To Z06 owners - what are your thoughts
02-03-2019, 11:05 AM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
To Z06 owners - what are your thoughts
Hey there, I've owned two C6 Corvettes (one Z06 and one ZR1). I am without a Corvette right now and would like to get into another one within the next year or so. I would appreciate the new technology and features and beautiful interior of the newer C7 so I think I may have made up my mind on a C7.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
02-03-2019, 11:12 AM
#2
Melting Slicks
Sounds like you're throwing your warranty away to go get 750hp and you won't drive it on a track. I suggest getting the cheapest Corvette you can get which would be a Stingray. Then add a procharger and supporting mods. Given your goals theirs no reason to pay for the suspension and styling upgrades of a GS or Z06. Have fun.
02-03-2019, 11:26 AM
#3
I will disagree with the above. Get a used Z06 and a few mods and you’ll be set. The motor is built for a blower. The GS isn’t no matter what many will say. If you want longevity get the Z. If you aren’t tracking the car you may realize you won’t need as much power as you think. The car is a beast stock. With a 17 and up M7 you won’t have heat issues on the street. The auto is fine on the street as well.
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02-03-2019, 11:41 AM
#4
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Sounds like you're throwing your warranty away to go get 750hp and you won't drive it on a track. I suggest getting the cheapest Corvette you can get which would be a Stingray. Then add a procharger and supporting mods. Given your goals theirs no reason to pay for the suspension and styling upgrades of a GS or Z06. Have fun.
02-03-2019, 11:42 AM
#5
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I will disagree with the above. Get a used Z06 and a few mods and you’ll be set. The motor is built for a blower. The GS isn’t no matter what many will say. If you want longevity get the Z. If you aren’t tracking the car you may realize you won’t need as much power as you think. The car is a beast stock. With a 17 and up M7 you won’t have heat issues on the street. The auto is fine on the street as well.
02-03-2019, 11:53 AM
#6
Drifting
Hey there, I've owned two C6 Corvettes (one Z06 and one ZR1). I am without a Corvette right now and would like to get into another one within the next year or so. I would appreciate the new technology and features and beautiful interior of the newer C7 so I think I may have made up my mind on a C7.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
Last edited by Parcival; 02-03-2019 at 11:53 AM.
02-03-2019, 12:13 PM
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Hey there, I've owned two C6 Corvettes (one Z06 and one ZR1). I am without a Corvette right now and would like to get into another one within the next year or so. I would appreciate the new technology and features and beautiful interior of the newer C7 so I think I may have made up my mind on a C7.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
There are no overheating issues on the street with either car. Overheating occurs on track with the A8s but most of the stuff is internet BS. I can run my M7 on track 4 full 20 minute sessions per day with ambient temps in the low 90s without any overheating. Over the last 3 seasons I haven't met an A8 owner at the track that was having a problem with over heating.
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
Can't say because the tremendous low end torque provided by the LT4 with the 1.7 charger is sufficient. Problem is most people can't handle that amount of low end power as they don't know how to use the gas pedal. Right now my 15 Z is still capable of passing almost everything on the track except some ZR1s and the gas pump. I have to fill the tank between track sessions or I wouldn't be able complete two 20 minute sessions in a row.
As for modding the car for the street what is the purpose if you are never going to open it up? Buy one and find out what a thrill it is to hold the throttle wide open for about 30 seconds. If you can't do that with a stock car you sure won't be able to do it with a modded one. Bragging rights can be achieved by adding stickers and lying.
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
There are no overheating issues on the street with either car. Overheating occurs on track with the A8s but most of the stuff is internet BS. I can run my M7 on track 4 full 20 minute sessions per day with ambient temps in the low 90s without any overheating. Over the last 3 seasons I haven't met an A8 owner at the track that was having a problem with over heating.
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
Can't say because the tremendous low end torque provided by the LT4 with the 1.7 charger is sufficient. Problem is most people can't handle that amount of low end power as they don't know how to use the gas pedal. Right now my 15 Z is still capable of passing almost everything on the track except some ZR1s and the gas pump. I have to fill the tank between track sessions or I wouldn't be able complete two 20 minute sessions in a row.
As for modding the car for the street what is the purpose if you are never going to open it up? Buy one and find out what a thrill it is to hold the throttle wide open for about 30 seconds. If you can't do that with a stock car you sure won't be able to do it with a modded one. Bragging rights can be achieved by adding stickers and lying.
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
02-03-2019, 12:19 PM
#8
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
02-03-2019, 12:26 PM
#9
Intermediate
I have a 2019 Z06 and live in the same town. I sent my Z to Cordes in phoenix and went with a smaller pulley, cold air intake, headers, expansion tank/catch can/thermostat, and a tune. The car now makes 620/680 at the wheels in summer temps. On our roads, you simply cannot use this amount of power regardless of the time of the year. I have had zero issues with any overheating even in the summer.
I would suggest the Z, no doubt about it. Plenty of people making the power level you are wanting with a Z without issues. If you plan on trying to put that power down, you definitely need to plan on going to a tire that doesn't need so much time to warm up especially on the street.
My .02 cents. Good luck!
I would suggest the Z, no doubt about it. Plenty of people making the power level you are wanting with a Z without issues. If you plan on trying to put that power down, you definitely need to plan on going to a tire that doesn't need so much time to warm up especially on the street.
My .02 cents. Good luck!
02-03-2019, 12:29 PM
#10
Le Mans Master
Hey there, I've owned two C6 Corvettes (one Z06 and one ZR1). I am without a Corvette right now and would like to get into another one within the next year or so. I would appreciate the new technology and features and beautiful interior of the newer C7 so I think I may have made up my mind on a C7.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
My dilemma is whether to get a Grand Sport or a Z06. I've always been about getting as much horsepower as possible - even if I can't realistically use all of it on the street. But here's the thing: the car will NEVER be tracked it will be strictly a weekend cruising car on the city streets. The Z06 seems like the obvious choice still but there are a few things I am hoping you guys can clarify for me:
1) If the car is strictly street driven (in manual tranny form) are there any overheating issues or was that whole mess more for the automatics that were seeing heavy track time? Does the overheating issue go up if I start modding the car, even though it'll still only be street driven?
2) Do any of you have issues with the small 1.7L blower and does it cause you any problems if you start modding more than just an exhaust and headers?
That is my only dilemma really. I want to go heavy on the mods and get somewhere in the 750rwhp range. Is that very realistic with the Z06 or would a better option be saving the money to purchase a Grand Sport and then modding that up to 750 or so?
I've heard of quite a few Z06 owners removing the stock blower to go with a Procharger - at that point I feel the Z06 is pointless and may as well have saved the money, purchased the GS and then gone with a Procharger anyways.
Any input would be appreciated. I'm mainly just wondering if any of you who have started modding your Z06s to the area of around 750rwhp are running into overheating issues, problems with the small blower or anything else and in hind sight would have chosen the GS instead.
the 1.7 supercharger does give good torque down low- but it peters out up top especially once the car is at full operating temperature.
Seats are great. Ac in the summer works well and heated in the winter is good too.
All the tech gadgetry in the dashboard is pretty worthless “in my opinion”. Unless your a tech geek that likes to full around with that sort of thing.
With all the torque down low the e-diff makes the car wiggy. Some swear by it for the track.
The car reminds me of a 2 door Cadillac.
as far as the looks of the c7z sometimes I think it looks good and sometimes it reminds me of this Seinfeld episode.
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 02-03-2019 at 12:33 PM.
02-03-2019, 01:38 PM
#11
Yes a different lid on the blower and an extra cooler in the M7. The auto didn’t have room. As said if you don’t track it you’ll have no hearing issues with either.
02-03-2019, 01:56 PM
#12
Drifting
the car won’t overheat on the street
the 1.7 supercharger does give good torque down low- but it peters out up top especially once the car is at full operating temperature.
Seats are great. Ac in the summer works well and heated in the winter is good too.
All the tech gadgetry in the dashboard is pretty worthless “in my opinion”. Unless your a tech geek that likes to full around with that sort of thing.
With all the torque down low the e-diff makes the car wiggy. Some swear by it for the track.
The car reminds me of a 2 door Cadillac.
as far as the looks of the c7z sometimes I think it looks good and sometimes it reminds me of this Seinfeld episode.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TFeUrC2gR30
itd be one thing to have one blow up or overheat in your hands... here you are b*tching abt the looks and the dash when the OP clearly has settled on the look... In most other threads u b*tch abt the speed vs a c6z. Srsly what gives. Your SO must love u!
To the OP, I owned ‘17 Gs A8 and own ‘17 z06 m7 and I looked at putting a blower on the Gs and a few light mods. I ended up going with z for mainly Street driving. It came down to a price/ convenience thing for me, living in Cali the z still stock at this point. If I had the time and energy (and the right network), I would undertake a quest like what Por-sha is doing in another thread but he is going for race specs (GS.R).
Last edited by Parcival; 02-03-2019 at 02:02 PM.
02-03-2019, 02:08 PM
#13
Le Mans Master
gizmo u r one of the worst ambassadors of the c7z who claims to own one.
itd be one thing to have one blow up or overheat in your hands... here you are b*tching abt the looks and the dash when the OP clearly has settled on the look... In most other threads u b*tch abt the speed vs a c6z. Srsly what gives. Your SO must love u!
To the OP, I owned ‘17 Gs A8 and own ‘17 z06 m7 and I looked at putting a blower on the Gs and a few light mods. I ended up going with z for mainly Street driving. It came down to a price/ convenience thing for me, living in Cali the z still stock at this point. If I had the time and energy (and the right network), I would undertake a quest like what Por-sha is doing in another thread but he is going for race specs (GS.R).
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 02-03-2019 at 02:09 PM.
02-03-2019, 02:11 PM
#14
Le Mans Master
Im a previous owner of a FBO C6ZR1, and believe you wont be dissapointed with a C7Z M7! My 15Z made 698WHP and 757WTQ with pulley, headers meth and tune. The 1.7L IS limited to make high HP numbers, but its SOOO response down low where you spend 90% of the time driving, so i think its a no brainer!!
02-03-2019, 03:42 PM
#16
Le Mans Master
tell the op your concerns about the e-diff and your experience first hand —
& Don’t sugar coat it.
Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 02-03-2019 at 03:44 PM.
02-03-2019, 04:23 PM
#17
I will disagree with the above. Get a used Z06 and a few mods and you’ll be set. The motor is built for a blower. The GS isn’t no matter what many will say. If you want longevity get the Z. If you aren’t tracking the car you may realize you won’t need as much power as you think. The car is a beast stock. With a 17 and up M7 you won’t have heat issues on the street. The auto is fine on the street as well.
I'll still never understand why some would go for a GS when for a couple grand more you can get a Z.
Stingray is a different story. If you don't care at all about performance.
02-03-2019, 08:01 PM
#18
Le Mans Master
well actually, the control module was the cause of the Ediff malfunction, but that i can tell, that event could have been much more ugly!! I know few dudes that had the same issue and had bad accident because of a deffective Ediff control, which is also know by GM and of course they wont do anything about it! Granted, i was in touring mode, supposelly doesnt happens in sport or track mode. I also know that even at spring mountain they figure out some i had Ediff issue!!
Last edited by timmyZ06; 02-03-2019 at 08:03 PM.
02-03-2019, 08:19 PM
#19
I have a 16 Z06, 3LZ, m7. Terrific car.
I don’t track and have no interest in that or any mods.
This is my fourth vette, two stingrays and two Z06s.
if I were buying today, I’d probably get the GS M7, it has the looks and plenty power for a street daily driver.
I don’t track and have no interest in that or any mods.
This is my fourth vette, two stingrays and two Z06s.
if I were buying today, I’d probably get the GS M7, it has the looks and plenty power for a street daily driver.
02-03-2019, 09:19 PM
#20
If you’re looking for that kind of power, I’d get the ZR1. A few intake and exhaust mods will get you over 750hp at the wheels and you can keep your warranty. I always remember “more mods more problems” when I get the itch to change something.