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Old 11-15-2017, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
3524 Heaviest Z06 is 3 lz Z06 vs 3560 lightest ZR1 weight.

My Z06 weighs less than 3450 lighten with mods and weighted 3450 bone stock it is a 1 lZ.
IMHO
They are using some smoke and mirrors I know the weight is important!
A 3LZ Z06 definitely weighs more than 3524 (not by that much). I'm 99% sure that number is for a 1LZ car. I believe other members have weighed their 3LZ cars with a full tank of fuel and it came out to around 3560+.
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
A 3LZ Z06 definitely weighs more than 3524 (not by that much). I'm 99% sure that number is for a 1LZ car. I believe other members have weighed their 3LZ cars with a full tank of fuel and it came out to around 3560+.
Several in this thread posting lighter weights. So your now saying they weight the same?
Better check that because that doesn't add up. 100 percent sure here that is not the 1 lz weight!
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Originally Posted by jvp
The approximate 36lb gain is accurate. Certainly more accurate than the 140lb number. How they did it will be revealed soon(ish).
I think they are comparing the ZR1 to a full weight Z06 3LZ Stage 3.

The Z06 1lz base weighs less than the weight GM is using!
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
Bumping this, but today Motor Trend released an article titled "2019 Chevy Corvette ZR1 by the Numbers" and it details a good chunk of the technical aspects of the car. In the article, the weight is listed at 3560 (which is pretty much dead even with the Z06) and explains that the car uses the most carbon fiber out of any Chevy to date.

It's pretty vague, but that's good news to hear. The car weighs nearly the same as Z06, except it makes more power, has better cooling, and more advanced aero. Should be an absolute monster!

Here's the article link if anyone is interested in reading it:
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-...y-the-numbers/
It weighs a minimum of 36 pounds over the heaviest Z06 (3524) which is around
70 pounds heavier than the 1lz. For I'm sure the 1lz is around the 3450
mark it is missing a subwoofer and amp and mounting.
Seats heaters and coolers dash switches and wiring.
Same with mirror switches and wires all adds up I'm sure I missed things as well!
Actually the 2017 Z06 1LZ weighs slightly more than the 2015 1lz.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
I think they are comparing the ZR1 to a full weight Z06 3LZ Stage 3.
And I told you in another thread to stop posting your garbage. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, here.

More info about the mass (and other aspects) of the car will be revealed at the LA show.
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My 2015 3LZ M7 weighed 3556 with a full tank of gas.
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Originally Posted by jvp
And I told you in another thread to stop posting your garbage. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, here.

More info about the mass (and other aspects) of the car will be revealed at the LA show.
Don't bother posting to me while being rude. I didn't see anything in another thread! I also support the vendors and dealers around here more then you ever will and every member deserves respect. I wouldn't consider you any type of expert that's for sure. I'll wait to see more!

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Originally Posted by jvp
And I told you in another thread to stop posting your garbage. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, here.

More info about the mass (and other aspects) of the car will be revealed at the LA show.
On a different note....do you know if they are going to show the ZR1 convertible at L.A.?
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
I wouldn't consider you any type of expert that's for sure.
One of us here has multiple contacts within the Corvette engineering team. The other of us? Lots of money and a loose keyboard. Which one should folks pay more attention to?
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
On a different note....do you know if they are going to show the ZR1 convertible at L.A.?
I haven't heard about the convertible. They may only have the one show car right now. I'm not sure.
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Cant wait to see it in Person at the LA Auto Show in a few weeks. Very excited.

The nominal weight gain is pretty outstanding and fills me with optimism for the first time with the C7 platform.
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Weight of the new ZR1 is very disappointing. About as bad as the cooling deficiencies of the C7 Z06.
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Originally Posted by tobaccokid
Weight of the new ZR1 is very disappointing. About as bad as the cooling deficiencies of the C7 Z06.
It's heavy, but it is nowhere near as bad as it could have been. They did a great job keeping the weight as low as they could and I am grateful for it. The car still needs to be street legal and GM desired to maintain certain conveniences in order to appeal to a larger crowd (smart of them). This keeps the brand healthy and alive and not dead like the Viper who catered to a very limited market. 3500-3600lbs is still easily manageable with 755 hp and there are ways to shed weight easily if so desired and inclined (remove passenger seat, lighter wheels, lighter battery etc). I'm not suggesting you need to do this, but let's not act like it is difficult if dropping some weight is extremely important to you (for example you are competing in Time Trials). Have you ever been to a racetrack? Guys will strip their cars all the time to reduce weight if they desire. Simple procedure (up to a point).
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yah, and 'your wife has always had that dress'. And 'you've always had that gun, it must have been in the safe which is why your wife doesn't remember it'.
That is good stuff.... Funny! 😉
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Originally Posted by tobaccokid
Weight of the new ZR1 is very disappointing.
105 more horsepower and 75 more torques for only 36 more pounds than the Z06 is ... disappointing. Tough room.
About as bad as the cooling deficiencies of the C7 Z06.
My Z06 vert has never come close to overheating in 51,000 miles. How do you get your Z06 to overheat?
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If C7 ZR1 US Curb is confirmed at 3524 as per web site then it stacks rather well with comparable GT type 2 seaters in the 500HP plus category considering power or power/Weight

GT Cars curb weight
US Curb (MNFR Claim) Base model US HP (MNFR Claim)
AMG GTC 3660 550
Audi R8 3737 540
911 Turbo S Expkg 3528 607
F488 GTB 3405 598
F812 3620 788
F-TYPE SVR AWD 3758 575
Lambo Huracan LP-4 3399 602

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Originally Posted by Telepierre
If C7 ZR1 US Curb is confirmed at 3524 as per web site then it stacks rather well with comparable GT type 2 seaters in the 500HP plus category considering power or power/Weight

GT Cars curb weight
US Curb (MNFR Claim) Base model US HP (MNFR Claim)
AMG GTC 3660 550
Audi R8 3737 540
911 Turbo S Expkg 3528 607
F488 GTB 3405 598
F812 3620 788
F-TYPE SVR AWD 3758 575
Lambo Huracan LP-4 3399 602

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The AMG GT C is not the "hot item", as is the 2017 ZR1. The 2015 Z06 has a curb weight of 3524 and I believe that the 2019 ZR1 will have a curb weight of around 3580-3600 pounds

The AMG GT R is the "hot item" and has a curb weight of 3428 pounds with 577 HP, not 3660 with 550 HP. I bet that AMG has a little more "unleased" horsepower in their 4L TT V8 than a measly 577. Maybe a "Black" series like they did with the previous generation????????

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The AMG GT C is not the "hot item", as is the 2017 ZR1. The 2015 Z06 has a curb weight of 3524 and I believe that the 2019 ZR1 will have a curb weight of around 3580-3600 pounds

The AMG GT R is the "hot item" and has a curb weight of 3428 pounds with 577 HP, not 3660 with 550 HP. I bet that AMG has a little more "unleased" horsepower in their 4L TT V8 than a measly 577. Maybe a "Black" series like they did with the previous generation????????
Motortrend weighed the AMG GT R at 3680.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/merce...t-drivers-car/
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Originally Posted by turbo8765
Motortrend weighed the AMG GT R at 3680.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/merce...t-drivers-car/
Don't mind Joe. He tends to spin anything C7 related negatively.
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Originally Posted by Kappa
Don't mind Joe. He tends to spin anything C7 related negatively.
Mercedes-Benz press release dated January 9, 2017, page 3.

Curb weights.

AMG GT at 3,395 pounds

AMG GT roadster at 3,516 pounds

AMG GT S at 3,461 pounds

AMG GT C at 3,583 pounds

AMG GT C roadster at 3,660 pounds

AMG GT R at 3,428 pounds

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...rcedes-AMG.pdf

If you care to dispute the curb weights I posted, then provide a link to an official Mercedes-Benz document that shows otherwise.

I did not make a single derogatory remark about the C7. I just posted legitimate facts about the AMG GTR's weight. I also mentioned the possibility of a AMG "Black" series to take on any cars including the ZR1.

"The boss of Mercedes-AMG, Tobias Moers, has confirmed that an AMG GT R Black Series is in the works and that it’ll be focused on track performance.

Speaking to Motoring at the Frankfurt Motor Show, Moers said the Black Series won’t arrive until near the end of the AMG GT’s lifecycle so is still a few years away. Even still, the automaker has lofty ambitions for the car.

“The GT R is still very competitive and is doing quite well [but] when we do a Black Series it’s going to happen in the GT family. The GT R for sure chassis-wise is capable of more power. So yes, Black Series should always have a little bit more power but it’s not all about horsepower — it’s all about the handling, the performance on the track,” he confirmed.

“Yes, we can do more. GT R is less weight than GT S so yes, we’re working on that. For Black Series it will be mandatory to reduce weight.”

In recent months, a number of mysterious GT R prototypes have been spied testing at the Nurburgring, apparently in Black Series guise.

At this early stage, it seems inevitable that AMG will increase power from the vehicle’s 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 to well over 600 hp. Numerous aerodynamic modifications will also distinguish the Black Series from the rest of the GT family."

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"Mercedes-AMG is getting ready to take on the impressive Porsche 911 GT2 RS for the title of the fastest production car to lap the Nurburgring with a range-topping version of the GT coupe: the GT R Black Series.

The GT R Black Series was confirmed by AMG's head honcho, Tobias Moers, who said that it will arrive on the market close to the end of the GT's life-cycle. Reports speak of the Black Series using an improved version of the 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8, which should produce in excess of 600hp.

Prototypes of the supercar have been spied testing on the Nordschleife for a few good months now, trying to hide their visual updates over the regular GT R, with the same applying to the car seen here."

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/09/amg...ll-be-all.html

Oh, and keep your personal attacks to yourself.

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