Z07 Carbon ceramics for sale/trade
07-12-2018, 01:04 PM
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Yes the CCB are known for making sounds when they are not very hot. From the research I have done, I have found after market pads for the iron brakes that dont dust as much but I really dont care about brake dust at all, im going out a lot of miles on the car and its bound to get dirty
If you buy the car and make the change over to iron brakes and sell the ceramics you will destroy the value of the car on the used market. A used Z07 may not be all that much more valuable than a non Z07 after 3 or 4 years but a used Z07 without its ceramic brakes will definitely be worth a lot less than a non Z07 with iron brakes.
If you plan on tracking the car the ceramic brakes are great brakes. However, the consumable cost is high due to needing to replace the front rotors every 13 to 15 track days and the need to replace the rear rotors every 20 of so track days. That is instructor level driving not novice level driving.
The idea is to remove the ceramic brake package and go with an aftermarket iron rotor race package while storing the ceramics. When you go to sell the car you put the ceramics back on and sell the aftermarket kit. For track people that is the lowest cost way to get the braking required when slowing a 3560 lb Z06 from 150+ mph to 50 mph.
Bill
07-12-2018, 01:25 PM
#23
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What you are thinking of doing is F'ing up a nice car. If your driving is limited to street and highway driving (even 100K plus miles) more than likely the pads and rotors will last the lifetime of the car. Some people may complain about brake squeal but most in the know don't give a crap about it as it is meaningless on a ceramic rotor car. If the brake pad wears down to the backing plate there won't be any squeal or noise like an iron brake rotor car would have.
If you buy the car and make the change over to iron brakes and sell the ceramics you will destroy the value of the car on the used market. A used Z07 may not be all that much more valuable than a non Z07 after 3 or 4 years but a used Z07 without its ceramic brakes will definitely be worth a lot less than a non Z07 with iron brakes.
If you plan on tracking the car the ceramic brakes are great brakes. However, the consumable cost is high due to needing to replace the front rotors every 13 to 15 track days and the need to replace the rear rotors every 20 of so track days. That is instructor level driving not novice level driving.
The idea is to remove the ceramic brake package and go with an aftermarket iron rotor race package while storing the ceramics. When you go to sell the car you put the ceramics back on and sell the aftermarket kit. For track people that is the lowest cost way to get the braking required when slowing a 3560 lb Z06 from 150+ mph to 50 mph.
Bill
If you buy the car and make the change over to iron brakes and sell the ceramics you will destroy the value of the car on the used market. A used Z07 may not be all that much more valuable than a non Z07 after 3 or 4 years but a used Z07 without its ceramic brakes will definitely be worth a lot less than a non Z07 with iron brakes.
If you plan on tracking the car the ceramic brakes are great brakes. However, the consumable cost is high due to needing to replace the front rotors every 13 to 15 track days and the need to replace the rear rotors every 20 of so track days. That is instructor level driving not novice level driving.
The idea is to remove the ceramic brake package and go with an aftermarket iron rotor race package while storing the ceramics. When you go to sell the car you put the ceramics back on and sell the aftermarket kit. For track people that is the lowest cost way to get the braking required when slowing a 3560 lb Z06 from 150+ mph to 50 mph.
Bill
07-12-2018, 01:49 PM
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I have the complete opposite experience. Love the CCBs in every way but for the noise. I know some people swear they're silent but the vast majority are anything but. I've never heard a silent pair of CCBs in person from any manufacturer for that matter. Beyond the brake noise in slow traffic, they're absolutely amazing though...
08-19-2018, 08:35 PM
#25
Good info. I am currently looking at a 17 Z with the ceramic package. I didn't realize they produced less brake dust than the iron set up that I had on my 16 Z. Thanks for the feed back.
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08-20-2018, 12:57 AM
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Burning Brakes
To thread starter: If you have not bought the car yet and don't want the CCB, find a different car to purchase. You are going about this for all the wrong reasons. May sound harsh but you will regret doing what you are planning to do in one way or another.
08-20-2018, 02:58 AM
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What you are thinking of doing is F'ing up a nice car. If your driving is limited to street and highway driving (even 100K plus miles) more than likely the pads and rotors will last the lifetime of the car. Some people may complain about brake squeal but most in the know don't give a crap about it as it is meaningless on a ceramic rotor car. If the brake pad wears down to the backing plate there won't be any squeal or noise like an iron brake rotor car would have.
If you buy the car and make the change over to iron brakes and sell the ceramics you will destroy the value of the car on the used market. A used Z07 may not be all that much more valuable than a non Z07 after 3 or 4 years but a used Z07 without its ceramic brakes will definitely be worth a lot less than a non Z07 with iron brakes.
If you plan on tracking the car the ceramic brakes are great brakes. However, the consumable cost is high due to needing to replace the front rotors every 13 to 15 track days and the need to replace the rear rotors every 20 of so track days. That is instructor level driving not novice level driving.
The idea is to remove the ceramic brake package and go with an aftermarket iron rotor race package while storing the ceramics. When you go to sell the car you put the ceramics back on and sell the aftermarket kit. For track people that is the lowest cost way to get the braking required when slowing a 3560 lb Z06 from 150+ mph to 50 mph.
Bill
If you buy the car and make the change over to iron brakes and sell the ceramics you will destroy the value of the car on the used market. A used Z07 may not be all that much more valuable than a non Z07 after 3 or 4 years but a used Z07 without its ceramic brakes will definitely be worth a lot less than a non Z07 with iron brakes.
If you plan on tracking the car the ceramic brakes are great brakes. However, the consumable cost is high due to needing to replace the front rotors every 13 to 15 track days and the need to replace the rear rotors every 20 of so track days. That is instructor level driving not novice level driving.
The idea is to remove the ceramic brake package and go with an aftermarket iron rotor race package while storing the ceramics. When you go to sell the car you put the ceramics back on and sell the aftermarket kit. For track people that is the lowest cost way to get the braking required when slowing a 3560 lb Z06 from 150+ mph to 50 mph.
Bill
EDIT: Another reference directly from brembo:
http://www.brembo.com/en/company/new...-brembo-brakes
Last edited by X25; 08-20-2018 at 03:01 AM.
08-20-2018, 10:28 AM
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I did buy the car with the CCB'S and love the brakes and will not change them, and sometimes you get a deal that you cant pass up on so the plans change
01-18-2019, 09:45 PM
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I just bought a C7 Z06 w/Z07, moved up from a C6 Z07...was concerned about CCB replacement costs due to @ 10 track days per year. Your answer gave me clarity, thanks.
01-19-2019, 12:25 AM
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Do you think the CCB are worth buying with a brand new car with the[ stand alone option price of $6,500-$7,000[ don't remember exactly how much ] for just regular driving with never planning on tracking the car? I feel it would be better to just get the standard steel rotors and just change to ceramic brake pads. People make it seem like the steel rotors suck or something, but actually there very good. If you could afford them because they look cool and have there advantages for your purpose great. I just don't think it's worth it unless $$ is no issue and you just want them to look cooler. But from a financial point of view I don't think so Thoughts
01-19-2019, 12:06 PM
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Do you think the CCB are worth buying with a brand new car with the[ stand alone option price of $6,500-$7,000[ don't remember exactly how much ] for just regular driving with never planning on tracking the car? I feel it would be better to just get the standard steel rotors and just change to ceramic brake pads. People make it seem like the steel rotors suck or something, but actually there very good. If you could afford them because they look cool and have there advantages for your purpose great. I just don't think it's worth it unless $$ is no issue and you just want them to look cooler. But from a financial point of view I don't think so Thoughts
Bill
01-19-2019, 01:19 PM
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I got the carbon brakes on mine so I wouldn't have to clean my wheels so much, also ceramic coated the wheels because I am a true waxer.
They have squeaked a couple times in the starbucks drive through but it's a small price to pay for such clean wheels.
They have squeaked a couple times in the starbucks drive through but it's a small price to pay for such clean wheels.
01-19-2019, 01:45 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
Yeah, mine started making noise at about 8500 miles. Dealer took a stab at resolving the problem with a reapplication of copper pad lube but no joy. It comes and goes, but when it's making noise it can sound like an old bus coming up to a stop. Dead silent when I press harder but make a lot of noise when I ease up to a stop.
01-21-2019, 07:39 AM
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keep the ceramic brakes. They’ll last a long time. Probably 150k on the pads. The rotors should never wear out so long as you keep good pads on it. Or put steel rotors on with power stop z26 pads and keep the original ceramics for down the road if you sell the car. If it’s a z07 your better off putting it to 100 percent stock with the ceramic brakes when selling it.
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 01-21-2019 at 07:39 AM.
