R888/R888Rs in the rain?
10-31-2018, 07:16 AM
#21
Drifting
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Had to look up tail of the dragon as I've never heard of that before. Looks like a fun area to take some corners. I'm absolutely shocked you could pull .9Gs on a wet road though, regardless of where it is. I would have never thought that possible on the PSSs. Hell I turn into my neighborhood too fast and the *** end goes slipping out with the traction control going crazy trying to correct. Maybe it's just my power application.
10-31-2018, 10:31 AM
#22
Melting Slicks
Drove back from VIR with 18” R888R’s (315F/335R) in the pouring rain and standing water on the highway. Scared the hell out of me. Car kept pulling into every puddle. No bueno. Wet roads are not an issue at all though.
Last tire I had that kicked *** in the rain was GY GS3’s. They stuck like glue. Actually had a guy spin out trying to follow me around a corner in my 2004 CTS-V. That might be the last time GY made that tire.
Last tire I had that kicked *** in the rain was GY GS3’s. They stuck like glue. Actually had a guy spin out trying to follow me around a corner in my 2004 CTS-V. That might be the last time GY made that tire.
10-31-2018, 10:51 AM
#23
Drifting
Thread Starter
Yeah that standing water will getcha on most tires. It's definitely scary. Looked up that goodyear tire. Looks like they still make it, but it's called GSD3. Given the tread patter, I can certainly see it clearing some water, but they biggest they make it now is a 295/30/18 according to tirerack, which is way to narrow and too small a rim
10-31-2018, 11:32 AM
#24
Melting Slicks
Again, talking about the Conti ECS tires....
Ask most serious autocrossers which tires is best in the rain for autocross.... Hoosier H20....
then ask which is second best... Conti ECS.
And they are also very good in the dry.
Ask most serious autocrossers which tires is best in the rain for autocross.... Hoosier H20....
then ask which is second best... Conti ECS.
And they are also very good in the dry.
Last edited by NTMD8R; 10-31-2018 at 11:32 AM.
10-31-2018, 11:36 AM
#25
Drifting
Thread Starter
I appreciate the feedback, but honestly there are only 2 tires I'd get at this point. The R888s/R888Rs or the factory PSSs since I can get them in run flats. I'm not looking for what overall tire is best in the rain, just whether the Toyos hold up as well as the Michelins because I know they're FAR better for 0-60/60ft times and that's what I want. I'm asking (as the name of the thread indicates) how the Toyos perform in the wet. I don't care about any other tires, wet or dry.
10-31-2018, 11:45 AM
#26
Drifting
Thread Starter
Well, let me amend that. If there's a tire that gets the dry launching traction of a drag radial AND is better in the rain than the PSSs, I would definitely like to hear about that, but I don't think that exists
10-31-2018, 02:44 PM
#27
I worked up to those cornering speeds on the roads going to the Tail of the Dragon, there are some great roads in that area that don't have much traffic. The tires are nearly new, camber is .5 to .6 negative all around and rear caster is +.6 (some think that matters). The only time the rear got loose was coming out of a corner when accelerating too hard. At Spring Mountain we practiced emergency braking and turns on wet pavement, so I knew the tires performed well. I'm not a drag racer, hope you find tires that meet your needs.
11-02-2018, 04:22 PM
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Between Google search and browsing/searching the forum here, I've found a ton of stuff about R888s and R888Rs, and some of that does include mention of driving in the rain. The general sentiment is "don't do it" but that also seems to be the general sentiment of the factory PSS/SC2s, so I have to take that with a grain of salt. I've seen a few videos of people driving with the R888Rs in the rain, but they gun it and when they get wheel spin, they're like "oh this tire is terrible in the rain". Obviously when you're putting down the torque a C7 Z06 puts down, you can't use the throttle as an on/off switch even in dry weather much less rain. What I'm looking for is anyone that has real experience driving in rain or just wet roads with the R888Rs and how they compare to the PSSs. Do you seem to hydroplane more often? Does the rear end slide out easier around a corner? My Z06 is my daily driver so "you shouldn't drive in the rain with these cars" is just going to fall on deaf ears. I've got to replace 2 wheels and I need new tires, so I figured I could get the R888Rs in the 345/30/19s and call it a win. I think the R888s would be better for wet, but it appears they've discontinued it the 19/20 sizes for our car, so I guess that's out (unless someone knows differently?). Any actual experience with these tires in the wet being shared would be greatly appreciated.
Bill
11-03-2018, 04:27 AM
#30
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I have R888Rs on just the rear of my Z and got
caught in some light rain (little to no standing water that I can remember) and it handled just fine. I actually was coming on to an open road and got in the middle with no cars around and gave it a little bit of gas and didn’t spin at all. Again, no where close to half throttle but enough for me to be surprised it didn’t break loose. I also had a pair of R888s (slightly different tread pattern) on an 03 cobra making 600+ hp/tq to the tire and got caught in w heavy rain storm with standing water and had no issues whatsoever. Also, I could accelerate decently well without spinning. For what it’s worth Toyo marks these as competition tires for dry/wet surfaces.
-Jason
caught in some light rain (little to no standing water that I can remember) and it handled just fine. I actually was coming on to an open road and got in the middle with no cars around and gave it a little bit of gas and didn’t spin at all. Again, no where close to half throttle but enough for me to be surprised it didn’t break loose. I also had a pair of R888s (slightly different tread pattern) on an 03 cobra making 600+ hp/tq to the tire and got caught in w heavy rain storm with standing water and had no issues whatsoever. Also, I could accelerate decently well without spinning. For what it’s worth Toyo marks these as competition tires for dry/wet surfaces.
-Jason
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