Road machine

A friend of mine recently bought a Tesla model 3. He let me drive it and it is very fast. We finally had a chance to race this past week, and it was quite interesting. My car is completely stock. the first run was from a roll of about 30 MPH....he got a bit of a jump but I caught him almost instantly and blew him away. The second run was from about 40....he again got the jump on me and I got a bit sideways so he got a little more distance on me but I closed and passed him within 1000 feet. The Tesla has instant full torque and all wheel drive so a stopped start would probably advantage him, but I am sure i would still beat him. He made some excuses about not full charge and what not, but he knew who was way faster. I do wish i had the autonomous drive mode especially for stop and go traffic but i like to drive when in all other instances. Teslas are no slouches and I can see owning one some day, but today is not that day.

SilverGhost

Ayrton Senna in a 1993 tv interview voicing his contempt on what the revolutionary Williams FW14 Formula 1 race car's electronic dampening, ABS and Traction control took away from the art of F1 driving.

Newb73

A $100,000 Z06 vs a $40,000 sedan? You are surprised that you blew him away?

Mr. Gizmo

Pretty impressive as the Model 3 is a 35k car - if I recall correctly.

It’s all wheel drive that makes the big difference.

Road machine

Well my Z06 was $72k and he paid $60k for the Tesla (it is the high performance version) but I was not surprised I blew him away.

He has the high performance version and said he paid $60k. I think they have come down in price....he got it just before the winter.

While I understand Aerton Senna's concerns for his career, I cannot see offering the general public a 650 Hp car without the nannies that can save one from killing himself the first time out in their new car. There is no way that we would have the performance we have today if there was nothing to keep the car safe on the road. The law suits would put the manufacturer out of business. As for autonomous driving.....we need something to solve the problem of distracted driving. I hate the fact that we will have to do this, as I love to drive, but there are just too many people that think driving is compatible with multi tasking, and unless you can change human behavior the only answer is to take the driver out of the picture. I would rather have every car be under autonomous control than have every driver texting while traveling 88 feet per second.

JJLAI724

I live in Milpitas, which is one town south of where the Tesla's are built. Many Tesla's have wanted to race me when the light turns green, I just tell ignore them. No way I can catch a Tesla off the line. Roll race is a different story.

Road machine

Really?? You think you could not catch them off the line??? I would think they get a good jump, but we can catch them pretty quick....No?

MHFontaine

Not a Z, but check this out...

Mr. Gizmo

There most likely is no difference between the performance and regular versions. There is a dip switch or program command that gets turned on for the 25k up charge. Lol!

Road machine

The performance model gets two motors while the regular version only gets one.

Big difference between a Z06 and a Stingray. In your video that SR was also very late on the light.

Here is a Challenger and Z06 against a Model 3.

https://insideevs.com/news/343433/wa...llenger-video/

JJLAI724

Off the line I'd need a lot of running space before catching a Tesla. A quarter mile would not be enough, and I'm not sure I'd be able to run down a P100 unless it were a few miles.

Mr. Gizmo

a Model 3 was challenging me when i was driving my c7Z06 last weekend -- btw "we have fondly nicknamed our z06 miss piggy"--- i really didnt know what it was or how quick they are and ignored him. -- Good thing I did, she would have had her nipples blown off.

OhhhApieceOfCandy

This just in, electric cars make instant torque. They're fast cars off the line but from a highway roll, where people normally get into the throttle, a comparably powered ICE car is always going to win. Tesla P90Ds trap low 120s in the quarter mile which is abysmal for a 691 horsepower car. Those are 500hp mustang numbers.

Pribilof

Go to 5:07 for the results. The P100D has 920 Ft-lb of torque (at the wheels) at basically 0 RPM with AWD. Good luck!

GS583

Electric motors have maximum torque at zero rpm so that plus the all wheel drive is why they are so impressive off the dead start line. If they can pull enough of a hole shot it is almost impossible to catch up. Also there are never any missed shifts unless some sort of failure occurs. It is their game for brute initial accelleration. If you are going to race one make it a half mile or longer.

Blue Curvette

I saw a website with torque curves for electric motors versus internal combustion engines in cars. The electric motor was exactly the opposite of an internal combustion engine. So as speed increases torque decreases. This likely is why I the Tesla would have a more difficult time in a roll race and does well off the line. Max torque is on the low rpm end...

JJLAI724

But a Tesla is a nice car, but not a "cool" car. That's the bottom line for me.

Ruderegime

Supposably they have horrible build quality, and then I guarantee that there top speed is governed way lower than a ZO6, but I don't have an actual cut off number.
Let's see how well they hold up years down the line.

GS583

Ultimately the batteries will prove to be the weak link in the chain. As they age, the capacity diminishes just like we see on our cell phones when they get a few years old. Also the heat and cold cycles autos are operated in will take a greater toll on battery life. The folks that have the money to buy a Tesla S will have no issue as they had enough income or available free funds to afford one in the first place but maybe what it will cost them to have all those battery packs recycled and replaced will cause them to dump the cars. The average schmo that buys a Tesla 3 and comes up against the replacement/recycle cost will be having a coronary.
Until such time as a superior battery is developed these cars will continue to be a novelty.

Blue Curvette

Top speed is governed at around 125 mph because of a few reasons. The strongest of which has to do with the batteries overheating when running that high and they use a refrigeration cycle to keep them cool...but it exceeds cooling capacity at 125 mph. Also...battery life really tanks at those speeds. Have a friend in Germany who said he reaches the governed speed often but needs to watch his battery life as it gets very short at high speeds...