull back the carpet to the insulation on the floor at the lowest points possible passenger and drivers sides and feel if they are damp. I would be suspect of a water leak of some sort. Other than the obvious like a leaky windshield or weather-strip check the A\C drain hose that it exits properly and is not kinked. If the carpet insulation is damp a professional water leak test must be done. Its takes time and patience. I did this for Chrysler for 2 years can be a real PIA to find the leak!
Like everyone has commented here this IS NOT NORMAL you have a issue. I would not buy your car used after seeing those seat frames as it is a place i look. That's also called diminished value! Get it fixed and good luck.
06-05-2018, 10:46 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
I stand corrected. The car is a complete basket case. GM should replace it with nothing less than a loaded ZR1, delivered by a very apologetic Mary Barra.
06-06-2018, 12:01 PM
#36
I appreciate that man, thanks for everyone input. Took it to the dealer today. They just went by my pictures and is ordering all new underside assembly. I would've thought they'd at least take it apart and see what else was affected.
06-06-2018, 12:19 PM
#37
Drifting
Glad they took care of it. I'd keep taking the car to that dealership if it went that smoothly. Not all dealers are cool like that.
06-06-2018, 12:34 PM
#39
Team Owner
I doubt this would be covered under warranty because there's no actual damage and these aren't parts that were intended to have a visible, cosmetic finish. It's surface corrosion from atmospheric moisture. The only way you're going to stop it is to break the seats down and have the frames painted or powder coated.
06-06-2018, 12:35 PM
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