ZR1 and GT2 RS
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As much as I love the Corvette, this car will not do a 6:47 around the Ring. I'm still in awe that the Porsche did it... but this car just won't be fast enough on the straights, IMO. But I really really really hope they try
#22
new 991.2 GT3 offered with a “touring”option that eliminates the wing. Someone didn’t like it
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I do think it will beat the ACR at the ring though. The ACR crew reported TOO much downforce (and drag) for the type of track the Nurburgring is. The ZR1 appears to have balanced that better (40 mph higher top speed than the ACR!) It could definitely do a 6:56
#26
My friend have a very nice expensive 2015 GT3 with 15k miles and the car got his 3rd engine this summer on the warranty....
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skank (11-13-2017)
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Chevy didn't release the time but the German magazine SportAuto ran a verified 7:13.9 with a Z06 off the showroom floor. The only production cars that magazine has tested that are quicker are the AMG GTR, Gumpert Apollo, and 918 Spyder. So yes, I'll compare the Corvette to the 911.
Judging by the specs, the ZR1 will be very competitive with the GT2RS at a third of the price.
Judging by the specs, the ZR1 will be very competitive with the GT2RS at a third of the price.
Let the independent review put the ZR1 against the GT2 RS.
The 991 GT3 RS was slower than a 65k$ Grand Sport in every independent reviews on the racetrack...
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skank (11-13-2017)
#28
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It would be interesting putting the ZR1 up against the GT2RS. The Porsche is lighter, has nearly as much HP but a lot less torque and some high tech rear end tricks, the ZR1 has more tire and more aero. There is a video floating around of a new GT2RS hitting an indicated 210, and I'm guessing the ZR1 with the base aero could likely match that speed, with the big wing, probably not. The fact is, these two cars aren't really apples to apples, as the GT2RS is basically a RWD de-contented and lightened big HP track special and the ZR1 is a full content big HP lux sports car tuned for occasional track use, and from all accounts will cost less than half of what the Porsche does. Honestly, I'd love to have one of each in my garage, and I'm guessing there are a lot more that feel the same. Both are great cars that should be exercised on the track, not just used to impress at the next Cars and Coffee, then put back in the garage.
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skank (11-13-2017)
#29
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The Porsche is literally a Monster from outer space! ;)
Don't get me wrong, I bet this car has a sub 7 minute lap. But chopping 20 seconds off the Z06's ability is too tall an order without something more drastic than a wing and a 100 hp.
I do think it will beat the ACR at the ring though. The ACR crew reported TOO much downforce (and drag) for the type of track the Nurburgring is. The ZR1 appears to have balanced that better (40 mph higher top speed than the ACR!) It could definitely do a 6:56
I do think it will beat the ACR at the ring though. The ACR crew reported TOO much downforce (and drag) for the type of track the Nurburgring is. The ZR1 appears to have balanced that better (40 mph higher top speed than the ACR!) It could definitely do a 6:56
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Try 220 MPH!
It would be interesting putting the ZR1 up against the GT2RS. The Porsche is lighter, has nearly as much HP but a lot less torque and some high tech rear end tricks, the ZR1 has more tire and more aero. There is a video floating around of a new GT2RS hitting an indicated 210, and I'm guessing the ZR1 with the base aero could likely match that speed, with the big wing, probably not. The fact is, these two cars aren't really apples to apples, as the GT2RS is basically a RWD de-contented and lightened big HP track special and the ZR1 is a full content big HP lux sports car tuned for occasional track use, and from all accounts will cost less than half of what the Porsche does. Honestly, I'd love to have one of each in my garage, and I'm guessing there are a lot more that feel the same. Both are great cars that should be exercised on the track, not just used to impress at the next Cars and Coffee, then put back in the garage.
We decided 6:56 make sense right now for the ZR1. That would be a great showing being within 10.
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#31
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The Porsche is not unlike the Viper ACR, a thinly disguised race car with no creature comforts and a full cage. I could see the ZR1 breaking the 7:00 barrier by a few seconds, but to really challenge the Porsche it would probably need to drop at least 300lbs or more, maybe make a special track version like the GT2RS. GM does that, then let's go race.
#32
Drifting
Look at the Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, Ford GT & Mclaren boards...and you'll see what I mean. You don't see the haters posting there.
And with every new gen or model of Corvette, these boards are littered with haters posting about how their current car is better. They're simply justifying their inability to go out and buy the latest and greatest.
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#33
Drifting
The GT2RS is a highly engineered track monster...and it's highly unlikely the ZR1 will get close. That said, I will buy a ZR1. It's gorgeous and fast! It'll look great alongside my Verde Mantis Performante and my 911 Turbo S!
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#34
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Stock boost, yes...and stock tires as well. Not too hard to figure out. The Performante was only 5 seconds slower on the Ring @ 6.52 a year earlier, and it's an N/A car with less horsepower and less TQ, also on stock rubber.
The GT2RS is a highly engineered track monster...and it's highly unlikely the ZR1 will get close. That said, I will buy a ZR1. It's gorgeous and fast! It'll look great alongside my Verde Mantis Performante and my 911 Turbo S!
The GT2RS is a highly engineered track monster...and it's highly unlikely the ZR1 will get close. That said, I will buy a ZR1. It's gorgeous and fast! It'll look great alongside my Verde Mantis Performante and my 911 Turbo S!
#35
Only real difference is Porsche gave them new engines while Chevy still denies the Z06 will overheat at the track.Chevy has done NOTHING to admit the scammed all of us.
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#36
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Don't get me wrong, I bet this car has a sub 7 minute lap. But chopping 20 seconds off the Z06's ability is too tall an order without something more drastic than a wing and a 100 hp.
I do think it will beat the ACR at the ring though. The ACR crew reported TOO much downforce (and drag) for the type of track the Nurburgring is. The ZR1 appears to have balanced that better (40 mph higher top speed than the ACR!) It could definitely do a 6:56
I do think it will beat the ACR at the ring though. The ACR crew reported TOO much downforce (and drag) for the type of track the Nurburgring is. The ZR1 appears to have balanced that better (40 mph higher top speed than the ACR!) It could definitely do a 6:56
#37
Safety Car
At least when Porsche had engine issues with the then new GT3 they recalled it....
I wonder if all this will play in the back of some minds
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furiousox (11-14-2017)
#38
Melting Slicks
Talking to a salesman at Porsche who told me the dealers were getting 500k over sticker for the new GT2RS and they were gone. So unless your on the 918 list you didn't get one. So it's really 6-7x more.
#39
Le Mans Master
lol 500k over sticker? So a mark up higher than the cost of the car itself? Are the 918's selling for more than twice what owners paid? I haven't really been watching the market.