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Hey, I don’t like the canards which look like plastic “snow shovels” jammed into the front bumper of the Zl1 1LE. But to call the car a ricer is missing the point. That car isn't for your boulevard cruising needs. Those things serve an important purpose. Same with the zr1, it serves a purpose if you use it on the track. With many trim options to choose from, buy the vette that suits your needs.
I understand it has a function on the ZR1, but it is still the most ghastly thing I have ever seen on a stock Corvette. If you need it, great, but I am at a loss why anyone would want to put it on a base car.
But different strokes for different folks.
Originally Posted by AlaJoe
I agree I think it looks like something a teenager or early 20 person would put on a Honda Civic. I can not help but think of this photo every time I see it.
I agree I think it looks like something a teenager or early 20 person would put on a Honda Civic. I can not help but think of this photo every time I see it.
Used for tracking or not, the ZR-1 wing on any C7 will look kicka$$ and could actually serve a purpose if necessary. To compare a spoiler slapped on a Civic to the one off a ZR-1, which GM dumped God knows how much cash & R&D into is absurd.
Would you consider ACRs, Porsche GTs, Lambos etc. as looking like rice too?
I like both the wings available on the ZR1. I would get that tame one for sure if I wasn't going to probably buy the ZR1 when it is available this spring. I never did like the looks of the current spoilers for the C7. My wife claims I have the mind of a 16 year old anyway, so the takes care of that. Wish I had the body.
LOL. I mean REALLY LOL. Amazing that someone with a hood liner as shown in your Avatar and below
would have the *****/audacity to call a functional aero element "ricer and UGLY". You can't make this **** up.
The money I spent on this ZO6!!!! I'm gonna put whatever I want on it and I couldn't care less what any so called purist think. Express yourself however you want you worked hard for the chance.
People who never raced or track cars will call anything rice, even functionnal aero bits.
On my former track car, a lotus Elise, adding functionnal splitter and wing and nothing more lowered my lap times by 4sec on a ~2min track. It's huge.
Functionnal aero bits on a 750hp top of the line Corvette is far from rice, it's actually brilliant and probably adds a bunch of safety margin on a car capable of hitting 200mph.
The wicker on Z06, though some might think looks better (or less rice), is an innefficient aero device that creates low downforce and high drag. Aerofoil is the way to go. I wish my c6 ZR1 had downforce.
I believe that youtuber Streetspeed717 installed a similair wing to his Z06 and then took it back off. Not sure where he got it from I think it was carbon fiber but I have no idea how secure it was, meaning, I doubt very seriously it was anchored to his frame. For the record I thought it looked pretty good on his car, though I don't like his wraps.
People who never raced or track cars will call anything rice, even functionnal aero bits.
On my former track car, a lotus Elise, adding functionnal splitter and wing and nothing more lowered my lap times by 4sec on a ~2min track. It's huge.
Functionnal aero bits on a 750hp top of the line Corvette is far from rice, it's actually brilliant and probably adds a bunch of safety margin on a car capable of hitting 200mph.
The wicker on Z06, though some might think looks better (or less rice), is an innefficient aero device that creates low downforce and high drag. Aerofoil is the way to go. I wish my c6 ZR1 had downforce.
New ZR1 wing, (both small and large) will they attach to other corvettes)
So I don't know much about the part yet as I don't know what its part number is, but it looks like that it is attached to a "lower wing" which looks like a mini Z51 spoiler.
The question is, how much further down does it go, and could one remove a Z51/Z06 spoiler and attach it.
Granted I don't need the down force, and the wing has to be ridiculously expensive, but I like the look of the smaller wing.
As noted here, it would require modifications as the wing is supported by some form of support attached to the frame. Without it that poor rear bumper will warp. How bad and at what speeds? Who knows.
The other issue is that with that much down force added to the rear and no changes up front, you are going to change the dynamics of how your car handles and steers. And not in a good way. It has the potential to cause massive understeer, and I am not sure how the cars suspension will react to the changes (especially without knowing which model you have).
Most of the part numbers are in the system, but there is no pricing or information available yet. I will keep checking the system to see when price/availability is shown and let everybody know by posting in this thread.
GM shows the bracket for behind the rear fascia, two mounting kits (uprights) and the carbon fiber wing as the 4 main items. Along with a few part numbers for bolts and misc items, it looks like a straight forward deal.
The only thing I haven't found listed yet is the rear fascia. I assume it will be different due to the slots cut out for the uprights.
Interesting fact though... While imputing VIN's, I found that GM has built 58 ZR1's so far and the majority of them have the ZTK package.
Most of the part numbers are in the system, but there is no pricing or information available yet...
GM shows the bracket for behind the rear fascia, two mounting kits (uprights) and the carbon fiber wing as the 4 main items. Along with a few part numbers for bolts and misc items, it looks like a straight forward deal...
Thanks, Rich!!
I'm interested in getting the ZTK, but for high-speed events or tracks I'd like to be able to swap on the low wing for a little less drag.
Does it look like swapping from the big/high wing to the low wing will be easy to do?
The only ZR1 I've seen in person was a ZTK big wing version, but it looked like the uprights under the wing have a flat mount that is just bolted to something that was sticking up through the spoiler. Pictures I've seen of the low wing show that it has the exact same type of flat mount. And the long uprights on the big wing and the short ones on the low wing look like they're the same distance apart and should mount onto the same things that are coming up out of the spoiler.
Below are pictures of how the big wing appears to be mounted onto whatever comes up from the frame and through the spoiler.
Bottom line - do you think the wings will be able to be swapped by unbolting those 4 bolts that hold each of the uprights to whatever looks like it must stick up through the spoiler and bolting the other wing on???
I'm interested in getting the ZTK, but for high-speed events or tracks I'd like to be able to swap on the low wing for a little less drag.
Does it look like swapping from the big/high wing to the low wing will be easy to do?
The only ZR1 I've seen in person was a ZTK big wing version, but it looked like the uprights under the wing have a flat mount that is just bolted to something that was sticking up through the spoiler. Pictures I've seen of the low wing show that it has the exact same type of flat mount. And the long uprights on the big wing and the short ones on the low wing look like they're the same distance apart and should mount onto the same things that are coming up out of the spoiler.
Below are pictures of how the big wing appears to be mounted onto whatever comes up from the frame and through the spoiler.
Bottom line - do you think the wings will be able to be swapped by unbolting those 4 bolts that hold each of the uprights to whatever looks like it must stick up through the spoiler and bolting the other wing on???
TIA
Originally Posted by Poor-sha
Along those lines, do the brackets and supports under the rear fascia look the same for high and low wing?
Yes, all of the parts behind the bumper and the two flat brackets on the outside of the bumper are the same part numbers. The low wing version shows the wing bolting directly to those flat brackets and the high wing (ZTK package) shows the uprights for the wing bolting directly to those flat brackets.
My assumption is that it will only require removing the 8 bolts (4 on each side) that hold the uprights in place, removing the high wing/uprights as an assembly and simply bolting the small wing in place using the same 8 bolts.
Most of the part numbers are in the system, but there is no pricing or information available yet. I will keep checking the system to see when price/availability is shown and let everybody know by posting in this thread.
11-14-2017, 01:37 PM
Bingo.
RICH
