As suspected
11-13-2018, 07:00 PM
#61
Safety Car
One of the dumbest threads in a while, but not surprising given who started it.
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11-13-2018, 07:07 PM
#62
I didn't think of that.
We arent upset, just having fun with the nonsense.
But seriously trying to logically justify why a 650 hp car would lose ground to a car with 145 hp less in a roll on race.
The laws of physics say it aint so. Unless the C6 is modified?
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11-13-2018, 07:08 PM
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11-13-2018, 07:26 PM
#64
NP, happens to the best of us.
Did you notice at freeze frame 23 seconds in video the C7Z's brake lights are on including the 3rd brake light?
At freeze frame 48 seconds the brake lights are all off including the 3rd brake light. Yet they are still red!
I thought Z06 taillights where white?
Let me guess, he swapped out the tail lights and blacked out the fender badges to bait folks into roll racing a Z06.
LOL.
Did you notice at freeze frame 23 seconds in video the C7Z's brake lights are on including the 3rd brake light?
At freeze frame 48 seconds the brake lights are all off including the 3rd brake light. Yet they are still red!
I thought Z06 taillights where white?
Let me guess, he swapped out the tail lights and blacked out the fender badges to bait folks into roll racing a Z06.
LOL.
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11-13-2018, 08:28 PM
#65
Race Director
Look. I can post videos too.. bolton C6Z vs stock C7Z. Not same outcome as your race.
in your race the c6z given the hit each time. 1 second hit from roll takes alot to reel in near equal match. But it will.
c7z needs driver mod. Even with horrible driving the C7Z WITH stage IiI aero gaining anyway. Clear as day.
short shift 5800 2nd vid.
I mean we can go on and on. But that video is not representative of what a C7Z does. Not for the M7..
especially not an A8.
ps. If you thought it was an A8 C7Z you would be wrong. And he also had a passenger AND short shifted the hell out of it and it still caught the C6Z with ease. An A8 wpuld have destroyed the C6Z here.
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11-13-2018, 09:11 PM
#66
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https://youtu.be/0O_9yVFV1Wc
Look. I can post videos too.. bolton C6Z vs stock C7Z. Not same outcome as your race.
in your race the c6z given the hit each time. 1 second hit from roll takes alot to reel in near equal match. But it will.
c7z needs driver mod. Even with horrible driving the C7Z WITH stage IiI aero gaining anyway. Clear as day.
short shift 5800 2nd vid.
I mean we can go on and on. But that video is not representative of what a C7Z does. Not for the M7..
especially not an A8.
ps. If you thought it was an A8 C7Z you would be wrong. And he also had a passenger AND short shifted the hell out of it and it still caught the C6Z with ease. An A8 wpuld have destroyed the C6Z here.
https://youtu.be/nYexg_arsI8
Look. I can post videos too.. bolton C6Z vs stock C7Z. Not same outcome as your race.
in your race the c6z given the hit each time. 1 second hit from roll takes alot to reel in near equal match. But it will.
c7z needs driver mod. Even with horrible driving the C7Z WITH stage IiI aero gaining anyway. Clear as day.
short shift 5800 2nd vid.
I mean we can go on and on. But that video is not representative of what a C7Z does. Not for the M7..
especially not an A8.
ps. If you thought it was an A8 C7Z you would be wrong. And he also had a passenger AND short shifted the hell out of it and it still caught the C6Z with ease. An A8 wpuld have destroyed the C6Z here.
https://youtu.be/nYexg_arsI8
11-13-2018, 09:46 PM
#67
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Thread Starter
In order to sell the c7z to prospective owners the 650 hp number was the marketing beacon, but in these c7z cars in stock trim it doesn’t add up.
In the law of physics c6z06 to c6zr1 138 extra horsepower got you from 0-150 mph 8tenths of a second quicker.
In the c7z06 to c7zr1 105 horsepower extra gets you from 0-150mph 4 seconds quicker.
It seems at these higher hp numbers of the c7z’s and the additional aero of the c7zr1 it would take exponential increases in horsepower for that kind of improvement.
i think big brother has something going on in the tune of our c7z’s. Like in the old days of the 286 intel pc’s. You could buy the next generation to get improved performace or if you knew what you were doing you could open the pc up and flip a dip switch or 2 and have the improved performance.
it would be interesting to see a test of a 100percent stock a8 with a stock tune timed on a 0-150mph run. And then perform a custom tune and within an hour or 2 do the 0-150mph timed run. I bet a tune alone would get A minimum 2 seconds improvement in the car.
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11-13-2018, 10:29 PM
#68
Racer
The GS really held its own!
11-13-2018, 10:35 PM
#69
my thoughts exactly. It doesn’t make sense and doesn’t add up. In our minds as c7z owners we want to believe the c6z’s are modified. — I don’t think they are.c
In order to sell the c7z to prospective owners the 650 hp number was the marketing beacon, but in these c7z cars in stock trim it doesn’t add up.
In the law of physics c6z06 to c6zr1 138 extra horsepower got you from 0-150 mph 8tenths of a second quicker.
In the c7z06 to c7zr1 105 horsepower extra gets you from 0-150mph 4 seconds quicker.
It seems at these higher hp numbers of the c7z’s and the additional aero of the c7zr1 it would take exponential increases in horsepower for that kind of improvement.
i think big brother has something going on in the tune of our c7z’s. Like in the old days of the 286 intel pc’s. You could buy the next generation to get improved performace or if you knew what you were doing you could open the pc up and flip a dip switch or 2 and have the improved performance.
it would be interesting to see a test of a 100percent stock a8 with a stock tune timed on a 0-150mph run. And then perform a custom tune and within an hour or 2 do the 0-150mph timed run. I bet a tune alone would get A minimum 2 seconds improvement in the car.
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11-13-2018, 10:55 PM
#70
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I guess you like the technology that your c7z has that collects a whole bunch of data collection points on where You drive, how You drive to sell to insurance companies. and data on roads your car is being driven on , businesses you drive by and so gm can use that data to market to you and sell that data to businesses in the vicinity you drive by so those business can pander to you.
According to gm the data your car collects about you over a 3 year period can be sold for more then the price of the car itself.
This seems to be be an invasion of privacy and I don’t recall signing any contracts when I bought my c7 allowing them to collect and resell this data for their profit.
According to gm the data your car collects about you over a 3 year period can be sold for more then the price of the car itself.
This seems to be be an invasion of privacy and I don’t recall signing any contracts when I bought my c7 allowing them to collect and resell this data for their profit.
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11-13-2018, 11:10 PM
#71
Race Director
I know you hate your Z06. Why not go BACK to your C6Z? It's insane this self hating attitude toward a far superior model of the same car.
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11-14-2018, 04:48 AM
#73
I guess you like the technology that your c7z has that collects a whole bunch of data collection points on where You drive, how You drive to sell to insurance companies. and data on roads your car is being driven on , businesses you drive by and so gm can use that data to market to you and sell that data to businesses in the vicinity you drive by so those business can pander to you.
According to gm the data your car collects about you over a 3 year period can be sold for more then the price of the car itself.
This seems to be be an invasion of privacy and I don’t recall signing any contracts when I bought my c7 allowing them to collect and resell this data for their profit.
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11-14-2018, 05:14 AM
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I guess you like the technology that your c7z has that collects a whole bunch of data collection points on where You drive, how You drive to sell to insurance companies. and data on roads your car is being driven on , businesses you drive by and so gm can use that data to market to you and sell that data to businesses in the vicinity you drive by so those business can pander to you.
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11-14-2018, 06:30 AM
#75
What a poor way to represent the c7z.
I think the c7z owner was sandbagging big time. That or hes scared of his car. That's 75% of its straight line performance you saw from the c7z.
but a win is a win. It didnt prove much though.
I think the c7z owner was sandbagging big time. That or hes scared of his car. That's 75% of its straight line performance you saw from the c7z.
but a win is a win. It didnt prove much though.
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11-14-2018, 07:54 AM
#76
Drifting
I guess you like the technology that your c7z has that collects a whole bunch of data collection points on where You drive, how You drive to sell to insurance companies. and data on roads your car is being driven on , businesses you drive by and so gm can use that data to market to you and sell that data to businesses in the vicinity you drive by so those business can pander to you.
According to gm the data your car collects about you over a 3 year period can be sold for more then the price of the car itself.
This seems to be be an invasion of privacy and I don’t recall signing any contracts when I bought my c7 allowing them to collect and resell this data for their profit.
11-14-2018, 09:07 AM
#77
Drifting
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11-14-2018, 02:10 PM
#78
my thoughts exactly. It doesn’t make sense and doesn’t add up. In our minds as c7z owners we want to believe the c6z’s are modified. — I don’t think they are.c
In order to sell the c7z to prospective owners the 650 hp number was the marketing beacon, but in these c7z cars in stock trim it doesn’t add up.
In the law of physics c6z06 to c6zr1 138 extra horsepower got you from 0-150 mph 8tenths of a second quicker.
In the c7z06 to c7zr1 105 horsepower extra gets you from 0-150mph 4 seconds quicker.
It seems at these higher hp numbers of the c7z’s and the additional aero of the c7zr1 it would take exponential increases in horsepower for that kind of improvement.
i think big brother has something going on in the tune of our c7z’s. Like in the old days of the 286 intel pc’s. You could buy the next generation to get improved performace or if you knew what you were doing you could open the pc up and flip a dip switch or 2 and have the improved performance.
it would be interesting to see a test of a 100percent stock a8 with a stock tune timed on a 0-150mph run. And then perform a custom tune and within an hour or 2 do the 0-150mph timed run. I bet a tune alone would get A minimum 2 seconds improvement in the car.
That time has been debunked as flawed.
Look at the many 1 mile runs or 1.5 mile runs posted by several car clubs when they rent airports or close roads (ie the Texas mile).
Stock C7Z's run neck and neck with stock ZR1's.
So unless you are suggesting the C6 Z06 runs head to head with a C6 ZR1? Please give it a rest.
Last edited by dar02081961; 11-14-2018 at 02:11 PM.
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11-14-2018, 05:05 PM
#79
NP, happens to the best of us.
Did you notice at freeze frame 23 seconds in video the C7Z's brake lights are on including the 3rd brake light?
At freeze frame 48 seconds the brake lights are all off including the 3rd brake light. Yet they are still red!
I thought Z06 taillights where white?
Let me guess, he swapped out the tail lights and blacked out the fender badges to bait folks into roll racing a Z06.
LOL.
Did you notice at freeze frame 23 seconds in video the C7Z's brake lights are on including the 3rd brake light?
At freeze frame 48 seconds the brake lights are all off including the 3rd brake light. Yet they are still red!
I thought Z06 taillights where white?
Let me guess, he swapped out the tail lights and blacked out the fender badges to bait folks into roll racing a Z06.
LOL.
Still no explanation for the gold tag in the video and the white tag in the photos. Could be the same car, but maybe not.
So the benefit of the doubt goes to the Op.
Regardless, unless the C6Z is modified the C7Z is quicker.
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