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#82
Melting Slicks
^^^ I'm well aware we can go back in time and find them. If we are going on the last two generations there will be no facelift. I don't expect the seventh gen to be long enough to require a facelift.
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#83
Burning Brakes
Doesn't look like any serious weight reduction, maybe even 40-50 lbs heavier. Enhanced versions of the C7, like this appears to be, really need more favorable fronalt mass reduction, until a mid-engine car is available.
#84
Instructor
if Im a betting man, I say Chevy shoots for 715-735 hp. They will change the body pieces, a different supercharger and cooling system, different rims, a special emblem and different stitching on the seats. Everything else will be the same. Its their cheapest route
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#85
^^^ This.
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#86
Pro
A member of this forum (Chet_LS3) is down at Spring Mountain right now and said there is something there testing and locked up in the garages that they won't let anyone see. "They are for sure testing something secret here. GM is here. Ron Fellow is here and a whole section we can't even access." "They said we would know something in weeks to come."
#87
^^^ Thanx for the info.
Seems like SM is becoming GM's Testing Ground West.
Seems like SM is becoming GM's Testing Ground West.
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#88
Le Mans Master
#89
Le Mans Master
I really don't think that's possible anymore. If they went 32V exotic setup they'd still need 7 litres to reach 600hp, and we're not going to be seeing any new "big displacement" engines any time soon, I don't think. Not with CAFE and emissions standards being what they are.
I think twin turbos are going to be the way eventually (see Ford Ecoboost). How far away that is for the Corvette it'd be pointless for me to guess.
Remember they tried and were unable to make the current Z a large displacement setup ala the Viper.
I think twin turbos are going to be the way eventually (see Ford Ecoboost). How far away that is for the Corvette it'd be pointless for me to guess.
Remember they tried and were unable to make the current Z a large displacement setup ala the Viper.
love to see a twin turbo dohc vette it's beyond time gm step up and build a motor like merc marine did. 750 hp ready to rock so it can be done.
But indulge me for a second, take the ecotec dohc head, and do a nice block and billet crank and build a dohc engine
GM already has the experience, and turbos
Please DO not make the mistake ford did and do a TT V6. Not that it couldn't work, but I'd like an under stressed dohc v8 at 800 hp which is both realistic and fun while still meeting emissions.
And while you are at it, throw a Big electric motor up front and built it much cheaper than an NSX (why, because YOU KNOW you can).
Keep the battery array very small (enough for 30 mile jaunts) and keep the weight down (lighter than now please).
THIS would be a world beater and make some waves
It's time GM build a supercar with some world class tech that they have had in the parts bins FOREVER.
Please, just do it.
#90
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What I find interesting is the great lengths Chevrolet goes to to "disguise" vehicles that they're road testing. If their test mules weren't 2-3 colors, didn't have wild graphics to disguise the body shape, and weren't partially covered, they'd attract much less attention.
#91
Team Owner
love to see a twin turbo dohc vette it's beyond time gm step up and build a motor like merc marine did. 750 hp ready to rock so it can be done.
But indulge me for a second, take the ecotec dohc head, and do a nice block and billet crank and build a dohc engine
GM already has the experience, and turbos
Please DO not make the mistake ford did and do a TT V6. Not that it couldn't work, but I'd like an under stressed dohc v8 at 800 hp which is both realistic and fun while still meeting emissions.
And while you are at it, throw a Big electric motor up front and built it much cheaper than an NSX (why, because YOU KNOW you can).
Keep the battery array very small (enough for 30 mile jaunts) and keep the weight down (lighter than now please).
THIS would be a world beater and make some waves
It's time GM build a supercar with some world class tech that they have had in the parts bins FOREVER.
Please, just do it.
But indulge me for a second, take the ecotec dohc head, and do a nice block and billet crank and build a dohc engine
GM already has the experience, and turbos
Please DO not make the mistake ford did and do a TT V6. Not that it couldn't work, but I'd like an under stressed dohc v8 at 800 hp which is both realistic and fun while still meeting emissions.
And while you are at it, throw a Big electric motor up front and built it much cheaper than an NSX (why, because YOU KNOW you can).
Keep the battery array very small (enough for 30 mile jaunts) and keep the weight down (lighter than now please).
THIS would be a world beater and make some waves
It's time GM build a supercar with some world class tech that they have had in the parts bins FOREVER.
Please, just do it.
Of course, one solution is for GM to copy Chrysler and offer, as an accessory, a trailer with the Corvette rear styling.
While it does serve the needs for a larger cargo space, it also has it's disadvantages, such as requiring two tandem parking spaces at scenic pull offs, motels, restaurants, etc.
The proposed mid-engine Vette will have a difficult time meeting the needs of those that require a decent amount of cargo space for a week or two of traveling, etc., and that could cause GM to lose some of the volume needed to make the Corvette profitable.
Throw in that huge electric motor you want and the needed batteries for your 30 mile jaunts(without using the ICE) that you want and there goes some of that cargo space, which has been a huge selling factor in Corvette sales.
Look at the sales figures since 1956(when optional high performance engines first became available), and you will see that very few people bought the highest horsepower engine available, or the optional items to make the Corvette into a "track" car. The bulk of sales has been for Corvettes that are not factory "hot rods". That's where the volume is that makes money for GM.
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#92
^^^^ Ahhh, the late, lamented Prowler....it deserved better.
IMO, it's the "WOW" factor of owning/driving one that is the key...of being "that guy" in the neighborhood who has one in his garage.
Not everyone buys a Vette for the pleasure of its speed...of course, this forum is all about those who DO.
Also, historically, budgetary and WAF considerations came into play during decisions to buy.
The proposed mid-engine Vette will have a difficult time meeting the needs of those that require a decent amount of cargo space for a week or two of traveling, etc., and that could cause GM to lose some of the volume needed to make the Corvette profitable.
cargo space, which has been a huge selling factor in Corvette sales.
cargo space, which has been a huge selling factor in Corvette sales.
Look at the sales figures since 1956(when optional high performance engines first became available), and you will see that very few people bought the highest horsepower engine available, or the optional items to make the Corvette into a "track" car. The bulk of sales has been for Corvettes that are not factory "hot rods". That's where the volume is that makes money for GM.
Also, historically, budgetary and WAF considerations came into play during decisions to buy.
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#93
Melting Slicks
I wish there was a trailer for my Z that could carry some tires and followed the car's lines like that.
#94
Instructor
don't think anyone has discussed this yet, but I get the feeling this thing is going to be freaking heavy. Current Z already at +3500 pounds. Add bigger front fascia, bigger chin spoiler, big rear spoiler, larger hood and probably larger/heavier supercharger, more intercoolers and plumbing, looks like maybe wider front wheels, and possibly a beefed up drivetrain
#95
Le Mans Master
I buy mine because I drive around I wanna be seen morons hang up and drive. When I drive I have a destination to get to and like driving as fast as I can without running over anyone.
If another car was as fast for the money I might buy it. I drive a 16 SS four door sedan doesn't look like much till you hit the go pedal and come up on some curves E39 BMW comes to mind.
z51vett
Doug
If another car was as fast for the money I might buy it. I drive a 16 SS four door sedan doesn't look like much till you hit the go pedal and come up on some curves E39 BMW comes to mind.
z51vett
Doug
#96
Melting Slicks
don't think anyone has discussed this yet, but I get the feeling this thing is going to be freaking heavy. Current Z already at +3500 pounds. Add bigger front fascia, bigger chin spoiler, big rear spoiler, larger hood and probably larger/heavier supercharger, more intercoolers and plumbing, looks like maybe wider front wheels, and possibly a beefed up drivetrain
#97
Instructor
^^^ Uhhh because physics cares...? There's a reason super cars and track oriented cars want to be as light and as balanced as possible
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#99
Instructor
sure. What topic do you want? Newtonian mechanics or maybe some Lagrangians/Hamiltonians? How about thermo or electrodymanics? Maybe you'd prefer quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, or quantum electrodynamics. Or you can just get weird with string theory. Its up to you. I know 'em all
#100
Melting Slicks
^^^ How about this. More power same weight car uquals faster car on the quarter mile track. Now I could get fancy and add the fact that you would probably need drag radials and know how to drive. I think you should be able to understand this though.
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