First time at the drag strip 2016 Z06
08-09-2018, 03:26 PM
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First time at the drag strip 2016 Z06
I went to the Rt66 Race your ride on Aug 3rd. I teched in at 11.50 with just a helmet. The tech inspector said with a fire jacket I'd be good for 10.0 because the car is stock. I ended up running an 11.677 at 126.35 mph with a 2.177 60 foot, with the suspension in tour, trans in D, and TC on. I drove around the water box and didn't do a burnout, just left the line at 2k and hammered it. The car is mostly stock with a BMS air filter, Mamo ported TB, and Akrapovic exhaust. Time for a fire jacket! : )
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08-09-2018, 05:54 PM
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I went to the Rt66 Race your ride on Aug 3rd. I teched in at 11.50 with just a helmet. The tech inspector said with a fire jacket I'd be good for 10.0 because the car is stock. I ended up running an 11.677 at 126.35 mph with a 2.177 60 foot, with the suspension in tour, trans in D, and TSC on. I drove around the water box and didn't do a burnout, just left the line at 2k and hammered it. The car is mostly stock with a BMS air filter, Mamo ported TB, and Akrapovic exhaust. Time for a fire jacket! : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPK_xdi_LOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPK_xdi_LOA
Helmet is required, however.
08-09-2018, 06:06 PM
#5
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It's stage 2 aero. I also have the track front brake cooling kit and a powersteering cooling vent. They might add a little drag.
Next time I'll try a burnout and launch without TC.
Next time I'll try a burnout and launch without TC.
08-09-2018, 06:18 PM
#6
Drifting
Nice run!
You got a little wheel spin on the launch.
A burn-out will give you a better 60', you should be able to get into the 1.6's to 1.7's.
For every .01 reduction in the 60' time is equal to at least .02 in the 1/4.
You got a little wheel spin on the launch.
A burn-out will give you a better 60', you should be able to get into the 1.6's to 1.7's.
For every .01 reduction in the 60' time is equal to at least .02 in the 1/4.
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08-09-2018, 10:31 PM
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Lower your tire pressure to 26psi, do a burn out, turn off tc-tap once and leave at almost idle...10.70s..boom!
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08-09-2018, 10:37 PM
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I was there that night. Ran 11.140. My best time at RT66 was 10.800.
I do a little burn out then leave Traction Control off.
Maybe I will see you there next time.
I do a little burn out then leave Traction Control off.
Maybe I will see you there next time.
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08-10-2018, 10:45 AM
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Tech guy was wrong regarding fire Jacket. The fire jacket applies to NON OEM supercharged cars. The Z06 is OEM supercharged so fire jacket is not mandated on cars running 10:00 to 13:99. Tell him to consult the Summit Racing series rules; section 10 under protective clothing.
Helmet is required, however.
Helmet is required, however.
Basic NHRA Safety Rules v072015
This is general information only and you should always refer to the current "Official NHRA Rule Book".
Street Cars The following items are required for a vehicle and driver to pass tech: Good tires, a solid battery hold down, radiator overflow reservoir, functioning neutral-safety switch, seat belts, and a valid state driver's license or NHRA competition license for all participants. The driver must wear long pants, closed toe shoes, and a shirt.
13.99 seconds (8.59 1/8th)
Drive Line Loop with slicks
Approved helmet (Full face in open cars), see below
SFI 3.2A/1 Jacket in vehicles equipped with non-OEM nitrous oxide, turbochargers or superchargers
13.49 seconds (8.25 1/8th)
Roll bar in convertibles
SFI seat belts in convertibles
11.99 seconds (7.49 1/8th)
Steel Valve Stems
Arm Restraints (open cars)
11.49 seconds (7.35 1/8th)
SFI 1.1 or 1.2 Flywheel / Clutch
SFI 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 or 9.1 Flywheel shield
SFI 3.2A/1 approved jacket
6 point roll bar
SFI approved seat belts
10.99 seconds (6.99 1/8th) or Super Street
SFI 4.1 Transmission Shield, or at 135 mph
Locking transmission dipstick tube
Aftermarket axles and axle retainers
SFI Harmonic Balancer
Roll Cage with altered floor pans, or 135 mph - Window net required
Ignition cut-off on all bikes / snowmobiles that exceed 135 mph
9.99 seconds (6.39 1/8th) or Super Gas or 135 mph
NHRA Chassis Certification
NHRA Competition License
SFI jacket & pants 3.2A/5
SFI neck collar & gloves 3.3/1
SFI 29.1 flexplate / 30.1 flexplate shield (AT equipped cars)
Full Face Helmet meeting Snell or SFI specifications
150 mph
Parachute
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08-10-2018, 11:38 AM
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NHRA rules
NHRA rules supersede Summit Racing rules (which you are wrong about also)...
Summit Racing Series ET rules are NHRA rules. What you are referring to does not apply to newer unaltered OEM cars. I know this for a fact because as the former NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing, I was instrumental in establishing the street legal rules. Section XIV of the 2018 NHRA rule book for STREET LEGAL paragraph five reads as follows:
Summit Racing Series ET rules are NHRA rules. What you are referring to does not apply to newer unaltered OEM cars. I know this for a fact because as the former NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing, I was instrumental in establishing the street legal rules. Section XIV of the 2018 NHRA rule book for STREET LEGAL paragraph five reads as follows:
"Additionally, requirements and specifications for Street Legal are the same as those for the Summit Racing Series with the following exception. Unaltered 2008 OEM model-year and newer production cars running slower than 9.99 and 135 mph do not have to meet the requirements and specifications for the Summit Racing Series except for the following: Convertibles and T-tops must meet Summit Racing Series roll-bar and roll-cage requirements.Note: Tires used may be other than OEM, but they must be DOT-approved. Other changes/modifications to items such as but not limited to intake air systems, exhaust systems,computer programming from the factory OEM equipment are considered “alterations.” As such, 2008 and newer vehicles with changes/modifications must meet the Summit Racing Series rules.All drivers must meet the Summit Racing Series helmet and protective-clothing requirements".
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08-10-2018, 04:04 PM
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NHRA rules supersede Summit Racing rules (which you are wrong about also)...
Summit Racing Series ET rules are NHRA rules. What you are referring to does not apply to newer unaltered OEM cars. I know this for a fact because as the former NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing, I was instrumental in establishing the street legal rules. Section XIV of the 2018 NHRA rule book for STREET LEGAL paragraph five reads as follows:
Summit Racing Series ET rules are NHRA rules. What you are referring to does not apply to newer unaltered OEM cars. I know this for a fact because as the former NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing, I was instrumental in establishing the street legal rules. Section XIV of the 2018 NHRA rule book for STREET LEGAL paragraph five reads as follows:
"Additionally, requirements and specifications for Street Legal are the same as those for the Summit Racing Series with the following exception. Unaltered 2008 OEM model-year and newer production cars running slower than 9.99 and 135 mph do not have to meet the requirements and specifications for the Summit Racing Series except for the following: Convertibles and T-tops must meet Summit Racing Series roll-bar and roll-cage requirements.Note: Tires used may be other than OEM, but they must be DOT-approved. Other changes/modifications to items such as but not limited to intake air systems, exhaust systems,computer programming from the factory OEM equipment are considered “alterations.” As such, 2008 and newer vehicles with changes/modifications must meet the Summit Racing Series rules.All drivers must meet the Summit Racing Series helmet and protective-clothing requirements".
08-10-2018, 04:59 PM
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Unaltered 2008 and newer cars do not need a rollbar up to 9.99 but the driver still needs to wear a helmet and jacket if faster than 11.49. We are talking about the jacket here. According to Summit ET racing rules, an unaltered car 2008 or newer can only run as fast as 11.49 during Pro eliminations but NHRA rules allow this car to run slower than 9.99 in stock form outside of the Summit ET series.
"Full-length pants; short or long-sleeved shirt; closed shoes;and socks. No shorts. No tank tops. No open-toe or open-heel shoes or sandals. Synthetic clothing not recommended." The jacket rule applies to NON-OEM SUPERCHARGED CARS, as indicated in the 12th paragraph.
Also, what "pro eliminations" are you talking about??? We were talking about running a street legal Z06 at local NHRA tracks during weekly events.
Also, what "pro eliminations" are you talking about??? We were talking about running a street legal Z06 at local NHRA tracks during weekly events.
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08-10-2018, 08:23 PM
#13
Race Director
You are the one who brought up the Summit ET series rules. The Z06 cannot run in the Pro category (in a Summit series race) faster than 11.50. You should know that. You wrote the rules. I agree that a stock 2018 and newer Z06 can run on any other nhra event to 10 seconds.
08-10-2018, 08:51 PM
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Tech guy was wrong regarding fire Jacket. The fire jacket applies to NON OEM supercharged cars. The Z06 is OEM supercharged so fire jacket is not mandated on cars running 10:00 to 13:99. Tell him to consult the Summit Racing series rules; section 10 under protective clothing.
Helmet is required, however.
Helmet is required, however.
One of the problems regarding the relaxed rules is that not all tracks seem to implement them the same. Using Sacramento and Sonoma as an example again, I'm not allowed to run in Pro or Super Pro and go faster than 11.50 without a cage regardless of whether I have a helmet and jacket. The even stranger thing is that several of the staff at Sacramento mistakenly thought that I could run my 2015 Z06 in any class at any race just as long as I had a helmet, jacket and stayed above 10.00 and only became aware of that fact after telling them how Sonoma was enforcing the rules.
The one exception where I was allowed to run in Pro with the 2015 was when I purposely slowed the car down to run slower than 11.50 (don't ask me how, it was kinda hokey how I did it).
08-10-2018, 10:02 PM
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You are the one who brought up the Summit ET series rules. The Z06 cannot run in the Pro category (in a Summit series race) faster than 11.50. You should know that. You wrote the rules. I agree that a stock 2018 and newer Z06 can run on any other nhra event to 10 seconds.
"Additionally, requirements and specifications for Street Legal are the same as those for the Summit Racing Series with the following exception".........on and on. No, of course you cannot run a stock Z06 in the Summit ET Super Pro or Pro categories without conforming to a number of different rules.
The bottom line regarding the original issue is this: a fire jacket is not required to run a stock Z06 coupe in street legal events as long as you do not run quicker than 10:00. Subfloor@centurytrans is correct, many tech staff track members do not totally understand the rules covering street legal vs Summit ET rules. The rules can be very convoluted the way the NHRA rule book is written
The bottom line regarding the original issue is this: a fire jacket is not required to run a stock Z06 coupe in street legal events as long as you do not run quicker than 10:00. Subfloor@centurytrans is correct, many tech staff track members do not totally understand the rules covering street legal vs Summit ET rules. The rules can be very convoluted the way the NHRA rule book is written
08-10-2018, 10:19 PM
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[QUOTE=subfloor@centurytrans;1597769548]The tech guy was correct regarding the fire jacket, as this has been my experience running my 2015 Z06 at both Sacramento and Sonoma. The relaxed rules regarding 2008 and newer cars applies to the cars themselves, not whether or not it has an OEM blower. Case in point - a good driver could easily get into the high 10's with a 2008 or newer Z06 which is naturally aspirated and as such is required to wear one.
No, the tech guy was not correct if the OP was running in Street Legal. If Sacramento and Sonoma are requiring you too wear a fire jacket in street legal, they are doing so at their own discretion, which they can do. Yes, it would be required in Summit ET Pro. However, there are a number of tracks, that do not mandate the fire jacket for 2008 and newer OEM street legal cars, as indicated in the NHRA rulebook. You are correct, not all tracks seem to implement rules the same. The street legal rules were established to allow many of the newer faster cars such as the Z06, Vipers, Hellcats, GTR's and others to run without being pigeon holed into the various ET class rules that many of the local tracks run at weekend events. Unfortunately some tracks continue to disregard street legal rules and force you to abide by their ET class rules.
No, the tech guy was not correct if the OP was running in Street Legal. If Sacramento and Sonoma are requiring you too wear a fire jacket in street legal, they are doing so at their own discretion, which they can do. Yes, it would be required in Summit ET Pro. However, there are a number of tracks, that do not mandate the fire jacket for 2008 and newer OEM street legal cars, as indicated in the NHRA rulebook. You are correct, not all tracks seem to implement rules the same. The street legal rules were established to allow many of the newer faster cars such as the Z06, Vipers, Hellcats, GTR's and others to run without being pigeon holed into the various ET class rules that many of the local tracks run at weekend events. Unfortunately some tracks continue to disregard street legal rules and force you to abide by their ET class rules.
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