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Old 06-14-2019, 09:41 PM
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I currently own a 2017 Z51 1LT M7. Factory ordered a Z06 2LZ M7 from Mike Furman a few weeks ago. Taking delivery tomorrow morning. Can't wait to drive her home. Really like what I'm seeing from the C8 but I can't deal with paddle shifters. This may be my last new Corvette unless they offer a manual again some day.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:03 PM
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Lots of luck I picked up mine last spring and love it. The M7 is spectacular especially top down. Send some pictures. I cant stand paddle shifters either, would not have picked up a Z06 without a stick.................
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Congrats on the new M7 Vert. Picked mine up from Mike Furman 3 weeks ago, he is great to deal with. Post some pics. I had a 2017 A8 Z06 and never liked the delay in the way the paddles shifted. The A8 was great in D, but in M anything less than WOT validated why many forum members call it a slush box. I tried but never got any enjoyment out of paddle shifting the A8 just cruising around. You will love the car. Here is mine waiting for me at Criswell a day or two before I picked it up.


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Congratulations on your Z06, you will love it, the M7 is a pleasure to drive, with no lift shift it and all that power it is a beast. Fully understand your not wanting to play pittle paddle.
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:14 AM
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You will never regret it the M7 Z. I have had mine for a little over 3 years & 30K miles, I never tire of the fun the car brings.
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Old 06-15-2019, 11:32 AM
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right back at you, its a great feeling!!


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Old 06-15-2019, 11:35 AM
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Wow. Congrats to all of you. Beautiful cars.

Can anyone one explain how “no lift shift” works ? I assume that means that you can leave the gas pedal on the floor when depressing the clutch to shift. What is it that the car does or does not do by having the NLS capability?
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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
Wow. Congrats to all of you. Beautiful cars.

Can anyone one explain how “no lift shift” works ? I assume that means that you can leave the gas pedal on the floor when depressing the clutch to shift. What is it that the car does or does not do by having the NLS capability?
You're close it's full throttle, no clutch involved, shift.

GM's no-lift shift, a feature offered in a handful of their performance cars, puts and end to such common sense. The name explains it perfectly. Under full throttle, you can keep the accelerator on the floor while you shift gears. For your launch, rev it up, dump the clutch, and floor the throttle.
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Originally Posted by Thunder22
You're close it's full throttle, no clutch involved, shift.

GM's no-lift shift, a feature offered in a handful of their performance cars, puts and end to such common sense. The name explains it perfectly. Under full throttle, you can keep the accelerator on the floor while you shift gears. For your launch, rev it up, dump the clutch, and floor the throttle.
I thought you used the clutch. Op should check the owners manual on this.

I would have active handling on when doing this technique. Otherwise it would be a real spinchter puckerer of a maneuver capable of winning a Darwin Award.

this link doesn’t show a c7. But I think it works the same way with the zl1 and c6zr1.


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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
I thought you used the clutch. Op should check the owners manual on this.

I would have active handling on when doing this technique. Otherwise it would be a real spinchter puckerer of a maneuver capable of winning a Darwin Award.

this link doesn’t show a c7. But I think it works the same way with the zl1 and c6zr1.
Launch control and no lift shift are 2 different things.

Launch control is a process by which you can launch the car from a dead stop.

No lift shift is upshifting while flooring the gas

Shifting without the clutch is this : https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...by-jason-unrau

EDIT: To explain launch control, no lift shift, and no clutch shifting.

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Originally Posted by Thunder22
Launch control and no lift shift are 2 different things.

Launch control is a process by which you can launch the car from a dead stop.

No lift shift is upshifting while flooring the gas and not using the clutch.
This video talks about both no lift shift and launch control. No lift shift requires stabbing the clutch.
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Originally Posted by Thunder22
Launch control and no lift shift are 2 different things.

Launch control is a process by which you can launch the car from a dead stop.

No lift shift is upshifting while flooring the gas and not using the clutch.
PLEASE READ: USE THE CLUTCH!!!!

The idea of "No Lift to Shift" is that you do not have to lift off the ACCELERATOR.

No Lift Shift (NLS) works in all driver modes and with rev match on or off. In other words, all the time. Many manufacturers seek to reduce the stress in their drivelines by sensing the conditions for a power shift and close the throttle regardless of what the driver is doing with the throttle pedal. The problem with closing the throttle is that when the next gear is selected and the clutch is re-engaged, the intake manifold has very low pressure. The throttle then has to re-open to fill it and feed the cylinders. Although this all happens very quickly, there is a delay for the engine to back up to full torque (and these effects are magnified in charged engines where intake manifold pressures are higher). Although I can't share the calibration details, the NLS algorithm looks for the conditions where the driver is requesting maximum performance and, within certain bounds, keeps the throttle fully open during the shift to keep the manifold pressure relatively high. In this way the engine is ready to provide full torque upon completion of the shift. The performance difference is easily measured in our straight line acceleration testing. And of course the Corvette is designed for and fully validated for this usage.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hift-work.html
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
This video talks about both no lift shift and launch control. No lift shift requires stabbing the clutch.
Ok, 3 things then My bad, I was thinking of the process described in this link: Shifting without using the clutch:

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...by-jason-unrau
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[QUOTE=distinctz06;1599588489]PLEASE READ: USE THE CLUTCH!!!!

The idea of "No Lift to Shift" is that you do not have to lift off the ACCELERATOR.

No Lift Shift (NLS) works in all driver modes and with rev match on or off. In other words, all the time. Many manufacturers seek to reduce the stress in their drivelines by sensing the conditions for a power shift and close the throttle regardless of what the driver is doing with the throttle pedal. The problem with closing the throttle is that when the next gear is selected and the clutch is re-engaged, the intake manifold has very low pressure. The throttle then has to re-open to fill it and feed the cylinders. Although this all happens very quickly, there is a delay for the engine to back up to full torque (and these effects are magnified in charged engines where intake manifold pressures are higher). Although I can't share the calibration details, the NLS algorithm looks for the conditions where the driver is requesting maximum performance and, within certain bounds, keeps the throttle fully open during the shift to keep the manifold pressure relatively high. In this way the engine is ready to provide full torque upon completion of the shift. The performance difference is easily measured in our straight line acceleration testing. And of course the Corvette is designed for and fully validated for this usage.


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hift-work.html[/QUOTE]


relax with the drama, i explained myself in the above post.
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Originally Posted by distinctz06
PLEASE READ: USE THE CLUTCH!!!!

The idea of "No Lift to Shift" is that you do not have to lift off the ACCELERATOR.

No Lift Shift (NLS) works in all driver modes and with rev match on or off. In other words, all the time. Many manufacturers seek to reduce the stress in their drivelines by sensing the conditions for a power shift and close the throttle regardless of what the driver is doing with the throttle pedal. The problem with closing the throttle is that when the next gear is selected and the clutch is re-engaged, the intake manifold has very low pressure. The throttle then has to re-open to fill it and feed the cylinders. Although this all happens very quickly, there is a delay for the engine to back up to full torque (and these effects are magnified in charged engines where intake manifold pressures are higher). Although I can't share the calibration details, the NLS algorithm looks for the conditions where the driver is requesting maximum performance and, within certain bounds, keeps the throttle fully open during the shift to keep the manifold pressure relatively high. In this way the engine is ready to provide full torque upon completion of the shift. The performance difference is easily measured in our straight line acceleration testing. And of course the Corvette is designed for and fully validated for this usage.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hift-work.html

Thanks distinct. What I would love to know:

what does the car do when it activates the NLS subroutine? Does it limit max engine speed to 5,000 RPM?
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Here's a couple of pics my wife took this morning. Drove it straight to my Xpel installer so only got around 8 or 9 miles on the odometer before handing over the keys. It won't be ready for pick up until the end of next week. Wrapping most of the car along with ceramic coating and tinted windows.

Mike Furman took very good care of me. Thanks, Mike!
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nice, congrats!
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:01 PM
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Nice looking ride. Congrats. Glad Mike took good care of you.
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Congrats to the OP! Beautiful car... I think a lot of people are waking up and realizing that the '19 Z06 is the last and best "affordable" FE Z car and the last of the M7 cars. I got my '19 M7 last Sept and have never regretted it - and I don't think you will either. I would have had to pay about $60k more for a ZR1 that the $76k I paid for my '19 2LZ M7 - that was not "affordable" to me.

I see more and more posts about people deciding to act quickly and order the last of the '19's. Sometimes people get too caught up in the supposed "next best thing" and overlook the best thing sitting right in front of them. JMO

Enjoy!
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agreed it is a spectacular car, i am at 2550 great miles
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