Vararam Intake claims 60 RWHP, any real world results?
10-09-2018, 01:15 PM
#181
Everything else can be worked around. You design your tube one way, we can use any other tube that has already been invented. The intake tube is not the key to this puzzle. Cheating the MAP is.
Our invention allows the stock tune to allow for more aggressive pullies, ported blowers and larger TB, we think it may even work with larger PD blowers.... on the stock tune.. running proper afr the entire time of 12.5
If your patent was already filed, your patent attorney would have given you the green light to discuss it in the public, as it would be officially patent pending.
The usa patent office is no longer first to invent... it is first to file.
Thus, we have won, and you have lost. And thus, why we are not scared to talk about it in public.
Your smug attitude is going to cause us to charge you a lot of money for the use of our product, whenever you finally wake up and realize how far behind you are.
Last edited by HessViper; 10-09-2018 at 01:29 PM.
10-09-2018, 01:44 PM
#182
Racer
The MAF does not need to be cheated if instead one cheats the MAP and the o2 sensors for the p0106 and the COT.
We will not discuss COT progress on this forum at this time
The MAP being cheated allows a customer to retain their factory warranty by avoiding the need to tune the vehicle to flow more air and make upwards of 800hp. This has never been done on these vehicles yet in the public realm. The vehicles stock tune is more than capable of handling 800hp worth of air flow past the MAF and will calculate proper afr as it does so, so long as the p0106 code is avoided. Avoiding an unnecessary tune can also save a customer over a thousand dollars in tune and dyno time, this financial benefit stacks on top of the customer may potentially preserve the warranty, as if the cheat device is removed, the stock tune will never sense it was there, so warranty is still in tact.
Judging by your posts thus far, we do not believe you are on the right track VR. You would have known about p0106 before you posted here, and/or you would have asked more questions about it. It has been summer, so you have not gotten a stock vehicle to p0106 at sea level, at least we do not believe you have, therefore, how could you understand it?
Once you realize we are right, you will realize a very specific circuit has to be constructed with exact values and intentions to cheat the MAP on the c7z06, to avoid the p0106 limp mode. Thus, the patent being filed as we speak.
Goodluck.
We will not discuss COT progress on this forum at this time
The MAP being cheated allows a customer to retain their factory warranty by avoiding the need to tune the vehicle to flow more air and make upwards of 800hp. This has never been done on these vehicles yet in the public realm. The vehicles stock tune is more than capable of handling 800hp worth of air flow past the MAF and will calculate proper afr as it does so, so long as the p0106 code is avoided. Avoiding an unnecessary tune can also save a customer over a thousand dollars in tune and dyno time, this financial benefit stacks on top of the customer may potentially preserve the warranty, as if the cheat device is removed, the stock tune will never sense it was there, so warranty is still in tact.
Judging by your posts thus far, we do not believe you are on the right track VR. You would have known about p0106 before you posted here, and/or you would have asked more questions about it. It has been summer, so you have not gotten a stock vehicle to p0106 at sea level, at least we do not believe you have, therefore, how could you understand it?
Once you realize we are right, you will realize a very specific circuit has to be constructed with exact values and intentions to cheat the MAP on the c7z06, to avoid the p0106 limp mode. Thus, the patent being filed as we speak.
Goodluck.
Now to the important stuff. Most if not ALL on the forum know who your Florida contact is. So you keep arguing or try to argue with a Vendor who has been on this forum for years saying that you and your Florida contact do not believe that they know what they are doing or understand what they are doing is ridiculous. Oh and I guess your both smarter or more knowledgeable about these cars than the GM Engineers also. So how come your Florida contact hasn't chimed in or is the statement in post #174 accurate! " Sounds like one of the former contributors on the Forum has found a puppet"
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10-09-2018, 01:58 PM
#183
we are already aligned with one of your most respected forum vendors, soon you will find out who that is. They have much more complex products for the c7z06 when it comes to tuning and fueling than VaraRam does.
Your car will hit p0106 if it has the stock tune and you run smaller pulleys and go to lower altitudes. As stated before, EVERY z06 has a map pressure limit of roughly 180kPa. The 17-19 have been raised ever so slightly, as their blower geometry was more efficient at flowing air and building pressure at the map than the 15 and 16's were. Thus GM had to update and raise their limits as the stock pulley vehicles were hitting the code, even on warmer days. The 15-16 still have a lower limit than the 17-19.
Either way, all stock tune z06 have the p0106 map pressure limit.
We will also be releasing our products soon. And the vendors we are already aligned with may surprise you.
The only reason I am in the mix is because I am familiar with filing patents. I've been personally doing this since the 90's, and have landed large contracts with Black & Decker and Home Depot several times in the past.
Your car will hit p0106 if it has the stock tune and you run smaller pulleys and go to lower altitudes. As stated before, EVERY z06 has a map pressure limit of roughly 180kPa. The 17-19 have been raised ever so slightly, as their blower geometry was more efficient at flowing air and building pressure at the map than the 15 and 16's were. Thus GM had to update and raise their limits as the stock pulley vehicles were hitting the code, even on warmer days. The 15-16 still have a lower limit than the 17-19.
Either way, all stock tune z06 have the p0106 map pressure limit.
We will also be releasing our products soon. And the vendors we are already aligned with may surprise you.
The only reason I am in the mix is because I am familiar with filing patents. I've been personally doing this since the 90's, and have landed large contracts with Black & Decker and Home Depot several times in the past.
Last edited by HessViper; 10-09-2018 at 02:06 PM.
10-09-2018, 02:04 PM
#184
Supporting Vendor
Not sure why or what you are trying to do out hear , but cheating the MAP is a known item and has been for years and years.
If you had truly intended to license "something" to Vararam why would you be out on a public forum discussing it?
Why not send an email ? or Make a phone call? That is what most people would do.
We sign NDA's all of the time when we do work for OEM's or private companies. They make phone calls and send emails.
I haven't received either one.
VR tech
If you had truly intended to license "something" to Vararam why would you be out on a public forum discussing it?
Why not send an email ? or Make a phone call? That is what most people would do.
We sign NDA's all of the time when we do work for OEM's or private companies. They make phone calls and send emails.
I haven't received either one.
VR tech
10-09-2018, 02:11 PM
#185
Picking business partners is an important process.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
Last edited by HessViper; 10-09-2018 at 02:14 PM.
10-09-2018, 02:30 PM
#186
Racer
Not sure why or what you are trying to do out hear , but cheating the MAP is a known item and has been for years and years.
If you had truly intended to license "something" to Vararam why would you be out on a public forum discussing it?
Why not send an email ? or Make a phone call? That is what most people would do.
We sign NDA's all of the time when we do work for OEM's or private companies. They make phone calls and send emails.
I haven't received either one.
VR tech
If you had truly intended to license "something" to Vararam why would you be out on a public forum discussing it?
Why not send an email ? or Make a phone call? That is what most people would do.
We sign NDA's all of the time when we do work for OEM's or private companies. They make phone calls and send emails.
I haven't received either one.
VR tech
from them. 
10-09-2018, 02:42 PM
#187
Supporting Vendor
WE figured that's what you were doing a long time ago.
After all, Instead of contacting us with an exciting new product, you have instead posted on an open forum.
You have only been a member for a short time , since August 2018 , with very few posts , allot of them are in this thread from what I can see. Your listed location is USA and that's it, but we know you are in FL and own a silver 2003 Viper.
We know just about every Tuner/ Builder and Competitor in FL.
I have to say I am with the other guy , your contact should post something.
VR tech
After all, Instead of contacting us with an exciting new product, you have instead posted on an open forum.
You have only been a member for a short time , since August 2018 , with very few posts , allot of them are in this thread from what I can see. Your listed location is USA and that's it, but we know you are in FL and own a silver 2003 Viper.
We know just about every Tuner/ Builder and Competitor in FL.
I have to say I am with the other guy , your contact should post something.
VR tech
10-09-2018, 02:58 PM
#188
Racer
Picking business partners is an important process.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
10-09-2018, 03:00 PM
#189
Racer
WE figured that's what you were doing a long time ago.
After all, Instead of contacting us with an exciting new product, you have instead posted on an open forum.
You have only been a member for a short time , since August 2018 , with very few posts , allot of them are in this thread from what I can see. Your listed location is USA and that's it, but we know you are in FL and own a silver 2003 Viper.
We know just about every Tuner/ Builder and Competitor in FL.
I have to say I am with the other guy , your contact should post something.
VR tech
After all, Instead of contacting us with an exciting new product, you have instead posted on an open forum.
You have only been a member for a short time , since August 2018 , with very few posts , allot of them are in this thread from what I can see. Your listed location is USA and that's it, but we know you are in FL and own a silver 2003 Viper.
We know just about every Tuner/ Builder and Competitor in FL.
I have to say I am with the other guy , your contact should post something.
VR tech
Awesome
10-09-2018, 04:58 PM
#190
Burning Brakes
It's mikec7z reincarnate!
A simple map clamp / voltage clamp will do this and has been used for 15+ years now dating back to the SRT4s, either way that isn't fixing the driver demand tables nor the peak torque tables that the MAF references as well. If you call that proprietary you really don't have a clue what you are dealing with here.
You either cheat the MAF/MAP and skew the AFR or you don't, you can't have it both ways...
You either cheat the MAF/MAP and skew the AFR or you don't, you can't have it both ways...
Last edited by NicD; 10-09-2018 at 04:59 PM.
10-09-2018, 05:34 PM
#191
Team Owner
The only proprietary information of genuine usefulness is how to properly cheat the map sensor.
Everything else can be worked around. You design your tube one way, we can use any other tube that has already been invented. The intake tube is not the key to this puzzle. Cheating the MAP is.
Our invention allows the stock tune to allow for more aggressive pullies, ported blowers and larger TB, we think it may even work with larger PD blowers.... on the stock tune.. running proper afr the entire time of 12.5
If your patent was already filed, your patent attorney would have given you the green light to discuss it in the public, as it would be officially patent pending.
The usa patent office is no longer first to invent... it is first to file.
Thus, we have won, and you have lost. And thus, why we are not scared to talk about it in public.
Your smug attitude is going to cause us to charge you a lot of money for the use of our product, whenever you finally wake up and realize how far behind you are.
Everything else can be worked around. You design your tube one way, we can use any other tube that has already been invented. The intake tube is not the key to this puzzle. Cheating the MAP is.
Our invention allows the stock tune to allow for more aggressive pullies, ported blowers and larger TB, we think it may even work with larger PD blowers.... on the stock tune.. running proper afr the entire time of 12.5
If your patent was already filed, your patent attorney would have given you the green light to discuss it in the public, as it would be officially patent pending.
The usa patent office is no longer first to invent... it is first to file.
Thus, we have won, and you have lost. And thus, why we are not scared to talk about it in public.
Your smug attitude is going to cause us to charge you a lot of money for the use of our product, whenever you finally wake up and realize how far behind you are.
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10-09-2018, 05:35 PM
#192
Team Owner
It's mikec7z reincarnate!
A simple map clamp / voltage clamp will do this and has been used for 15+ years now dating back to the SRT4s, either way that isn't fixing the driver demand tables nor the peak torque tables that the MAF references as well. If you call that proprietary you really don't have a clue what you are dealing with here.
You either cheat the MAF/MAP and skew the AFR or you don't, you can't have it both ways...
A simple map clamp / voltage clamp will do this and has been used for 15+ years now dating back to the SRT4s, either way that isn't fixing the driver demand tables nor the peak torque tables that the MAF references as well. If you call that proprietary you really don't have a clue what you are dealing with here.
You either cheat the MAF/MAP and skew the AFR or you don't, you can't have it both ways...
Back again! Still knows everything and more ! Wonder how the new 19 for the lemon is coming?
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 10-09-2018 at 05:38 PM.
10-09-2018, 06:08 PM
#193
Drifting
This guy will stop at nothing to be the biggest tool on the forum and that takes a lot. I hope the moderators see this for what it is, a know it all bashing excellent vendors in this site. It is those vendors who make our cars even more enjoyable than we could imagine. Hess/Mike or whoever you are, put up or shut up. Better yet take a hike and leave he product development and tuning to real shops.
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10-10-2018, 10:20 AM
#194
Burning Brakes
Picking business partners is an important process.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
Part of making that decision may involve seeing if a person has any idea what they are talking about before they make promises to customers... or have no idea.
This discussion was not to convince you we are right, it was to see if you actually understood how the cars worked, since you have been leading customers on that you have a "new solution" which yields much more power.
Its impossible to make more power once the p0106 limit is hit. You should have had a p0106 solution for cars on stock tunes specifically, to make the gain claims that you have about cars with stock tunes.
You may have just failed an important test in our eyes. One of us even took the time to warn you a while back, and you shrugged it off as nonsense or that you were well beyond him.
We will see who is beyond who soon. Your smugness did you no favors with us. Maybe it will work out with other business ventures and potential partnerships. Here, it has not.
Last edited by jstewart; 10-10-2018 at 10:22 AM.
10-10-2018, 12:25 PM
#195
You have proven that, to the best of your knowledge, what we have is patentable. So has everyone else we spoke to about "existing" technology.
As for the claims that Mike and I are the same person, I find it astounding that so many people are against the reality of the p0106 code's existence and its intended purpose, and thus, its importance to the stock GM C7Z06 tune in conjunction with adding aftermarket parts which flow additional air, more so than the stock components do, so much, that if any 2 people on this forum agree p0106 is a real pressure limit code and still exists on a vehicle after the GM reflash for the 17-18 as indeed an obstacle in making more power on the stock tune, that you all seem to jump to the conclusion that any and all of those user accounts which agree on this point, must all be Mike.
We look forward to your claims that Mike took over one of your top vendor's corvette forum accounts when that vendor also confirms our discoveries and begins to market the solution we are currently testing and producing.
It clearly demonstrates how many people here do not understand p0106 in the least.
This will be our last post here until the unveiling of what we have discovered and the solution our team has come up with. As said before, we are aligned with, in our opinion, the best and most innovative vendor on this forum in the realm of adding safe additional power to your vehicles. Our purpose of posting here originally, was genuinely to assist VaraRam come out with a great product, the intent was not to out-do them. But they rubbed someone wrong, and as VaraRam put it many times, they do not need any of our help and are apparently miles beyond all of us... and have "proprietary designs", even while, this indicates a filed patent, and if their patent was filed, they would have no negative repercussions for sharing their proprietary design or ideas on an open forum.
Thus, simple logic says that one or the other is not indeed a true statement on their behalf.
There comes a point where someone decided it is no longer logical to assist vendors or individuals understand the solution and give it to them for free, when all they do is mock him as he attempts to help and solve an obstacle that hinders all of our goals. His intent now I believe is... you will pay he and his team for the solution.
Have a good one everyone.
I bid you all good luck in learning how your corvettes function. This is my last post here.
Last edited by HessViper; 10-10-2018 at 01:07 PM.
10-10-2018, 01:09 PM
#196
Team Owner
The fact that you and everyone else we have encountered along the way as we took on this project, also shares the same point of view that you just expressed above, is why we believe what we have discovered is new and not public domain knowledge yet.
You have proven that, to the best of your knowledge, what we have is patentable.
As for the claims that Mike and I are the same person, I find it astounding that so many people are against the reality of the p0106 code's existence and its intended purpose, and thus, its importance to the stock GM C7Z06 tune in conjunction with adding aftermarket parts which flow additional air, more so than stock components, so much, that if any 2 people on this forum agree p0106 is a real pressure limit code and still exists on a vehicle after the GM reflash for the 17-18, that you all seem to jump to the conclusion that any and all of those user accounts must be Mike.
We look forward to your claims that Mike took over one of your top vendors accounts when they confirm our discoveries and start to market the solution.
It clearly demonstrates how many people here do not understand p0106 in the least.
This will be our last post here until the unveiling of what we have discovered and the solution our team has come up with. As said before, we are aligned with, in our opinion, the best and most innovative vendor on this forum. Our purpose of posting here originally was to assist VaraRam come out with a great product, but as VaraRam put it many times, they do not need our help and are apparently miles beyond all of us... and have "proprietary designs", even while, this indicates a filed patent, and if their patent was filed, they would have no negative repercussions for sharing their proprietary design or ideas on an open forum.
Thus, simple logic says that one or the other is not indeed a true statement on their behalf.
Have a good one everyone.
I bid you all good luck in learning how your corvettes function. This is my last post here.
You have proven that, to the best of your knowledge, what we have is patentable.
As for the claims that Mike and I are the same person, I find it astounding that so many people are against the reality of the p0106 code's existence and its intended purpose, and thus, its importance to the stock GM C7Z06 tune in conjunction with adding aftermarket parts which flow additional air, more so than stock components, so much, that if any 2 people on this forum agree p0106 is a real pressure limit code and still exists on a vehicle after the GM reflash for the 17-18, that you all seem to jump to the conclusion that any and all of those user accounts must be Mike.
We look forward to your claims that Mike took over one of your top vendors accounts when they confirm our discoveries and start to market the solution.
It clearly demonstrates how many people here do not understand p0106 in the least.
This will be our last post here until the unveiling of what we have discovered and the solution our team has come up with. As said before, we are aligned with, in our opinion, the best and most innovative vendor on this forum. Our purpose of posting here originally was to assist VaraRam come out with a great product, but as VaraRam put it many times, they do not need our help and are apparently miles beyond all of us... and have "proprietary designs", even while, this indicates a filed patent, and if their patent was filed, they would have no negative repercussions for sharing their proprietary design or ideas on an open forum.
Thus, simple logic says that one or the other is not indeed a true statement on their behalf.
Have a good one everyone.
I bid you all good luck in learning how your corvettes function. This is my last post here.
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Its his last post!! I guess the strings came off of the puppet!
10-10-2018, 01:38 PM
#198
Team Owner
The puppet master and puppet are one in the same person. Contact in Florida, Mystery fast guy are all a dupe All are one! Not hardly the end of this, the saga will go on. Next we will hear about the TUNE TRICK TOOL which must be the somehow related to working GM for LEMON cars. Still waiting to see the lemon plan bare fruit.
10-10-2018, 04:09 PM
#199
Drifting
He sounds like some evil overlord. "There comes a point where someone decided it is no longer logical to assist vendors or individuals understand the solution and give it to them for free, when all they do is mock him as he attempts to help and solve an obstacle that hinders all of our goals. His intent now I believe is... you will pay he and his team for the solution." No one will PAY this guy for anything because he has nothing. Amazing the C7Z has been out for 5 years and this "solution" is now being discovered. Sounds like snake oil, voodoo, and a bad infomercial, all wrapped into one. We call this "delusions of grandeur".
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10-10-2018, 04:11 PM
#200
Drifting