$1,000 for California Registrations Renewal on 2016 Z07??
06-28-2018, 06:22 PM
#101
Amat Victoria Curam
;-)
Last edited by HighBeta; 06-28-2018 at 06:23 PM.
06-28-2018, 07:49 PM
#102
Racer
Last edited by MacRoadie; 06-28-2018 at 07:49 PM.
06-29-2018, 12:08 AM
#104
Melting Slicks
You are the exact reason I will never pay CA Real Estate taxes, prop 13 and the pyramid of cost you left for new homeowners. You are fine if the advantage is yours while new homeowners pay 1.8% and pay for your burden.
So eat CA and die. This place is nuts with entitlement and your post proves it,.
As far as “me and the wife” being the reason you will never pay CA real estate taxes, that is also completely lacking in facts. The fact is that when we bought our main home, the people we bought it from were paying annual property taxes of $1,500 because of Prop 6. In contrast, our first year property taxes came to $16,500 - a $15,000 increase. Should we have followed your example and loudly demeaned them as veritable selfish tax cheats to all the other neighbors as they drove away?
Did the wife and I ever support Prop 6. No. It’s not completely fair to all. It could have been done much better. Should the wife and I voluntarily add say another $10,000 to our property taxes next year? Would that enable you to cease falsely and unfairly accusing us of being greedy tax freeloaders? Do you voluntarily overpay taxes that in any way give you an advantage over other citizens who aren’t positioned to have the same advantages that accrue to you and yours? Really think that capital gains tax rates, tax free municipal bonds, corporate rates, and Sub S tax rates are universally fair to all other citizens? Truly admirable behavior.
Last edited by B747VET; 06-29-2018 at 12:10 AM.
06-29-2018, 12:42 AM
#105
Amat Victoria Curam
06-29-2018, 12:43 AM
#106
Texas has 93 octane/my county near San Antonio no smog/cat inspection/93 octane was 2.63 today at the station/75 bucks for my 2016 z06 license and the same for my 2015 3/4 ton duramax/cheap housing/so glad we left the left coast/
06-29-2018, 10:33 AM
#107
Race Director
As far as “me and the wife” being the reason you will never pay CA real estate taxes, that is also completely lacking in facts. The fact is that when we bought our main home, the people we bought it from were paying annual property taxes of $1,500 because of Prop 6. In contrast, our first year property taxes came to $16,500 - a $15,000 increase. Should we have followed your example and loudly demeaned them as veritable selfish tax cheats to all the other neighbors as they drove away?
Did the wife and I ever support Prop 6. No. It’s not completely fair to all. It could have been done much better. Should the wife and I voluntarily add say another $10,000 to our property taxes next year? Would that enable you to cease falsely and unfairly accusing us of being greedy tax freeloaders? Do you voluntarily overpay taxes that in any way give you an advantage over other citizens who aren’t positioned to have the same advantages that accrue to you and yours? Really think that capital gains tax rates, tax free municipal bonds, corporate rates, and Sub S tax rates are universally fair to all other citizens? Truly admirable behavior.
06-29-2018, 10:52 AM
#108
Team Owner
87 gets a 2 year tag with no sales tax. We have 92 octane. No car inspections or smog.
06-29-2018, 11:01 AM
#109
Team Owner
Another way to look at this without being smug is with some simple math: high real estate taxes can be a trivial amount relative to the savings absent a sales and income tax. If I pay 1500 a month in RE taxes but forego about 6500 to 8500 monthly in state, local, and sales taxes ... then that's 5000 to 7000 in net capital that can be used to seek a decent ROI in land purchases or private equity placements in states that forego grabbing out of state investment profits. Some nice vacations can also be taken for "quality of life" pleasures.
From my informed understanding, the worst states for cost of living are CA, NJ, NY, CT, OR, MA, RI, HI, AK, and VT. Some beautiful areas therein, but other states also offer some wonderful areas too.
About liberal CA versus not liberal, that's not something that I comment on.
"Your mileage may vary "...
From my informed understanding, the worst states for cost of living are CA, NJ, NY, CT, OR, MA, RI, HI, AK, and VT. Some beautiful areas therein, but other states also offer some wonderful areas too.
About liberal CA versus not liberal, that's not something that I comment on.
"Your mileage may vary "...
06-29-2018, 01:58 PM
#110
Racer
My point is this:
1. Earthquakes: California is a huge state and any one area feels maybe one good shaker a year. Maybe. I'll take that over the guaranteed annual blizzards, ice storms, nor'easters, etc. 30 seconds of shaking versus six months of guaranteed annual frozen misery (and no Z06 driving)?
2. Forest Fires: Again, big state. The Sonoma and Mendocino County fires were 450+ miles from my house, or the distance from Boston to Pittsburgh or Toronto. Even the Santa Barbara fires were a good 100 miles away from us. Conversely, if you live in the bay area, they were about 300 miles from you.
3. Drought: Yes, it happened. Once in my 54 years on this planet. Also, https://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/09/...gland-drought/
4. Smog: Yes, Los Angeles and the general metropolitan area has generally poor air quality, but it is MUCH better than it used to be (and improving), and 90% of the state isn't affected by it.
5. Salton Sea: Aside from being nearly 150 miles from my house (pretty much driving from one end of mass to the other), it's a man-made phenomenon. The "Sea" was created by a breach in a dike:
It shouldn't have been there to begin with, and would have dried up anyway as there is little natural inflow into the dry lake bed (like since the last ice age).
Interestingly, there are a total of 34 Federal Superfund site in Massachusetts. Conversely, in California, a state with massive aerospace, military, and agrobusiness presences, there are a total of 94. 3 times more in a state 16 times larger, more populated, and with a military/industrial economy that dwarfs all of New England.
Although with offices in San Antonio and Houston, I wouldn't mind combining Texas taxation with California scenery and weather...
1. Earthquakes: California is a huge state and any one area feels maybe one good shaker a year. Maybe. I'll take that over the guaranteed annual blizzards, ice storms, nor'easters, etc. 30 seconds of shaking versus six months of guaranteed annual frozen misery (and no Z06 driving)?
2. Forest Fires: Again, big state. The Sonoma and Mendocino County fires were 450+ miles from my house, or the distance from Boston to Pittsburgh or Toronto. Even the Santa Barbara fires were a good 100 miles away from us. Conversely, if you live in the bay area, they were about 300 miles from you.
3. Drought: Yes, it happened. Once in my 54 years on this planet. Also, https://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/09/...gland-drought/
4. Smog: Yes, Los Angeles and the general metropolitan area has generally poor air quality, but it is MUCH better than it used to be (and improving), and 90% of the state isn't affected by it.
5. Salton Sea: Aside from being nearly 150 miles from my house (pretty much driving from one end of mass to the other), it's a man-made phenomenon. The "Sea" was created by a breach in a dike:
The most recent inflow of water from the now heavily controlled Colorado River was accidentally created by the engineers of the California Development Company in 1905. In an effort to increase water flow into the area for farming, irrigation canals were dug from the Colorado River into the valley. The canals suffered silt buildup, so a cut was made in the bank of the Colorado River to further increase the water flow. The resulting outflow overwhelmed the engineered canal, and the river flowed into the Salton Basin for two years, filling the historic dry lake bed and creating the modern sea, before repairs were completed.[2]
Interestingly, there are a total of 34 Federal Superfund site in Massachusetts. Conversely, in California, a state with massive aerospace, military, and agrobusiness presences, there are a total of 94. 3 times more in a state 16 times larger, more populated, and with a military/industrial economy that dwarfs all of New England.
Although with offices in San Antonio and Houston, I wouldn't mind combining Texas taxation with California scenery and weather...
Last edited by MacRoadie; 06-29-2018 at 02:26 PM.
06-29-2018, 08:29 PM
#111
Amat Victoria Curam
My point is this:
1. Earthquakes: California is a huge state and any one area feels maybe one good shaker a year. Maybe. I'll take that over the guaranteed annual blizzards, ice storms, nor'easters, etc. 30 seconds of shaking versus six months of guaranteed annual frozen misery (and no Z06 driving)?
2. Forest Fires: Again, big state. The Sonoma and Mendocino County fires were 450+ miles from my house, or the distance from Boston to Pittsburgh or Toronto. Even the Santa Barbara fires were a good 100 miles away from us. Conversely, if you live in the bay area, they were about 300 miles from you.
3. Drought: Yes, it happened. Once in my 54 years on this planet. Also, https://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/09/...gland-drought/
4. Smog: Yes, Los Angeles and the general metropolitan area has generally poor air quality, but it is MUCH better than it used to be (and improving), and 90% of the state isn't affected by it.
5. Salton Sea: Aside from being nearly 150 miles from my house (pretty much driving from one end of mass to the other), it's a man-made phenomenon. The "Sea" was created by a breach in a dike:
It shouldn't have been there to begin with, and would have dried up anyway as there is little natural inflow into the dry lake bed (like since the last ice age).
Interestingly, there are a total of 34 Federal Superfund site in Massachusetts. Conversely, in California, a state with massive aerospace, military, and agrobusiness presences, there are a total of 94. 3 times more in a state 16 times larger, more populated, and with a military/industrial economy that dwarfs all of New England.
Although with offices in San Antonio and Houston, I wouldn't mind combining Texas taxation with California scenery and weather...
1. Earthquakes: California is a huge state and any one area feels maybe one good shaker a year. Maybe. I'll take that over the guaranteed annual blizzards, ice storms, nor'easters, etc. 30 seconds of shaking versus six months of guaranteed annual frozen misery (and no Z06 driving)?
2. Forest Fires: Again, big state. The Sonoma and Mendocino County fires were 450+ miles from my house, or the distance from Boston to Pittsburgh or Toronto. Even the Santa Barbara fires were a good 100 miles away from us. Conversely, if you live in the bay area, they were about 300 miles from you.
3. Drought: Yes, it happened. Once in my 54 years on this planet. Also, https://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/09/...gland-drought/
4. Smog: Yes, Los Angeles and the general metropolitan area has generally poor air quality, but it is MUCH better than it used to be (and improving), and 90% of the state isn't affected by it.
5. Salton Sea: Aside from being nearly 150 miles from my house (pretty much driving from one end of mass to the other), it's a man-made phenomenon. The "Sea" was created by a breach in a dike:
It shouldn't have been there to begin with, and would have dried up anyway as there is little natural inflow into the dry lake bed (like since the last ice age).
Interestingly, there are a total of 34 Federal Superfund site in Massachusetts. Conversely, in California, a state with massive aerospace, military, and agrobusiness presences, there are a total of 94. 3 times more in a state 16 times larger, more populated, and with a military/industrial economy that dwarfs all of New England.
Although with offices in San Antonio and Houston, I wouldn't mind combining Texas taxation with California scenery and weather...
But CA's economic climate keeps me from living there. I am sure I could find large areas in which I could be extremely comfortable but it's tax rates/lists are onerous relative to too many other jurisdictions. I am very fortunate in being able to pick where to live, which seasons, and where to incorporate and in no circumstances is CA the best place for my efforts or my family's presence.
Peace ...
06-30-2018, 03:24 AM
#112
Racer
But CA's economic climate keeps me from living there. I am sure I could find large areas in which I could be extremely comfortable but it's tax rates/lists are onerous relative to too many other jurisdictions. I am very fortunate in being able to pick where to live, which seasons, and where to incorporate and in no circumstances is CA the best place for my efforts or my family's presence.
Peace ...
Peace ...
06-30-2018, 03:25 AM
#113
Racer
07-21-2018, 06:47 PM
#114
Safety Car
Just got my 18-19 registration bill and it is only $789. Also a 16 Z06 Convertible with MSRP of $106,200. Don't know why the op had a $949 bill. Edit: My License fee was only $504 rather than his $660. If our tax law still had deductible Schedule As that would be a deductible number.
Last edited by pkincy; 07-21-2018 at 06:52 PM.
07-21-2018, 06:55 PM
#115
Instructor
Thread Starter
I’m in Los Angeles county where the tax is 9%... most California is around 7 to my knowledge... also my sticker was 110k
Last edited by Hmaringer; 07-21-2018 at 06:56 PM.
07-23-2018, 04:20 PM
#119
NH Live Free or Die 1 year registration on a '15 Z06 $876.00 the first year was like $1200.00 plus $8,000 a year in property tax.
My everyday car for 6 months was another $463.00
That's what happens when you don't have a Sales Tax or Income Tax you pay one way or another.
My everyday car for 6 months was another $463.00
That's what happens when you don't have a Sales Tax or Income Tax you pay one way or another.
